By the way, here is a slightly different presentation on the area view from MIM::
.type ntd.SCR
22-DEC-11 04:02:12 Node: MIM (1.13) "RSX system at Update, Sweden"
RSX-11M-Plus, Area Routing Node, DECnet V4.6
Area Circuit Hop/Cst Next Node Area Circuit Hop/Cst Next Node
2 UNA-0 2/6 SG1 (19.41)
3 UNA-0 2/6 SG1 (19.41)
4 UNA-0 1/3 SLAVE ( 4.249)
6 UNA-0 1/3 STAR69( 6.1)
8 UNA-0 2/6 SG1 (19.41)
11 UNA-0 1/3 MAISA (11.2)
19 UNA-0 1/3 SG1 (19.41)
20 UNA-0 2/13 SG1 (19.41)
33 UNA-0 2/6 SG1 (19.41)
42 UNA-0 1/3 CANADA(42.1)
44 UNA-0 1/3 NIKKEL(44.21)
54 UNA-0 3/16 SG1 (19.41)
59 UNA-0 3/9 SG1 (19.41)
- Total areas: 13-
.
(The total areas is excluding area 1, which is the local area.)
Johnny
On 2011-12-22 03:57, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Current list as of right now:
.ncp sho act are
Active areas summary as of 22-DEC-11 03:53:33
Next
Area State Circuit Node
1 Reachable 1.13 (MIM)
2 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
3 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
4 Reachable UNA-0 4.249 (SLAVE)
6 Reachable UNA-0 6.1 (STAR69)
8 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
11 Reachable UNA-0 11.2 (MAISA)
19 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
20 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
33 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
42 Reachable UNA-0 42.1 (CANADA)
44 Reachable UNA-0 44.21 (NIKKEL)
54 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
59 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
.
That is 14 areas, and I'm talking to one more guy who wants a new area,
which would bring us to 15.
Anyone object to me giving him area 13? It was asked to be reserved for
DECserver management, but I don't really see the point of having an area
for that purpose. But if you can convince me... :-)
Also, SG1:: is quite a hub from the bridge point of view. Lots of
connections coming through there. Nice. :-)
What type of machine is it?
Johnny
On 2011-12-21 18:29, Steve Davidson wrote:
At the moment 13 areas are up and running - this list only show 10.
Hopefully sometime today we will be at 14. We're working on it! :-)
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 5:44 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
On 2011-12-20 22:34, Steve Davidson wrote:
I have defined (or redefined) tunnels for areas 3 and 6 for both
GORVAX:: and SG1::. These are effective immediately. Enjoy!
Cool. Area 3 is up according to MIM. Pretty...
.ncp sho act are
Active areas summary as of 20-DEC-11 23:42:41
Next
Area State Circuit Node
1 Reachable 1.13 (MIM)
3 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
4 Reachable UNA-0 4.249 (SLAVE)
6 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
8 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
11 Reachable UNA-0 11.2 (MAISA)
19 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
20 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
33 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
42 Reachable UNA-0 42.1 (CANADA)
.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Two things:
First I would like to continue to reserve area 13. All the
documentation about DECserver management refers to it.
Second SG1 is a VS4000/30 (VLC). It is small, quiet, and cheap to run -
all very important features. If I remember correctly, LEGATO is the
same platform for the exact purpose. The only difference between my
Multnet "gateway" is that it can accommodate dynamic-DNS at the other
end.
-Steve
PS One more network is in the wings. You should be getting email about
it soon enough if you have not already.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:58 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
Current list as of right now:
.ncp sho act are
Active areas summary as of 22-DEC-11 03:53:33
Next
Area State Circuit Node
1 Reachable 1.13 (MIM)
2 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
3 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
4 Reachable UNA-0 4.249 (SLAVE)
6 Reachable UNA-0 6.1 (STAR69)
8 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
11 Reachable UNA-0 11.2 (MAISA)
19 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
20 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
33 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
42 Reachable UNA-0 42.1 (CANADA)
44 Reachable UNA-0 44.21 (NIKKEL)
54 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
59 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
.
That is 14 areas, and I'm talking to one more guy who wants a new area,
which would bring us to 15.
Anyone object to me giving him area 13? It was asked to be reserved for
DECserver management, but I don't really see the point of having an area
for that purpose. But if you can convince me... :-)
Also, SG1:: is quite a hub from the bridge point of view. Lots of
connections coming through there. Nice. :-) What type of machine is it?
Johnny
On 2011-12-21 18:29, Steve Davidson wrote:
At the moment 13 areas are up and running - this list only show 10.
Hopefully sometime today we will be at 14. We're working on it! :-)
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 5:44 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
On 2011-12-20 22:34, Steve Davidson wrote:
I have defined (or redefined) tunnels for areas 3 and 6 for both
GORVAX:: and SG1::. These are effective immediately. Enjoy!
Cool. Area 3 is up according to MIM. Pretty...
.ncp sho act are
Active areas summary as of 20-DEC-11 23:42:41
Next
Area State Circuit Node
1 Reachable 1.13 (MIM)
3 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
4 Reachable UNA-0 4.249 (SLAVE)
6 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
8 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
11 Reachable UNA-0 11.2 (MAISA)
19 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
20 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
33 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
42 Reachable UNA-0 42.1 (CANADA)
.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Yes. I was trying to convey that his site (area) is not an intermediate
hop but at the end of a leg (as it were). If you compare this to
Sampsa's network (and mine) where our sites route traffic for multiple
sites into your (bridged) backbone. Sampsa and I have multiple
redundant links to provide maximum connectivity. We are also linked
together via Multinet and the bridge. In this way if one of the sites
has issues at least something is available for others.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:54 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
Steve, are you using "end node" in another meaning than the DECnet one?
Because Peter have a whole area, and not just an endnode machine...
Johnny
On 2011-12-21 20:01, Steve Davidson wrote:
Peter,
Add an additional connection to Multinet for SG1. Use 69.21.253.230.
I would set your costs (because you are an "end node") as follows:
GORVAX = 3 Shortest distance and high speed
SG1 = 5 Medium distance and medium speed
LEGATO> 5 Longest distance and slower speed
According to Sampsa, his bridge link is having issues (I have no
access to that), and he is out of country, so connecting to SG1 is
probably a great idea for now and won't hurt anything. SG1 like
LEGATO is a dedicated Multinet router. All it does is that one
function.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Peter Lothberg
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 2:08 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Cc: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
Steve:
Where are you located?
I'm everywhere, the Vaxen is in Stockholm, Sweden.
What is your IP address? I can add links to GORVAX and SG1 at any
time. If your IP address is dynamic, then SG1 will deal with that
automatically whereas GORVAX is a manual change.
192.108.200.211
It;s static.
-Peter
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Believe me, electricity is not a concern. Nor is bandwidth.
My only worry is heat, which is why the VAX 8650 is not running. (Or the VAX 7720.) Cooling system broke down. :-(
Johnny
On 2011-12-22 03:53, Steve Davidson wrote:
Maybe...
I use a VS4000 Model 30 (VLC). It does not use much electricity so I
don't worry about it.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:47 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
On 2011-12-21 19:08, Peter Lothberg wrote:
Steve:
Where are you located?
I'm everywhere, the Vaxen is in Stockholm, Sweden.
Maybe its time I set up a VAX in Uppsala as well, with multinet...?
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Current list as of right now:
.ncp sho act are
Active areas summary as of 22-DEC-11 03:53:33
Next
Area State Circuit Node
1 Reachable 1.13 (MIM)
2 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
3 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
4 Reachable UNA-0 4.249 (SLAVE)
6 Reachable UNA-0 6.1 (STAR69)
8 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
11 Reachable UNA-0 11.2 (MAISA)
19 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
20 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
33 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
42 Reachable UNA-0 42.1 (CANADA)
44 Reachable UNA-0 44.21 (NIKKEL)
54 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
59 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
.
That is 14 areas, and I'm talking to one more guy who wants a new area, which would bring us to 15.
Anyone object to me giving him area 13? It was asked to be reserved for DECserver management, but I don't really see the point of having an area for that purpose. But if you can convince me... :-)
Also, SG1:: is quite a hub from the bridge point of view. Lots of connections coming through there. Nice. :-)
What type of machine is it?
Johnny
On 2011-12-21 18:29, Steve Davidson wrote:
At the moment 13 areas are up and running - this list only show 10.
Hopefully sometime today we will be at 14. We're working on it! :-)
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 5:44 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
On 2011-12-20 22:34, Steve Davidson wrote:
I have defined (or redefined) tunnels for areas 3 and 6 for both
GORVAX:: and SG1::. These are effective immediately. Enjoy!
Cool. Area 3 is up according to MIM. Pretty...
.ncp sho act are
Active areas summary as of 20-DEC-11 23:42:41
Next
Area State Circuit Node
1 Reachable 1.13 (MIM)
3 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
4 Reachable UNA-0 4.249 (SLAVE)
6 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
8 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
11 Reachable UNA-0 11.2 (MAISA)
19 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
20 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
33 Reachable UNA-0 19.41 (SG1)
42 Reachable UNA-0 42.1 (CANADA)
.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Maybe...
I use a VS4000 Model 30 (VLC). It does not use much electricity so I
don't worry about it.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:47 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
On 2011-12-21 19:08, Peter Lothberg wrote:
Steve:
Where are you located?
I'm everywhere, the Vaxen is in Stockholm, Sweden.
Maybe its time I set up a VAX in Uppsala as well, with multinet...?
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Steve, are you using "end node" in another meaning than the DECnet one? Because Peter have a whole area, and not just an endnode machine...
Johnny
On 2011-12-21 20:01, Steve Davidson wrote:
Peter,
Add an additional connection to Multinet for SG1. Use 69.21.253.230. I
would set your costs (because you are an "end node") as follows:
GORVAX = 3 Shortest distance and high speed
SG1 = 5 Medium distance and medium speed
LEGATO> 5 Longest distance and slower speed
According to Sampsa, his bridge link is having issues (I have no access
to that), and he is out of country, so connecting to SG1 is probably a
great idea for now and won't hurt anything. SG1 like LEGATO is a
dedicated Multinet router. All it does is that one function.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Peter Lothberg
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 2:08 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Cc: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
Steve:
Where are you located?
I'm everywhere, the Vaxen is in Stockholm, Sweden.
What is your IP address? I can add links to GORVAX and SG1 at any
time. If your IP address is dynamic, then SG1 will deal with that
automatically whereas GORVAX is a manual change.
192.108.200.211
It;s static.
-Peter
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 2011-12-21 20:05, Sampsa wrote:
BTW, bounced the router and bridge remotely (which I REALLY dislike doing) but no use.
Is Johnny's side of the bridge running ok?
Sampsa, I disabled you a few days ago when your connection (well, the adjacency to MIM= was going up and down every few minutes for about two days. I really dislike having so big logs with just CHIMPY up and down messages... :-)
Are you more stable now?
Johnny
Sampsa
On 21 Dec 2011, at 21:01, Steve Davidson wrote:
Peter,
Add an additional connection to Multinet for SG1. Use 69.21.253.230. I
would set your costs (because you are an "end node") as follows:
GORVAX = 3 Shortest distance and high speed
SG1 = 5 Medium distance and medium speed
LEGATO> 5 Longest distance and slower speed
According to Sampsa, his bridge link is having issues (I have no access
to that), and he is out of country, so connecting to SG1 is probably a
great idea for now and won't hurt anything. SG1 like LEGATO is a
dedicated Multinet router. All it does is that one function.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Peter Lothberg
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 2:08 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Cc: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
Steve:
Where are you located?
I'm everywhere, the Vaxen is in Stockholm, Sweden.
What is your IP address? I can add links to GORVAX and SG1 at any
time. If your IP address is dynamic, then SG1 will deal with that
automatically whereas GORVAX is a manual change.
192.108.200.211
It;s static.
-Peter
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 2011-12-21 19:08, Peter Lothberg wrote:
Steve:
Where are you located?
I'm everywhere, the Vaxen is in Stockholm, Sweden.
Maybe its time I set up a VAX in Uppsala as well, with multinet...?
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
NIKKEL runs, the bridge too so area 44 is on line, though rather unpopulated.
One new node: 44.44 name RENIUM which is a Personal Alpha simulator.
------Origineel bericht------
Van: Peter Coghlan
Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Multinet Tunnel Links defined
Verzonden: 21 december 2011 22:27
I think that would be great, even if only for a short time. We are
working on bringing up one more area that hopefully will be up shortly.
I may even bring up all three clusters plus my PDP-11's to celebrate.
Now if I only had a replacement SCSI board for my VAXstation 3100 Model
10 I could bring up ULTRIX on DECVAX:: just like DEC! Hey I don't call
this declab.net for nothing :-)
I would like to bring up my Alphaserver 2100 and see if I can get OSF1
or Tru-64 or whatever it is called this week to talk DECnet. However, I
am also waiting on spare parts.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan,
BTP::PETER
