On 06/05/2013 08:44 PM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
This just came in from a friend of mine:
"Ric Lewis at HP sent out a letter basically saying VMS is dead.
Support up through 2020, but 2016 is the last sale of VMS-
supported hardware."
Now, of course, "will only be sold for 2.5 more years and will only
be supported for 6.5" doesn't exactly say "dead" to me; it says "WILL
EVENTUALLY BE dead", but still, this does kinda suck. But it's awesome
that it lasted this long. From 1978 until 2020 is a great run in this
industry. And I'll be running it, God willing, well after that. (if I'm
still breathing!)
I do hope those who have sources (or at least, source listings) will
be able to preserve them. (hint hint)
Nudge nudge. Wink wink. Say no more.
The world of real computers thanks you.
HP: Hopelessly Pathetic.
Exactly. How the mighty have fallen. Bill and Dave are rolling in their graves.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes:
This just came in from a friend of mine:
"Ric Lewis at HP sent out a letter basically saying VMS is dead.
Support up through 2020, but 2016 is the last sale of VMS-
supported hardware."
Now, of course, "will only be sold for 2.5 more years and will only
be supported for 6.5" doesn't exactly say "dead" to me; it says "WILL
EVENTUALLY BE dead", but still, this does kinda suck. But it's awesome
that it lasted this long. From 1978 until 2020 is a great run in this
industry. And I'll be running it, God willing, well after that. (if I'm
still breathing!)
I do hope those who have sources (or at least, source listings) will
be able to preserve them. (hint hint)
Nudge nudge. Wink wink. Say no more.
HP: Hopelessly Pathetic.
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
This just came in from a friend of mine:
"Ric Lewis at HP sent out a letter basically saying VMS is dead.
Support up through 2020, but 2016 is the last sale of VMS-
supported hardware."
Now, of course, "will only be sold for 2.5 more years and will only be supported for 6.5" doesn't exactly say "dead" to me; it says "WILL EVENTUALLY BE dead", but still, this does kinda suck. But it's awesome that it lasted this long. From 1978 until 2020 is a great run in this industry. And I'll be running it, God willing, well after that. (if I'm still breathing!)
I do hope those who have sources (or at least, source listings) will be able to preserve them. (hint hint)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Can anyone point me to copies (online scanned documents would be fine) of the DEC Systems and Options Catalog pre 1980? Bitsavers has one from 1983, but I need something earlier. Price lists would be OK too I m not exactly sure when DEC started publishing the SOC.
Thanks,
Bob Armstrong
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 05:54:36AM -0400, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> writes:
On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 07:47:13PM -0400, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> writes:
John Egolf just sent me the PAK stuff. Now I have the problem of getting it
on to the bloody machine. Without access to any networks (until they're
licensed), i'm going through the arse-pain of copy/paste from one terminal
window to another. Oh god its tedious.
Just load the VMS PAKs, TCPIP and DECnet PAKs. Reboot and then you should
be able to get the rest of the PAK file (I'm assuming it's a Stream-LF text
file just like the DSPP PAKs) copied over. You may need to set file's at-
tributes to be just Stream in order to execute the file as a procedure (ie.
@file).
What I usually do is just roll an iso image with the license file on it
then mount that in simh. No screwing around needed. :)
Similar here with HP DSPP PAKs. I put the PAK files on both floppy and CD;
albeit, few, if any, systems today with floppy drives.
well, for simh it doesn't matter, you can do either as there aren't any
physical devices involved either place. :)
-brian
Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> writes:
On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 07:47:13PM -0400, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> writes:
John Egolf just sent me the PAK stuff. Now I have the problem of getting it
on to the bloody machine. Without access to any networks (until they're
licensed), i'm going through the arse-pain of copy/paste from one terminal
window to another. Oh god its tedious.
Just load the VMS PAKs, TCPIP and DECnet PAKs. Reboot and then you should
be able to get the rest of the PAK file (I'm assuming it's a Stream-LF text
file just like the DSPP PAKs) copied over. You may need to set file's at-
tributes to be just Stream in order to execute the file as a procedure (ie.
@file).
What I usually do is just roll an iso image with the license file on it
then mount that in simh. No screwing around needed. :)
Similar here with HP DSPP PAKs. I put the PAK files on both floppy and CD;
albeit, few, if any, systems today with floppy drives.
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
telnet to decuserve.org if you are in the US, and renew/create an account there
http://decuserve.org/
On 6/4/13, Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I've had my machine (TARDIS) offline for a while due to moving house, being
hospitalised and then going on holiday.
So, now I've come to restart the thing, it seems my licenses have expired,
which shouldn't have happened until September. Could this be down to moving
the simh instance to a new machine and giving it a new ip address?
Anyway, where do i get the licenses from again? All the addresses I had
either don't work, or give me completely unrelated websites.
Tony
(probably being stupid again)
On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 07:47:13PM -0400, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> writes:
John Egolf just sent me the PAK stuff. Now I have the problem of getting it
on to the bloody machine. Without access to any networks (until they're
licensed), i'm going through the arse-pain of copy/paste from one terminal
window to another. Oh god its tedious.
Just load the VMS PAKs, TCPIP and DECnet PAKs. Reboot and then you should
be able to get the rest of the PAK file (I'm assuming it's a Stream-LF text
file just like the DSPP PAKs) copied over. You may need to set file's at-
tributes to be just Stream in order to execute the file as a procedure (ie.
@file).
What I usually do is just roll an iso image with the license file on it
then mount that in simh. No screwing around needed. :)
-brian
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> wrote:
Gregg,
Yeti are under the control of The Great Intelligence.
But you knew that...
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-
<system at tmesis.com> wrote:
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes:
You changed the IP address of the host machine running simh, and that
buggered your VMS licenses?
I find that very difficult to wrap my brain around. VERY difficult.
Especially, since SYS$GRANT_LICENSE doesn't know diddly about TCP/IP or
DECnet.
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker
VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
Hello!
Remember gang stranger things have happened. Incidentally Dave despite
the fact that your still surrounded by yetis, they had nothing to do
with the problem.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Hello!
I know Tony. That's why they are still there. Good luck!
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Sorted now. thanks for the help.
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> wrote:
I read that too late. I've done the cut/paste thing in to putty to save the file then @it.
It might work... hopefully.
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system at tmesis.com> wrote:
Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> writes:
>John Egolf just sent me the PAK stuff. Now I have the problem of getting it
>on to the bloody machine. Without access to any networks (until they're
>licensed), i'm going through the arse-pain of copy/paste from one terminal
>window to another. Oh god its tedious.
Just load the VMS PAKs, TCPIP and DECnet PAKs. Reboot and then you should
be able to get the rest of the PAK file (I'm assuming it's a Stream-LF text
file just like the DSPP PAKs) copied over. You may need to set file's at-
tributes to be just Stream in order to execute the file as a procedure (ie.
@file).
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
