It's hard to describe Multinet with words that are printable. It was designed by fools who never bothered to understand the DECnet architecture specifications and were utterly clueless about competent protocol design. Avoid it if at all possible.
GRE tunneling is a good answer. (So is SIMH DMC emulation, if both ends can speak it.)
paul
On Sep 22, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Robert Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com<mailto:robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
I don t have multinet and I have never installed it. What protocol does it use under the covers, is it something proprietary to multinet? Could I get the DECbrouter I bought recently to interoperate with your side? If it is not too hard I could try implementing Multinet interop in my user mode router.
Regards
Rob
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE> [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>] On Behalf Of Steve Davidson
Sent: 22 September 2013 11:43
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct
If you decide to use Multinet and have access to a dynamic DNS name, then I can link SG1:: to it via the SW at this end. It is completely automated. If we can manage to install Multinet on GORVAX:: then the links would be even faster.
-Steve
________________________________
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE> on behalf of Mark Wickens
Sent: Sat 9/21/2013 16:18
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct
On 21/09/2013 21:12, Robert Jarratt wrote:
I am hoping to connect to HECnet from the DEC Legacy event in October, hopefully connecting a few interesting systems to HECnet and allowing attendees to explore HECnet.
I would be using a USB 3G device to do this, so I wouldn t know my IP until the day itself. Is there anyone with a bridge on HECnet who would be available during UK daytime on those days to configure their bridge to peer with me? There may be more than one change of IP address over the course of the weekend though.
Are there any other options?
Thanks
Rob
Rob,
Obviously I will have my home bridge going, so maybe we can keep this in-house with a bit of experimentation? I think this is maybe what I did last time, I really can't remember but it makes a lot of sense and it does shake my memory a bit!
Mark.
If you want to use the GRE tunnels I can give you access to the db to update your IP.
-brian
On Sep 22, 2013, at 16:18, "Robert Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote:
I don't have multinet and I have never installed it. What protocol does it
use under the covers, is it something proprietary to multinet? Could I get
the DECbrouter I bought recently to interoperate with your side? If it is
not too hard I could try implementing Multinet interop in my user mode
router.
Regards
Rob
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf
Of Steve Davidson
Sent: 22 September 2013 11:43
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct
If you decide to use Multinet and have access to a dynamic DNS name, then I
can link SG1:: to it via the SW at this end. It is completely automated.
If we can manage to install Multinet on GORVAX:: then the links would be
even faster.
-Steve
_____
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Mark Wickens
Sent: Sat 9/21/2013 16:18
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct
On 21/09/2013 21:12, Robert Jarratt wrote:
I am hoping to connect to HECnet from the DEC Legacy event in October,
hopefully connecting a few interesting systems to HECnet and allowing
attendees to explore HECnet.
I would be using a USB 3G device to do this, so I wouldn't know my IP until
the day itself. Is there anyone with a bridge on HECnet who would be
available during UK daytime on those days to configure their bridge to peer
with me? There may be more than one change of IP address over the course of
the weekend though.
Are there any other options?
Thanks
Rob
Rob,
Obviously I will have my home bridge going, so maybe we can keep this
in-house with a bit of experimentation? I think this is maybe what I did
last time, I really can't remember but it makes a lot of sense and it does
shake my memory a bit!
Mark.
<winmail.dat>
I don't have multinet and I have never installed it. What protocol does it
use under the covers, is it something proprietary to multinet? Could I get
the DECbrouter I bought recently to interoperate with your side? If it is
not too hard I could try implementing Multinet interop in my user mode
router.
Regards
Rob
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf
Of Steve Davidson
Sent: 22 September 2013 11:43
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct
If you decide to use Multinet and have access to a dynamic DNS name, then I
can link SG1:: to it via the SW at this end. It is completely automated.
If we can manage to install Multinet on GORVAX:: then the links would be
even faster.
-Steve
_____
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Mark Wickens
Sent: Sat 9/21/2013 16:18
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct
On 21/09/2013 21:12, Robert Jarratt wrote:
I am hoping to connect to HECnet from the DEC Legacy event in October,
hopefully connecting a few interesting systems to HECnet and allowing
attendees to explore HECnet.
I would be using a USB 3G device to do this, so I wouldn't know my IP until
the day itself. Is there anyone with a bridge on HECnet who would be
available during UK daytime on those days to configure their bridge to peer
with me? There may be more than one change of IP address over the course of
the weekend though.
Are there any other options?
Thanks
Rob
Rob,
Obviously I will have my home bridge going, so maybe we can keep this
in-house with a bit of experimentation? I think this is maybe what I did
last time, I really can't remember but it makes a lot of sense and it does
shake my memory a bit!
Mark.
Steve,
I'm out of the country and the new GORVAX is running UCX, not MULTINET :(
It was crashing all the time for some odd reason. I suggest he links to SG1..
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 22 Sep 2013, at 12:42, Steve Davidson <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
If you decide to use Multinet and have access to a dynamic DNS name, then I can link SG1:: to it via the SW at this end. It is completely automated. If we can manage to install Multinet on GORVAX:: then the links would be even faster.
-Steve
________________________________
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Mark Wickens
Sent: Sat 9/21/2013 16:18
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct
On 21/09/2013 21:12, Robert Jarratt wrote:
I am hoping to connect to HECnet from the DEC Legacy event in October, hopefully connecting a few interesting systems to HECnet and allowing attendees to explore HECnet.
I would be using a USB 3G device to do this, so I wouldn't know my IP until the day itself. Is there anyone with a bridge on HECnet who would be available during UK daytime on those days to configure their bridge to peer with me? There may be more than one change of IP address over the course of the weekend though.
Are there any other options?
Thanks
Rob
Rob,
Obviously I will have my home bridge going, so maybe we can keep this in-house with a bit of experimentation? I think this is maybe what I did last time, I really can't remember but it makes a lot of sense and it does shake my memory a bit!
Mark.
<winmail.dat>
If you decide to use Multinet and have access to a dynamic DNS name, then I can link SG1:: to it via the SW at this end. It is completely automated. If we can manage to install Multinet on GORVAX:: then the links would be even faster.
-Steve
________________________________
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Mark Wickens
Sent: Sat 9/21/2013 16:18
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct
On 21/09/2013 21:12, Robert Jarratt wrote:
I am hoping to connect to HECnet from the DEC Legacy event in October, hopefully connecting a few interesting systems to HECnet and allowing attendees to explore HECnet.
I would be using a USB 3G device to do this, so I wouldn't know my IP until the day itself. Is there anyone with a bridge on HECnet who would be available during UK daytime on those days to configure their bridge to peer with me? There may be more than one change of IP address over the course of the weekend though.
Are there any other options?
Thanks
Rob
Rob,
Obviously I will have my home bridge going, so maybe we can keep this in-house with a bit of experimentation? I think this is maybe what I did last time, I really can't remember but it makes a lot of sense and it does shake my memory a bit!
Mark.
Hello!
I'll say he does.
-----
And then you realize you're sharing space with 18 Yetis and 9 cats of
an unusual pedigree.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 09/21/2013 07:26 PM, Lee Gleason wrote:
Whew - that was quick . Glad to let ya have 'em - I'd have offered them
to you privately first, but I thought you were getting cramped for space
too.
Nope. I got tired of that problem and bought a 14,000 square foot
building. Life's too short!
It's true that I'm trying to get rid of some hardware, but only to
tighten my focus for the museum. I have a few Sun Fire 6800s and
similar "too old to run, too new to collect" machines that I'd like to
re-home.
I'll ship them in next week and let you know the amount (shouldn't be
much for a few cards) and you can just Paypal me the money if that's
convenient for you - or send a check, whatever you find most convenient.
All the same to me.
Sounds good, thanks! PayPal works for me too. (I haven't used paper
checks in years!) I'll send you my shipping address off-list.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hello!
Dave can have them Lee, this is one collection I do not need, sadly.
-----
**Pow!! Zap!!** And you Dave hear the sounds of six very unhappy Yeti
as you sit there in the dark for twenty minutes do to a blown standby
circuit. (Power)
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 09/21/2013 07:11 PM, Lee Gleason wrote:
I m thinning my collection a bit due to moving in to a smaller space.
Anyone have any use for some VAX-11/730 cards? I have
3 M8394
1 M8391
1 M8390
Condition unknown worked last time I used em, but that was a goodly
number of years ago.
Available for cost of shipping.
I'll take 'em! I'd like to have them for spares for my 11/730.
Assuming nobody has beat me to the punch, what's the best way to pay you?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 09/21/2013 07:26 PM, Lee Gleason wrote:
Whew - that was quick . Glad to let ya have 'em - I'd have offered them
to you privately first, but I thought you were getting cramped for space
too.
Nope. I got tired of that problem and bought a 14,000 square foot
building. Life's too short!
It's true that I'm trying to get rid of some hardware, but only to
tighten my focus for the museum. I have a few Sun Fire 6800s and
similar "too old to run, too new to collect" machines that I'd like to
re-home.
I'll ship them in next week and let you know the amount (shouldn't be
much for a few cards) and you can just Paypal me the money if that's
convenient for you - or send a check, whatever you find most convenient.
All the same to me.
Sounds good, thanks! PayPal works for me too. (I haven't used paper
checks in years!) I'll send you my shipping address off-list.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Whew - that was quick . Glad to let ya have 'em - I'd have offered them to you privately first, but I thought you were getting cramped for space too.
I'll ship them in next week and let you know the amount (shouldn't be much for a few cards) and you can just Paypal me the money if that's convenient for you - or send a check, whatever you find most convenient. All the same to me.
-----Original Message----- From: Dave McGuire
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:17 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Surplus cards
On 09/21/2013 07:11 PM, Lee Gleason wrote:
I m thinning my collection a bit due to moving in to a smaller space.
Anyone have any use for some VAX-11/730 cards? I have
3 M8394
1 M8391
1 M8390
Condition unknown worked last time I used em, but that was a goodly
number of years ago.
Available for cost of shipping.
I'll take 'em! I'd like to have them for spares for my 11/730.
Assuming nobody has beat me to the punch, what's the best way to pay you?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 09/21/2013 07:11 PM, Lee Gleason wrote:
I m thinning my collection a bit due to moving in to a smaller space.
Anyone have any use for some VAX-11/730 cards? I have
3 M8394
1 M8391
1 M8390
Condition unknown worked last time I used em, but that was a goodly
number of years ago.
Available for cost of shipping.
I'll take 'em! I'd like to have them for spares for my 11/730.
Assuming nobody has beat me to the punch, what's the best way to pay you?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA