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by rok.vidmar＠gmail.com

Cool. Area 3 is up according to MIM. Pretty... $ ncp sho act are Active Area Volatile Summary as of 21-DEC-2011 00:18:59 Area State Circuit Next node to area 1 reachable TCP-0-1 8.400 (GORVAX) 3 reachable 3.171 (NUK1C) 4 reachable TCP-0-1 8.400 (GORVAX) 6 reachable TCP-0-1 8.400 (GORVAX) 8 reachable TCP-0-1 8.400 (GORVAX) 11 reachable TCP-0-1 8.400 (GORVAX) 19 reachable TCP-0-1 8.400 (GORVAX) 20 reachable TCP-0-1 8.400 (GORVAX) 33 reachable TCP-0-1 8.400 (GORVAX) 42 reachable TCP-0-1 8.400 (GORVAX) from my side. Tunnel to 69.21.253.230 on and -starting; traceroute gets to 19 h69-21-253-154.wltonh.dedicated.static.tds.net (69.21.253.154) 127 ms 129 ms 127 ms 20 * * * -- Regards, Rok

13 years, 10 months

Multinet Tunnel Links defined

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2011-12-20 22:34, Steve Davidson wrote: I have defined (or redefined) tunnels for areas 3 and 6 for both GORVAX:: and SG1::. These are effective immediately. Enjoy! Cool. Area 3 is up according to MIM. Pretty... .ncp sho act are Active areas summary as of 20-DEC-11 23:42:41 Next Area State Circuit Node 1 Reachable 1.13 (MIM) 3 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1) 4 Reachable UNA-0 4.249 (SLAVE) 6 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1) 8 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1) 11 Reachable UNA-0 11.2 (MAISA) 19 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1) 20 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1) 33 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1) 42 Reachable UNA-0 42.1 (CANADA) . Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

13 years, 10 months

Integrating with the Italian network.

by jeep＠scshome.net

I'll take care of this... -Steve ________________________________ From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Sampsa Sent: Tue 12/20/2011 11:48 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Integrating with the Italian network. Steve, I'm gone until the 29th, can you set this up? I'll be back then. Sampsa On 20 Dec 2011, at 14:00, Steve Davidson wrote: The primary hubs for Multinet Tunnels are: GORVAX:: (UK) SG1:: (US) GORVAX:: is closer to you then SG1::. I would start there. Contact Sampsa. If he can not handle it then you may connect to SG1:: - just send me your IP address. Both of these networks also make use of the bridge to minimize hops. -Steve ________________________________ From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Rok Vidmar Sent: Tue 12/20/2011 06:47 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: Re: [HECnet] Integrating with the Italian network. Isn't someone using area 3 on HECnet already? I think that was Chrissie, who offered to move away. ... Which she did and I am thankful for that. How do you mean by "via TCP/IP"? I can easily create a text file with the node names and numbers, if you want to. And email it to my address? Yes, please. Now, which addresses do I make tunnel to? -- Regards, Rok <winmail.dat>

13 years, 10 months

Integrating with the Italian network.

by sampsa＠mac.com

Steve, I'm gone until the 29th, can you set this up? I'll be back then. Sampsa On 20 Dec 2011, at 14:00, Steve Davidson wrote: The primary hubs for Multinet Tunnels are: GORVAX:: (UK) SG1:: (US) GORVAX:: is closer to you then SG1::. I would start there. Contact Sampsa. If he can not handle it then you may connect to SG1:: - just send me your IP address. Both of these networks also make use of the bridge to minimize hops. -Steve ________________________________ From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Rok Vidmar Sent: Tue 12/20/2011 06:47 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: Re: [HECnet] Integrating with the Italian network. Isn't someone using area 3 on HECnet already? I think that was Chrissie, who offered to move away. ... Which she did and I am thankful for that. How do you mean by "via TCP/IP"? I can easily create a text file with the node names and numbers, if you want to. And email it to my address? Yes, please. Now, which addresses do I make tunnel to? -- Regards, Rok <winmail.dat>

13 years, 10 months

Integrating with the Italian network.

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2011-12-20 17:14, Steve Davidson wrote: Johnny, I have tried to connect to MIM::'s DTR database but I get sync errors. When you are generating the NODENAMES.* files for MIM::[DECNET] could you execute the following as part of your procedures? And on MIM:: 17:09:57 Task "DDM.0 " terminated on processor "A" SST abort. Bad stack R0=000006 R1=000043 R2=000026 R3=000026 R4=000050 R5=000001 SP=177764 PC=032720 PS=170000 Guess a bug or something, somewhere... That sucks. :-( DTR READY HECNET FIND HECNET SORT BY AREA,ADDRESS FOR CURRENT PRINT NODE_ADDRESS,NODE_NAME ON DU4:[DECNET]NODENAMES.DAT You could do that yourself, though, on MIM... Not as convenient as using DTR remotely over DECnet but anyway... You could even submit a batch job on MIM to do this for you. You even have an account... But anyway, as I run through some stuff every time I change the contents anyway, I can just as well add this to my makefile. Hang on a second... By the way, let me know if you want any nifty formatting done to the file... Johnny Thanks. -Steve ________________________________ From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Johnny Billquist Sent: Tue 12/20/2011 08:52 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Integrating with the Italian network. FYI: The commands to get the list in Datatrieve: READY HECNET FIND HECNET SORT BY AREA,ADDRESS FOR CURRENT PRINT NODE_ADDRESS,NODE_NAME Obviously, you can modify the print statement to get it in any format and form, along with additional information, if you want to. For DTR on VMS, the first line should be: READY HECNET ON MIM:: (or atleast I think so), while on RSX, you should use REMDTR.TSK to access DTR on another node. Johnny On 2011-12-20 14:47, Johnny Billquist wrote: Do you have Datatrieve on whatever machine you are running NETUPDATE.COM? Johnny On 2011-12-20 14:00, Steve Davidson wrote: Johnny, Can you make this list available to MIM::[DECNET] as NODENAMES.DAT? I am working on the new version of NETUPDATE.COM that requires information in this format. The current version does not work well with clusters in certain cases. A list that is ordered by<area>.<node> is perfect for the new routine. Thanks. -Steve ________________________________ From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Johnny Billquist Sent: Tue 12/20/2011 07:50 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Integrating with the Italian network. On 2011-12-20 12:47, Rok Vidmar wrote: Isn't someone using area 3 on HECnet already? I think that was Chrissie, who offered to move away. ... Which she did and I am thankful for that. We're making progress? :-) How do you mean by "via TCP/IP"? I can easily create a text file with the node names and numbers, if you want to. And email it to my address? Yes, please. NODE NODE ADDRESS NAME 1.1 MAGICA 1.2 ERNIE 1.3 FNATTE 1.4 GOBLIN 1.5 ZEKE 1.6 GNOME 1.7 BJARNE 1.8 KRILLE 1.9 TEMPO 1.10 SIGGE 1.11 ROCKY 1.12 PONY 1.13 MIM 1.14 TINA 1.15 PONDUS 1.16 GNAT 1.17 JOSSE 1.18 PAMINA 1.19 BEA 1.42 BIGBOA 1.100 FLETCH 1.200 PLINTH 1.201 CRISPS 1.202 NIPPER 1.300 CTAKAH 1.301 CTEPBA 1.302 XPEH 1.303 BIGSYS 1.350 ERSATZ 2.1 LEGATO 2.2 POCO 2.4 MEZZO 2.6 LARGO 2.7 CODA 2.9 DIVISI 2.10 ADAGIO 2.11 LENTO 2.12 JENSEN 2.13 GNOCCI 2.14 MULTIA 2.15 PAVANE 2.16 SKETTI 2.17 CHARON 2.150 LOKI 2.201 SELENE 3.2 JELTZ 3.10 ARTHUR 3.30 MARSHA 3.31 TRISHA 3.32 FORD 3.34 ROOSTA 3.35 ZARQON 3.55 ZAPHOD 3.60 FENTIB 4.1 B7 4.2 HALO 4.247 MINERV 4.248 SIMVAX 4.249 SLAVE 4.250 ORAC 4.251 ZX6000 4.252 NODE3 4.253 NODE2 4.254 ZEN 4.255 X60 4.256 BUBBLE 4.257 ELLEN 4.258 TIGER 4.259 ALEPH 5.10 MICRO1 5.12 MICRO2 5.14 VAX4 5.20 VAX6 5.21 VAX7 5.24 MICRO4 6.1 STAR69 6.2 QUIGON 6.10 COWBOX 8.244 RESCUE 8.400 GORVAX 8.401 CHIMPY 8.402 CHIMP 8.403 RHESUS 8.404 SAMDEV 8.405 ARIVAX 8.408 VAXPLS 8.410 FIDOGW 8.414 SOLAR 8.415 LUNAR 8.430 LEMUR 8.500 PYFFLE 8.700 RAZZLE 8.800 BONZO 8.808 DELLVX 8.900 SMDEV0 8.901 SMDEV1 8.902 SMDEV2 8.903 SMDEV3 10.1 SHARK 10.2 SNAKE 11.1 VAXSYS 11.2 MAISA 11.3 OLLIE 11.4 SORKKA 11.5 VS3K1 11.6 VSVLC 11.7 HAWK 11.8 EAGLE 11.9 JYLKM5 11.10 VS2K1 11.11 VS4K5 11.12 VS2K3 11.13 VS2K4 11.14 UGLY 11.15 CUTE 11.16 MOPO 11.17 ROMU 11.18 VS3K2 11.20 PAKVXT 11.100 DS20 11.101 AXPSYS 11.102 ALPHA 11.103 GAMMA 11.104 DELTA 11.105 BETA 11.1023 A11RTR 19.4 STRGTE 19.11 AGENA 19.12 ALTAIR 19.13 CRUCIS 19.14 TAURI 19.15 SCORPI 19.16 SPICA 19.17 POLLUX 19.18 PISCIS 19.19 DENUB 19.23 PLUTO 19.38 LUNA 19.40 SGC 19.41 SG1 19.42 SG2 19.43 SG3 19.44 SG4 19.45 SG5 19.46 SG6 19.47 SG7 19.48 SG8 19.49 SG9 19.55 VENUS 19.77 STARS 19.83 MARS 19.150 GALAXY 19.151 HELIOS 19.152 SIRIUS 19.153 ORION 19.155 SATURN 19.255 URANUS 19.300 MARCC 19.301 DUSTY 19.302 CALHAN 19.303 LULU 19.304 ANDY 19.511 ISIS 19.512 KRONOS 19.513 EOS 19.514 ATLAS 19.515 HYDRA 19.666 DECVAX 19.1023 BLKHOL 20.1 WOPR 20.2 SIOP 20.3 TX0 20.4 JOSHUA 20.513 SNOW 26.114 DOUDOU 26.115 VIDOU 26.201 MERKUR 26.411 TGE411 27.1 AREA27 27.3 MVB 27.4 ALDUR 32.1 BLACK 32.2 BROWN 32.3 RED 32.4 ORANGE 32.5 YELLOW 32.6 GREEN 32.7 BLUE 32.8 VIOLET 32.9 GREY 32.10 WHITE 33.1 THRIFT 33.4 CHARY 33.14 FRUGAL 33.15 MISER 33.17 CHEAP 42.1 CANADA 42.2 DAFFY 42.3 FUZZY 42.4 RIVEN 42.5 SPARKY 42.6 EARTH 42.7 MOON 44.1 HELIUM 44.2 XENON 44.3 ARGON 44.4 NEON 44.5 ZILVER 44.6 JODIUM 44.7 RADON 44.8 ASTAAT 44.9 OSMIUM 44.10 CHLOOR 44.11 ZWAWEL 44.12 INDIUM 44.13 ERBIUM 44.14 BROOM 44.15 FOSFOR 44.16 COBALT 44.17 KOPER 44.18 CERIUM 44.19 IJZER 44.20 CHROOM 44.21 NIKKEL 44.22 ZINK 44.23 LOOD 44.24 CURIUM 44.25 KWIK 44.26 GOUD 44.27 RADIUM 44.28 TIN 44.29 FLUOR 44.30 BOOR 44.31 SELEEN 44.32 ARSEEN 44.33 CARBON 44.34 OXYGEN 44.35 TITAAN 44.36 URAAN 44.37 BARIUM 44.38 CESIUM 44.39 KALIUM 44.40 SODIUM 44.41 AZOTE 44.42 VISMUT 44.43 OZON 51.1 PETEY 51.2 FLUFFY 51.4 SLIMER 52.1 SUN 54.27 CHEKOV 54.28 GEORDI 54.59 CEIRE 54.66 SPOCK 54.80 CEIDE 54.81 CEISI 54.82 CEIEE 54.92 SCOTTY 54.188 BTP 54.203 NEWACA 54.334 BOFIN 59.1 ODEN 59.7 NADJA 59.10 SOL 59.11 DIMMA 59.16 XERXES 59.18 KLEO 59.19 KLAS 59.20 KICKI 59.23 STORM 59.30 TOAD1 59.31 ULLA 59.32 FORNAX 59.33 REGN 59.40 VERA 59.41 MRC 59.53 ELVIRA 59.55 KRYLBO 59.56 R29GW 59.57 E825GW 59.58 STUPI 59.59 XXXXGW 60.648 CAMECA 60.649 ZEUS 60.650 SAVAGE 60.651 JOHNNY 60.652 MONK 60.653 HAM 60.654 DOC 60.660 RENNY 60.661 LNGTOM 60.662 DS201 60.663 RSTSE 60.664 PDXVAX With reservations that area 3 have not been updated. Now, which addresses do I make tunnel to? Answered by others, I note. :-) Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

13 years, 10 months

Integrating with the Italian network.

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2011-12-20 17:06, Ian McLaughlin wrote: Johnny, Can you please add the following node? 42.42 BET Done. Thanks. Johnny Thanks! Ian Sent from my iPad On 2011-12-20, at 7:47 AM, Johnny Billquist<bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2011-12-20 02:58, Rok Vidmar wrote: I would like to join HECnet which might lure some other guys in Slovenia to join us. Would area 3 and Multinet-Multinet tunnel be OK? I have got now 3 area routers in area 3 ready on fixed IP addresses and capable of Multinet tunneling. They are: NUK1c 3.171 193.2.191.211 RVDSXL 3.47 193.2.191.212 MUSIPC 3.222 84.255.246.85 Is MIM node database accessible via TCP/IP too? By the way. I have now updated the nodename database on MIM with the latest data from Chrissie and you. Here is a current list, for your amusement: NODE NODE ADDRESS NAME 1.1 MAGICA 1.2 ERNIE 1.3 FNATTE 1.4 GOBLIN 1.5 ZEKE 1.6 GNOME 1.7 BJARNE 1.8 KRILLE 1.9 TEMPO 1.10 SIGGE 1.11 ROCKY 1.12 PONY 1.13 MIM 1.14 TINA 1.15 PONDUS 1.16 GNAT 1.17 JOSSE 1.18 PAMINA 1.19 BEA 1.42 BIGBOA 1.100 FLETCH 1.200 PLINTH 1.201 CRISPS 1.202 NIPPER 1.300 CTAKAH 1.301 CTEPBA 1.302 XPEH 1.303 BIGSYS 1.350 ERSATZ 2.1 LEGATO 2.2 POCO 2.4 MEZZO 2.6 LARGO 2.7 CODA 2.9 DIVISI 2.10 ADAGIO 2.11 LENTO 2.12 JENSEN 2.13 GNOCCI 2.14 MULTIA 2.15 PAVANE 2.16 SKETTI 2.17 CHARON 2.150 LOKI 2.201 SELENE 3.47 RVDSXL 3.171 NUK1C 3.222 MUSIPC 4.1 B7 4.2 HALO 4.247 MINERV 4.248 SIMVAX 4.249 SLAVE 4.250 ORAC 4.251 ZX6000 4.252 NODE3 4.253 NODE2 4.254 ZEN 4.255 X60 4.256 BUBBLE 4.257 ELLEN 4.258 TIGER 4.259 ALEPH 5.10 MICRO1 5.12 MICRO2 5.14 VAX4 5.20 VAX6 5.21 VAX7 5.24 MICRO4 6.1 STAR69 6.2 QUIGON 6.10 COWBOX 6.110 ARTHUR 6.130 MARSHA 6.134 ROOSTA 8.244 RESCUE 8.400 GORVAX 8.401 CHIMPY 8.402 CHIMP 8.403 RHESUS 8.404 SAMDEV 8.405 ARIVAX 8.408 VAXPLS 8.410 FIDOGW 8.414 SOLAR 8.415 LUNAR 8.430 LEMUR 8.500 PYFFLE 8.700 RAZZLE 8.800 BONZO 8.808 DELLVX 8.900 SMDEV0 8.901 SMDEV1 8.902 SMDEV2 8.903 SMDEV3 10.1 SHARK 10.2 SNAKE 11.1 VAXSYS 11.2 MAISA 11.3 OLLIE 11.4 SORKKA 11.5 VS3K1 11.6 VSVLC 11.7 HAWK 11.8 EAGLE 11.9 JYLKM5 11.10 VS2K1 11.11 VS4K5 11.12 VS2K3 11.13 VS2K4 11.14 UGLY 11.15 CUTE 11.16 MOPO 11.17 ROMU 11.18 VS3K2 11.20 PAKVXT 11.100 DS20 11.101 AXPSYS 11.102 ALPHA 11.103 GAMMA 11.104 DELTA 11.105 BETA 11.1023 A11RTR 19.4 STRGTE 19.11 AGENA 19.12 ALTAIR 19.13 CRUCIS 19.14 TAURI 19.15 SCORPI 19.16 SPICA 19.17 POLLUX 19.18 PISCIS 19.19 DENUB 19.23 PLUTO 19.38 LUNA 19.40 SGC 19.41 SG1 19.42 SG2 19.43 SG3 19.44 SG4 19.45 SG5 19.46 SG6 19.47 SG7 19.48 SG8 19.49 SG9 19.55 VENUS 19.77 STARS 19.83 MARS 19.150 GALAXY 19.151 HELIOS 19.152 SIRIUS 19.153 ORION 19.155 SATURN 19.255 URANUS 19.300 MARCC 19.301 DUSTY 19.302 CALHAN 19.303 LULU 19.304 ANDY 19.511 ISIS 19.512 KRONOS 19.513 EOS 19.514 ATLAS 19.515 HYDRA 19.666 DECVAX 19.1023 BLKHOL 20.1 WOPR 20.2 SIOP 20.3 TX0 20.4 JOSHUA 20.513 SNOW 26.114 DOUDOU 26.115 VIDOU 26.201 MERKUR 26.411 TGE411 27.1 AREA27 27.3 MVB 27.4 ALDUR 32.1 BLACK 32.2 BROWN 32.3 RED 32.4 ORANGE 32.5 YELLOW 32.6 GREEN 32.7 BLUE 32.8 VIOLET 32.9 GREY 32.10 WHITE 33.1 THRIFT 33.4 CHARY 33.14 FRUGAL 33.15 MISER 33.17 CHEAP 42.1 CANADA 42.2 DAFFY 42.3 FUZZY 42.4 RIVEN 42.5 SPARKY 42.6 EARTH 42.7 MOON 44.1 HELIUM 44.2 XENON 44.3 ARGON 44.4 NEON 44.5 ZILVER 44.6 JODIUM 44.7 RADON 44.8 ASTAAT 44.9 OSMIUM 44.10 CHLOOR 44.11 ZWAWEL 44.12 INDIUM 44.13 ERBIUM 44.14 BROOM 44.15 FOSFOR 44.16 COBALT 44.17 KOPER 44.18 CERIUM 44.19 IJZER 44.20 CHROOM 44.21 NIKKEL 44.22 ZINK 44.23 LOOD 44.24 CURIUM 44.25 KWIK 44.26 GOUD 44.27 RADIUM 44.28 TIN 44.29 FLUOR 44.30 BOOR 44.31 SELEEN 44.32 ARSEEN 44.33 CARBON 44.34 OXYGEN 44.35 TITAAN 44.36 URAAN 44.37 BARIUM 44.38 CESIUM 44.39 KALIUM 44.40 SODIUM 44.41 AZOTE 44.42 VISMUT 44.43 OZON 51.1 PETEY 51.2 FLUFFY 51.4 SLIMER 52.1 SUN 54.27 CHEKOV 54.28 GEORDI 54.59 CEIRE 54.66 SPOCK 54.80 CEIDE 54.81 CEISI 54.82 CEIEE 54.92 SCOTTY 54.188 BTP 54.203 NEWACA 54.334 BOFIN 59.1 ODEN 59.7 NADJA 59.10 SOL 59.11 DIMMA 59.16 XERXES 59.18 KLEO 59.19 KLAS 59.20 KICKI 59.23 STORM 59.30 TOAD1 59.31 ULLA 59.32 FORNAX 59.33 REGN 59.40 VERA 59.41 MRC 59.53 ELVIRA 59.55 KRYLBO 59.56 R29GW 59.57 E825GW 59.58 STUPI 59.59 XXXXGW 60.648 CAMECA 60.649 ZEUS 60.650 SAVAGE 60.651 JOHNNY 60.652 MONK 60.653 HAM 60.654 DOC 60.660 RENNY 60.661 LNGTOM 60.662 DS201 60.663 RSTSE 60.664 PDXVAX Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=E8CB3E062B2111E19… -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

13 years, 10 months

Integrating with the Italian network.

by jeep＠scshome.net

Johnny, I have tried to connect to MIM::'s DTR database but I get sync errors. When you are generating the NODENAMES.* files for MIM::[DECNET] could you execute the following as part of your procedures? DTR READY HECNET FIND HECNET SORT BY AREA,ADDRESS FOR CURRENT PRINT NODE_ADDRESS,NODE_NAME ON DU4:[DECNET]NODENAMES.DAT Thanks. -Steve ________________________________ From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Johnny Billquist Sent: Tue 12/20/2011 08:52 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Integrating with the Italian network. FYI: The commands to get the list in Datatrieve: READY HECNET FIND HECNET SORT BY AREA,ADDRESS FOR CURRENT PRINT NODE_ADDRESS,NODE_NAME Obviously, you can modify the print statement to get it in any format and form, along with additional information, if you want to. For DTR on VMS, the first line should be: READY HECNET ON MIM:: (or atleast I think so), while on RSX, you should use REMDTR.TSK to access DTR on another node. Johnny On 2011-12-20 14:47, Johnny Billquist wrote: Do you have Datatrieve on whatever machine you are running NETUPDATE.COM? Johnny On 2011-12-20 14:00, Steve Davidson wrote: Johnny, Can you make this list available to MIM::[DECNET] as NODENAMES.DAT? I am working on the new version of NETUPDATE.COM that requires information in this format. The current version does not work well with clusters in certain cases. A list that is ordered by<area>.<node> is perfect for the new routine. Thanks. -Steve ________________________________ From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Johnny Billquist Sent: Tue 12/20/2011 07:50 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Integrating with the Italian network. On 2011-12-20 12:47, Rok Vidmar wrote: Isn't someone using area 3 on HECnet already? I think that was Chrissie, who offered to move away. ... Which she did and I am thankful for that. We're making progress? :-) How do you mean by "via TCP/IP"? I can easily create a text file with the node names and numbers, if you want to. And email it to my address? Yes, please. NODE NODE ADDRESS NAME 1.1 MAGICA 1.2 ERNIE 1.3 FNATTE 1.4 GOBLIN 1.5 ZEKE 1.6 GNOME 1.7 BJARNE 1.8 KRILLE 1.9 TEMPO 1.10 SIGGE 1.11 ROCKY 1.12 PONY 1.13 MIM 1.14 TINA 1.15 PONDUS 1.16 GNAT 1.17 JOSSE 1.18 PAMINA 1.19 BEA 1.42 BIGBOA 1.100 FLETCH 1.200 PLINTH 1.201 CRISPS 1.202 NIPPER 1.300 CTAKAH 1.301 CTEPBA 1.302 XPEH 1.303 BIGSYS 1.350 ERSATZ 2.1 LEGATO 2.2 POCO 2.4 MEZZO 2.6 LARGO 2.7 CODA 2.9 DIVISI 2.10 ADAGIO 2.11 LENTO 2.12 JENSEN 2.13 GNOCCI 2.14 MULTIA 2.15 PAVANE 2.16 SKETTI 2.17 CHARON 2.150 LOKI 2.201 SELENE 3.2 JELTZ 3.10 ARTHUR 3.30 MARSHA 3.31 TRISHA 3.32 FORD 3.34 ROOSTA 3.35 ZARQON 3.55 ZAPHOD 3.60 FENTIB 4.1 B7 4.2 HALO 4.247 MINERV 4.248 SIMVAX 4.249 SLAVE 4.250 ORAC 4.251 ZX6000 4.252 NODE3 4.253 NODE2 4.254 ZEN 4.255 X60 4.256 BUBBLE 4.257 ELLEN 4.258 TIGER 4.259 ALEPH 5.10 MICRO1 5.12 MICRO2 5.14 VAX4 5.20 VAX6 5.21 VAX7 5.24 MICRO4 6.1 STAR69 6.2 QUIGON 6.10 COWBOX 8.244 RESCUE 8.400 GORVAX 8.401 CHIMPY 8.402 CHIMP 8.403 RHESUS 8.404 SAMDEV 8.405 ARIVAX 8.408 VAXPLS 8.410 FIDOGW 8.414 SOLAR 8.415 LUNAR 8.430 LEMUR 8.500 PYFFLE 8.700 RAZZLE 8.800 BONZO 8.808 DELLVX 8.900 SMDEV0 8.901 SMDEV1 8.902 SMDEV2 8.903 SMDEV3 10.1 SHARK 10.2 SNAKE 11.1 VAXSYS 11.2 MAISA 11.3 OLLIE 11.4 SORKKA 11.5 VS3K1 11.6 VSVLC 11.7 HAWK 11.8 EAGLE 11.9 JYLKM5 11.10 VS2K1 11.11 VS4K5 11.12 VS2K3 11.13 VS2K4 11.14 UGLY 11.15 CUTE 11.16 MOPO 11.17 ROMU 11.18 VS3K2 11.20 PAKVXT 11.100 DS20 11.101 AXPSYS 11.102 ALPHA 11.103 GAMMA 11.104 DELTA 11.105 BETA 11.1023 A11RTR 19.4 STRGTE 19.11 AGENA 19.12 ALTAIR 19.13 CRUCIS 19.14 TAURI 19.15 SCORPI 19.16 SPICA 19.17 POLLUX 19.18 PISCIS 19.19 DENUB 19.23 PLUTO 19.38 LUNA 19.40 SGC 19.41 SG1 19.42 SG2 19.43 SG3 19.44 SG4 19.45 SG5 19.46 SG6 19.47 SG7 19.48 SG8 19.49 SG9 19.55 VENUS 19.77 STARS 19.83 MARS 19.150 GALAXY 19.151 HELIOS 19.152 SIRIUS 19.153 ORION 19.155 SATURN 19.255 URANUS 19.300 MARCC 19.301 DUSTY 19.302 CALHAN 19.303 LULU 19.304 ANDY 19.511 ISIS 19.512 KRONOS 19.513 EOS 19.514 ATLAS 19.515 HYDRA 19.666 DECVAX 19.1023 BLKHOL 20.1 WOPR 20.2 SIOP 20.3 TX0 20.4 JOSHUA 20.513 SNOW 26.114 DOUDOU 26.115 VIDOU 26.201 MERKUR 26.411 TGE411 27.1 AREA27 27.3 MVB 27.4 ALDUR 32.1 BLACK 32.2 BROWN 32.3 RED 32.4 ORANGE 32.5 YELLOW 32.6 GREEN 32.7 BLUE 32.8 VIOLET 32.9 GREY 32.10 WHITE 33.1 THRIFT 33.4 CHARY 33.14 FRUGAL 33.15 MISER 33.17 CHEAP 42.1 CANADA 42.2 DAFFY 42.3 FUZZY 42.4 RIVEN 42.5 SPARKY 42.6 EARTH 42.7 MOON 44.1 HELIUM 44.2 XENON 44.3 ARGON 44.4 NEON 44.5 ZILVER 44.6 JODIUM 44.7 RADON 44.8 ASTAAT 44.9 OSMIUM 44.10 CHLOOR 44.11 ZWAWEL 44.12 INDIUM 44.13 ERBIUM 44.14 BROOM 44.15 FOSFOR 44.16 COBALT 44.17 KOPER 44.18 CERIUM 44.19 IJZER 44.20 CHROOM 44.21 NIKKEL 44.22 ZINK 44.23 LOOD 44.24 CURIUM 44.25 KWIK 44.26 GOUD 44.27 RADIUM 44.28 TIN 44.29 FLUOR 44.30 BOOR 44.31 SELEEN 44.32 ARSEEN 44.33 CARBON 44.34 OXYGEN 44.35 TITAAN 44.36 URAAN 44.37 BARIUM 44.38 CESIUM 44.39 KALIUM 44.40 SODIUM 44.41 AZOTE 44.42 VISMUT 44.43 OZON 51.1 PETEY 51.2 FLUFFY 51.4 SLIMER 52.1 SUN 54.27 CHEKOV 54.28 GEORDI 54.59 CEIRE 54.66 SPOCK 54.80 CEIDE 54.81 CEISI 54.82 CEIEE 54.92 SCOTTY 54.188 BTP 54.203 NEWACA 54.334 BOFIN 59.1 ODEN 59.7 NADJA 59.10 SOL 59.11 DIMMA 59.16 XERXES 59.18 KLEO 59.19 KLAS 59.20 KICKI 59.23 STORM 59.30 TOAD1 59.31 ULLA 59.32 FORNAX 59.33 REGN 59.40 VERA 59.41 MRC 59.53 ELVIRA 59.55 KRYLBO 59.56 R29GW 59.57 E825GW 59.58 STUPI 59.59 XXXXGW 60.648 CAMECA 60.649 ZEUS 60.650 SAVAGE 60.651 JOHNNY 60.652 MONK 60.653 HAM 60.654 DOC 60.660 RENNY 60.661 LNGTOM 60.662 DS201 60.663 RSTSE 60.664 PDXVAX With reservations that area 3 have not been updated. Now, which addresses do I make tunnel to? Answered by others, I note. :-) Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

13 years, 10 months

Integrating with the Italian network.

by ian＠platinum.net

Johnny, Can you please add the following node? 42.42 BET Thanks! Ian Sent from my iPad On 2011-12-20, at 7:47 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2011-12-20 02:58, Rok Vidmar wrote: I would like to join HECnet which might lure some other guys in Slovenia to join us. Would area 3 and Multinet-Multinet tunnel be OK? I have got now 3 area routers in area 3 ready on fixed IP addresses and capable of Multinet tunneling. They are: NUK1c 3.171 193.2.191.211 RVDSXL 3.47 193.2.191.212 MUSIPC 3.222 84.255.246.85 Is MIM node database accessible via TCP/IP too? By the way. I have now updated the nodename database on MIM with the latest data from Chrissie and you. Here is a current list, for your amusement: NODE NODE ADDRESS NAME 1.1 MAGICA 1.2 ERNIE 1.3 FNATTE 1.4 GOBLIN 1.5 ZEKE 1.6 GNOME 1.7 BJARNE 1.8 KRILLE 1.9 TEMPO 1.10 SIGGE 1.11 ROCKY 1.12 PONY 1.13 MIM 1.14 TINA 1.15 PONDUS 1.16 GNAT 1.17 JOSSE 1.18 PAMINA 1.19 BEA 1.42 BIGBOA 1.100 FLETCH 1.200 PLINTH 1.201 CRISPS 1.202 NIPPER 1.300 CTAKAH 1.301 CTEPBA 1.302 XPEH 1.303 BIGSYS 1.350 ERSATZ 2.1 LEGATO 2.2 POCO 2.4 MEZZO 2.6 LARGO 2.7 CODA 2.9 DIVISI 2.10 ADAGIO 2.11 LENTO 2.12 JENSEN 2.13 GNOCCI 2.14 MULTIA 2.15 PAVANE 2.16 SKETTI 2.17 CHARON 2.150 LOKI 2.201 SELENE 3.47 RVDSXL 3.171 NUK1C 3.222 MUSIPC 4.1 B7 4.2 HALO 4.247 MINERV 4.248 SIMVAX 4.249 SLAVE 4.250 ORAC 4.251 ZX6000 4.252 NODE3 4.253 NODE2 4.254 ZEN 4.255 X60 4.256 BUBBLE 4.257 ELLEN 4.258 TIGER 4.259 ALEPH 5.10 MICRO1 5.12 MICRO2 5.14 VAX4 5.20 VAX6 5.21 VAX7 5.24 MICRO4 6.1 STAR69 6.2 QUIGON 6.10 COWBOX 6.110 ARTHUR 6.130 MARSHA 6.134 ROOSTA 8.244 RESCUE 8.400 GORVAX 8.401 CHIMPY 8.402 CHIMP 8.403 RHESUS 8.404 SAMDEV 8.405 ARIVAX 8.408 VAXPLS 8.410 FIDOGW 8.414 SOLAR 8.415 LUNAR 8.430 LEMUR 8.500 PYFFLE 8.700 RAZZLE 8.800 BONZO 8.808 DELLVX 8.900 SMDEV0 8.901 SMDEV1 8.902 SMDEV2 8.903 SMDEV3 10.1 SHARK 10.2 SNAKE 11.1 VAXSYS 11.2 MAISA 11.3 OLLIE 11.4 SORKKA 11.5 VS3K1 11.6 VSVLC 11.7 HAWK 11.8 EAGLE 11.9 JYLKM5 11.10 VS2K1 11.11 VS4K5 11.12 VS2K3 11.13 VS2K4 11.14 UGLY 11.15 CUTE 11.16 MOPO 11.17 ROMU 11.18 VS3K2 11.20 PAKVXT 11.100 DS20 11.101 AXPSYS 11.102 ALPHA 11.103 GAMMA 11.104 DELTA 11.105 BETA 11.1023 A11RTR 19.4 STRGTE 19.11 AGENA 19.12 ALTAIR 19.13 CRUCIS 19.14 TAURI 19.15 SCORPI 19.16 SPICA 19.17 POLLUX 19.18 PISCIS 19.19 DENUB 19.23 PLUTO 19.38 LUNA 19.40 SGC 19.41 SG1 19.42 SG2 19.43 SG3 19.44 SG4 19.45 SG5 19.46 SG6 19.47 SG7 19.48 SG8 19.49 SG9 19.55 VENUS 19.77 STARS 19.83 MARS 19.150 GALAXY 19.151 HELIOS 19.152 SIRIUS 19.153 ORION 19.155 SATURN 19.255 URANUS 19.300 MARCC 19.301 DUSTY 19.302 CALHAN 19.303 LULU 19.304 ANDY 19.511 ISIS 19.512 KRONOS 19.513 EOS 19.514 ATLAS 19.515 HYDRA 19.666 DECVAX 19.1023 BLKHOL 20.1 WOPR 20.2 SIOP 20.3 TX0 20.4 JOSHUA 20.513 SNOW 26.114 DOUDOU 26.115 VIDOU 26.201 MERKUR 26.411 TGE411 27.1 AREA27 27.3 MVB 27.4 ALDUR 32.1 BLACK 32.2 BROWN 32.3 RED 32.4 ORANGE 32.5 YELLOW 32.6 GREEN 32.7 BLUE 32.8 VIOLET 32.9 GREY 32.10 WHITE 33.1 THRIFT 33.4 CHARY 33.14 FRUGAL 33.15 MISER 33.17 CHEAP 42.1 CANADA 42.2 DAFFY 42.3 FUZZY 42.4 RIVEN 42.5 SPARKY 42.6 EARTH 42.7 MOON 44.1 HELIUM 44.2 XENON 44.3 ARGON 44.4 NEON 44.5 ZILVER 44.6 JODIUM 44.7 RADON 44.8 ASTAAT 44.9 OSMIUM 44.10 CHLOOR 44.11 ZWAWEL 44.12 INDIUM 44.13 ERBIUM 44.14 BROOM 44.15 FOSFOR 44.16 COBALT 44.17 KOPER 44.18 CERIUM 44.19 IJZER 44.20 CHROOM 44.21 NIKKEL 44.22 ZINK 44.23 LOOD 44.24 CURIUM 44.25 KWIK 44.26 GOUD 44.27 RADIUM 44.28 TIN 44.29 FLUOR 44.30 BOOR 44.31 SELEEN 44.32 ARSEEN 44.33 CARBON 44.34 OXYGEN 44.35 TITAAN 44.36 URAAN 44.37 BARIUM 44.38 CESIUM 44.39 KALIUM 44.40 SODIUM 44.41 AZOTE 44.42 VISMUT 44.43 OZON 51.1 PETEY 51.2 FLUFFY 51.4 SLIMER 52.1 SUN 54.27 CHEKOV 54.28 GEORDI 54.59 CEIRE 54.66 SPOCK 54.80 CEIDE 54.81 CEISI 54.82 CEIEE 54.92 SCOTTY 54.188 BTP 54.203 NEWACA 54.334 BOFIN 59.1 ODEN 59.7 NADJA 59.10 SOL 59.11 DIMMA 59.16 XERXES 59.18 KLEO 59.19 KLAS 59.20 KICKI 59.23 STORM 59.30 TOAD1 59.31 ULLA 59.32 FORNAX 59.33 REGN 59.40 VERA 59.41 MRC 59.53 ELVIRA 59.55 KRYLBO 59.56 R29GW 59.57 E825GW 59.58 STUPI 59.59 XXXXGW 60.648 CAMECA 60.649 ZEUS 60.650 SAVAGE 60.651 JOHNNY 60.652 MONK 60.653 HAM 60.654 DOC 60.660 RENNY 60.661 LNGTOM 60.662 DS201 60.663 RSTSE 60.664 PDXVAX Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=E8CB3E062B2111E19…

13 years, 10 months

Integrating with the Italian network.

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2011-12-20 02:58, Rok Vidmar wrote: I would like to join HECnet which might lure some other guys in Slovenia to join us. Would area 3 and Multinet-Multinet tunnel be OK? I have got now 3 area routers in area 3 ready on fixed IP addresses and capable of Multinet tunneling. They are: NUK1c 3.171 193.2.191.211 RVDSXL 3.47 193.2.191.212 MUSIPC 3.222 84.255.246.85 Is MIM node database accessible via TCP/IP too? By the way. I have now updated the nodename database on MIM with the latest data from Chrissie and you. Here is a current list, for your amusement: NODE NODE ADDRESS NAME 1.1 MAGICA 1.2 ERNIE 1.3 FNATTE 1.4 GOBLIN 1.5 ZEKE 1.6 GNOME 1.7 BJARNE 1.8 KRILLE 1.9 TEMPO 1.10 SIGGE 1.11 ROCKY 1.12 PONY 1.13 MIM 1.14 TINA 1.15 PONDUS 1.16 GNAT 1.17 JOSSE 1.18 PAMINA 1.19 BEA 1.42 BIGBOA 1.100 FLETCH 1.200 PLINTH 1.201 CRISPS 1.202 NIPPER 1.300 CTAKAH 1.301 CTEPBA 1.302 XPEH 1.303 BIGSYS 1.350 ERSATZ 2.1 LEGATO 2.2 POCO 2.4 MEZZO 2.6 LARGO 2.7 CODA 2.9 DIVISI 2.10 ADAGIO 2.11 LENTO 2.12 JENSEN 2.13 GNOCCI 2.14 MULTIA 2.15 PAVANE 2.16 SKETTI 2.17 CHARON 2.150 LOKI 2.201 SELENE 3.47 RVDSXL 3.171 NUK1C 3.222 MUSIPC 4.1 B7 4.2 HALO 4.247 MINERV 4.248 SIMVAX 4.249 SLAVE 4.250 ORAC 4.251 ZX6000 4.252 NODE3 4.253 NODE2 4.254 ZEN 4.255 X60 4.256 BUBBLE 4.257 ELLEN 4.258 TIGER 4.259 ALEPH 5.10 MICRO1 5.12 MICRO2 5.14 VAX4 5.20 VAX6 5.21 VAX7 5.24 MICRO4 6.1 STAR69 6.2 QUIGON 6.10 COWBOX 6.110 ARTHUR 6.130 MARSHA 6.134 ROOSTA 8.244 RESCUE 8.400 GORVAX 8.401 CHIMPY 8.402 CHIMP 8.403 RHESUS 8.404 SAMDEV 8.405 ARIVAX 8.408 VAXPLS 8.410 FIDOGW 8.414 SOLAR 8.415 LUNAR 8.430 LEMUR 8.500 PYFFLE 8.700 RAZZLE 8.800 BONZO 8.808 DELLVX 8.900 SMDEV0 8.901 SMDEV1 8.902 SMDEV2 8.903 SMDEV3 10.1 SHARK 10.2 SNAKE 11.1 VAXSYS 11.2 MAISA 11.3 OLLIE 11.4 SORKKA 11.5 VS3K1 11.6 VSVLC 11.7 HAWK 11.8 EAGLE 11.9 JYLKM5 11.10 VS2K1 11.11 VS4K5 11.12 VS2K3 11.13 VS2K4 11.14 UGLY 11.15 CUTE 11.16 MOPO 11.17 ROMU 11.18 VS3K2 11.20 PAKVXT 11.100 DS20 11.101 AXPSYS 11.102 ALPHA 11.103 GAMMA 11.104 DELTA 11.105 BETA 11.1023 A11RTR 19.4 STRGTE 19.11 AGENA 19.12 ALTAIR 19.13 CRUCIS 19.14 TAURI 19.15 SCORPI 19.16 SPICA 19.17 POLLUX 19.18 PISCIS 19.19 DENUB 19.23 PLUTO 19.38 LUNA 19.40 SGC 19.41 SG1 19.42 SG2 19.43 SG3 19.44 SG4 19.45 SG5 19.46 SG6 19.47 SG7 19.48 SG8 19.49 SG9 19.55 VENUS 19.77 STARS 19.83 MARS 19.150 GALAXY 19.151 HELIOS 19.152 SIRIUS 19.153 ORION 19.155 SATURN 19.255 URANUS 19.300 MARCC 19.301 DUSTY 19.302 CALHAN 19.303 LULU 19.304 ANDY 19.511 ISIS 19.512 KRONOS 19.513 EOS 19.514 ATLAS 19.515 HYDRA 19.666 DECVAX 19.1023 BLKHOL 20.1 WOPR 20.2 SIOP 20.3 TX0 20.4 JOSHUA 20.513 SNOW 26.114 DOUDOU 26.115 VIDOU 26.201 MERKUR 26.411 TGE411 27.1 AREA27 27.3 MVB 27.4 ALDUR 32.1 BLACK 32.2 BROWN 32.3 RED 32.4 ORANGE 32.5 YELLOW 32.6 GREEN 32.7 BLUE 32.8 VIOLET 32.9 GREY 32.10 WHITE 33.1 THRIFT 33.4 CHARY 33.14 FRUGAL 33.15 MISER 33.17 CHEAP 42.1 CANADA 42.2 DAFFY 42.3 FUZZY 42.4 RIVEN 42.5 SPARKY 42.6 EARTH 42.7 MOON 44.1 HELIUM 44.2 XENON 44.3 ARGON 44.4 NEON 44.5 ZILVER 44.6 JODIUM 44.7 RADON 44.8 ASTAAT 44.9 OSMIUM 44.10 CHLOOR 44.11 ZWAWEL 44.12 INDIUM 44.13 ERBIUM 44.14 BROOM 44.15 FOSFOR 44.16 COBALT 44.17 KOPER 44.18 CERIUM 44.19 IJZER 44.20 CHROOM 44.21 NIKKEL 44.22 ZINK 44.23 LOOD 44.24 CURIUM 44.25 KWIK 44.26 GOUD 44.27 RADIUM 44.28 TIN 44.29 FLUOR 44.30 BOOR 44.31 SELEEN 44.32 ARSEEN 44.33 CARBON 44.34 OXYGEN 44.35 TITAAN 44.36 URAAN 44.37 BARIUM 44.38 CESIUM 44.39 KALIUM 44.40 SODIUM 44.41 AZOTE 44.42 VISMUT 44.43 OZON 51.1 PETEY 51.2 FLUFFY 51.4 SLIMER 52.1 SUN 54.27 CHEKOV 54.28 GEORDI 54.59 CEIRE 54.66 SPOCK 54.80 CEIDE 54.81 CEISI 54.82 CEIEE 54.92 SCOTTY 54.188 BTP 54.203 NEWACA 54.334 BOFIN 59.1 ODEN 59.7 NADJA 59.10 SOL 59.11 DIMMA 59.16 XERXES 59.18 KLEO 59.19 KLAS 59.20 KICKI 59.23 STORM 59.30 TOAD1 59.31 ULLA 59.32 FORNAX 59.33 REGN 59.40 VERA 59.41 MRC 59.53 ELVIRA 59.55 KRYLBO 59.56 R29GW 59.57 E825GW 59.58 STUPI 59.59 XXXXGW 60.648 CAMECA 60.649 ZEUS 60.650 SAVAGE 60.651 JOHNNY 60.652 MONK 60.653 HAM 60.654 DOC 60.660 RENNY 60.661 LNGTOM 60.662 DS201 60.663 RSTSE 60.664 PDXVAX Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

13 years, 10 months

Integrating with the Italian network.

by christine.caulfield＠googlemail.com

On 20/12/11 12:44, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2011-12-20 12:40, Chrissie Caulfield wrote: On 20/12/11 11:15, Sampsa wrote: Isn't someone using area 3 on HECnet already? I was, but I've moved into shared area 6 now :) Excellent. But that also reminds me... I should update the nodename database. Care to give me that update? (I assume all nodes in area 3 are to be deleted, but what nodes, and which addresses in area 6?) Yes you can remove all of area 3. I've now sorted out my area 6 nodes and they are these: 6.134 (ROOSTA) 6.110 (ARTHUR) 6.130 (MARSHA) Thanks Chrissie Johnny Chrissie On 20 Dec 2011, at 03:58, Rok Vidmar wrote: I would like to join HECnet which might lure some other guys in Slovenia to join us. Would area 3 and Multinet-Multinet tunnel be OK? I have got now 3 area routers in area 3 ready on fixed IP addresses and capable of Multinet tunneling. They are: NUK1c 3.171 193.2.191.211 RVDSXL 3.47 193.2.191.212 MUSIPC 3.222 84.255.246.85 Is MIM node database accessible via TCP/IP too? -- Regards, Rok -- Chrissie

13 years, 10 months

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