I'm really starting to like this OS, and wondered if it's possible to attach it to DECNET Phase IV? The docs weren't exactly clear.
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
I would be using a USB 3G device to do this, so I wouldn't know my IP
until the day itself. Is there anyone with a bridge on HECnet who would
be available during UK daytime on those days to configure their bridge
to peer with me? There may be more than one change of IP address over
the course of the weekend though.
Honestly, the "easy" way to do this is to set up a VPN such that your
event site LAN is more or less bridged to someone's existing LAN that
contains DECNET hosts. This solves the problems that are toughest:
moving IP assignment, address translation, port translation, etc. Since
the VPN typically uses public key stuff for auth, you don't need to
fiddle with ip address restrictions, the client connects to the uplink
point when things change, etc. Eliminates config changes in bridges,
multinet stubbornness about a single predefined port number for both
ends, various stupid injected by devices that barely understand TCP
ports other than 80, much less non-IP protocols, etc. One of the Area
18 sites is "permanently" connected this way. I can probably contribute
config hints if the router/firewall/vpn technology is a linux box.
De
:-)
On 09/22/2013 10:04 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I'm building one the moment SIMH v4 comes out :)
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 23 Sep 2013, at 04:03, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
I'd use that in a cafe' in a heartbeat.
-Dave
On 09/22/2013 10:02 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
That would be pretty nifty - build a laptop that runs Linux, starts SIMH from init and runs with graphics. A VaxBook if you will.
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 23 Sep 2013, at 04:00, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 09/22/2013 09:43 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Speaking of SIMH v4, I came across this in github:
Add sim_video and VAX QVSS (VCB01) Monochrome Video Board from Matt Burke
Does this mean we'll get a graphical version of SIMH VAX?
That has been in the works for some time.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
I'm building one the moment SIMH v4 comes out :)
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 23 Sep 2013, at 04:03, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
I'd use that in a cafe' in a heartbeat.
-Dave
On 09/22/2013 10:02 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
That would be pretty nifty - build a laptop that runs Linux, starts SIMH from init and runs with graphics. A VaxBook if you will.
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 23 Sep 2013, at 04:00, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 09/22/2013 09:43 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Speaking of SIMH v4, I came across this in github:
Add sim_video and VAX QVSS (VCB01) Monochrome Video Board from Matt Burke
Does this mean we'll get a graphical version of SIMH VAX?
That has been in the works for some time.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
I'd use that in a cafe' in a heartbeat.
-Dave
On 09/22/2013 10:02 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
That would be pretty nifty - build a laptop that runs Linux, starts SIMH from init and runs with graphics. A VaxBook if you will.
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 23 Sep 2013, at 04:00, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 09/22/2013 09:43 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Speaking of SIMH v4, I came across this in github:
Add sim_video and VAX QVSS (VCB01) Monochrome Video Board from Matt Burke
Does this mean we'll get a graphical version of SIMH VAX?
That has been in the works for some time.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
That would be pretty nifty - build a laptop that runs Linux, starts SIMH from init and runs with graphics. A VaxBook if you will.
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 23 Sep 2013, at 04:00, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 09/22/2013 09:43 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Speaking of SIMH v4, I came across this in github:
Add sim_video and VAX QVSS (VCB01) Monochrome Video Board from Matt Burke
Does this mean we'll get a graphical version of SIMH VAX?
That has been in the works for some time.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 09/22/2013 09:43 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Speaking of SIMH v4, I came across this in github:
Add sim_video and VAX QVSS (VCB01) Monochrome Video Board from Matt Burke
Does this mean we'll get a graphical version of SIMH VAX?
That has been in the works for some time.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 23 Sep 2013, at 03:05, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote:
It's hard to describe Multinet with words that are printable. It was designed by fools who never bothered to understand the DECnet architecture specifications and were utterly clueless about competent protocol design. Avoid it if at all possible.
GRE tunneling is a good answer. (So is SIMH DMC emulation, if both ends can speak it.)
Speaking of SIMH v4, I came across this in github:
Add sim_video and VAX QVSS (VCB01) Monochrome Video Board from Matt Burke
Does this mean we'll get a graphical version of SIMH VAX?
sampsa
It's hard to describe Multinet with words that are printable. It was designed by fools who never bothered to understand the DECnet architecture specifications and were utterly clueless about competent protocol design. Avoid it if at all possible.
GRE tunneling is a good answer. (So is SIMH DMC emulation, if both ends can speak it.)
paul
On Sep 22, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Robert Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com<mailto:robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
I don t have multinet and I have never installed it. What protocol does it use under the covers, is it something proprietary to multinet? Could I get the DECbrouter I bought recently to interoperate with your side? If it is not too hard I could try implementing Multinet interop in my user mode router.
Regards
Rob
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE> [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>] On Behalf Of Steve Davidson
Sent: 22 September 2013 11:43
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct
If you decide to use Multinet and have access to a dynamic DNS name, then I can link SG1:: to it via the SW at this end. It is completely automated. If we can manage to install Multinet on GORVAX:: then the links would be even faster.
-Steve
________________________________
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE> on behalf of Mark Wickens
Sent: Sat 9/21/2013 16:18
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct
On 21/09/2013 21:12, Robert Jarratt wrote:
I am hoping to connect to HECnet from the DEC Legacy event in October, hopefully connecting a few interesting systems to HECnet and allowing attendees to explore HECnet.
I would be using a USB 3G device to do this, so I wouldn t know my IP until the day itself. Is there anyone with a bridge on HECnet who would be available during UK daytime on those days to configure their bridge to peer with me? There may be more than one change of IP address over the course of the weekend though.
Are there any other options?
Thanks
Rob
Rob,
Obviously I will have my home bridge going, so maybe we can keep this in-house with a bit of experimentation? I think this is maybe what I did last time, I really can't remember but it makes a lot of sense and it does shake my memory a bit!
Mark.
If you want to use the GRE tunnels I can give you access to the db to update your IP.
-brian
On Sep 22, 2013, at 16:18, "Robert Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote:
I don't have multinet and I have never installed it. What protocol does it
use under the covers, is it something proprietary to multinet? Could I get
the DECbrouter I bought recently to interoperate with your side? If it is
not too hard I could try implementing Multinet interop in my user mode
router.
Regards
Rob
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf
Of Steve Davidson
Sent: 22 September 2013 11:43
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct
If you decide to use Multinet and have access to a dynamic DNS name, then I
can link SG1:: to it via the SW at this end. It is completely automated.
If we can manage to install Multinet on GORVAX:: then the links would be
even faster.
-Steve
_____
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Mark Wickens
Sent: Sat 9/21/2013 16:18
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct
On 21/09/2013 21:12, Robert Jarratt wrote:
I am hoping to connect to HECnet from the DEC Legacy event in October,
hopefully connecting a few interesting systems to HECnet and allowing
attendees to explore HECnet.
I would be using a USB 3G device to do this, so I wouldn't know my IP until
the day itself. Is there anyone with a bridge on HECnet who would be
available during UK daytime on those days to configure their bridge to peer
with me? There may be more than one change of IP address over the course of
the weekend though.
Are there any other options?
Thanks
Rob
Rob,
Obviously I will have my home bridge going, so maybe we can keep this
in-house with a bit of experimentation? I think this is maybe what I did
last time, I really can't remember but it makes a lot of sense and it does
shake my memory a bit!
Mark.
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