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Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct

by drb＠msu.edu

I would be using a USB 3G device to do this, so I wouldn't know my IP until the day itself. Is there anyone with a bridge on HECnet who would be available during UK daytime on those days to configure their bridge to peer with me? There may be more than one change of IP address over the course of the weekend though. Honestly, the "easy" way to do this is to set up a VPN such that your event site LAN is more or less bridged to someone's existing LAN that contains DECNET hosts. This solves the problems that are toughest: moving IP assignment, address translation, port translation, etc. Since the VPN typically uses public key stuff for auth, you don't need to fiddle with ip address restrictions, the client connects to the uplink point when things change, etc. Eliminates config changes in bridges, multinet stubbornness about a single predefined port number for both ends, various stupid injected by devices that barely understand TCP ports other than 80, much less non-IP protocols, etc. One of the Area 18 sites is "permanently" connected this way. I can probably contribute config hints if the router/firewall/vpn technology is a linux box. De

12 years, 4 months

Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

:-) On 09/22/2013 10:04 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: I'm building one the moment SIMH v4 comes out :) sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +358 40 7208932 On 23 Sep 2013, at 04:03, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: I'd use that in a cafe' in a heartbeat. -Dave On 09/22/2013 10:02 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: That would be pretty nifty - build a laptop that runs Linux, starts SIMH from init and runs with graphics. A VaxBook if you will. sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +358 40 7208932 On 23 Sep 2013, at 04:00, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 09/22/2013 09:43 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: Speaking of SIMH v4, I came across this in github: Add sim_video and VAX QVSS (VCB01) Monochrome Video Board from Matt Burke Does this mean we'll get a graphical version of SIMH VAX? That has been in the works for some time. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 4 months

Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct

by sampsa＠mac.com

I'm building one the moment SIMH v4 comes out :) sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +358 40 7208932 On 23 Sep 2013, at 04:03, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: I'd use that in a cafe' in a heartbeat. -Dave On 09/22/2013 10:02 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: That would be pretty nifty - build a laptop that runs Linux, starts SIMH from init and runs with graphics. A VaxBook if you will. sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +358 40 7208932 On 23 Sep 2013, at 04:00, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 09/22/2013 09:43 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: Speaking of SIMH v4, I came across this in github: Add sim_video and VAX QVSS (VCB01) Monochrome Video Board from Matt Burke Does this mean we'll get a graphical version of SIMH VAX? That has been in the works for some time. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 4 months

Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

I'd use that in a cafe' in a heartbeat. -Dave On 09/22/2013 10:02 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: That would be pretty nifty - build a laptop that runs Linux, starts SIMH from init and runs with graphics. A VaxBook if you will. sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +358 40 7208932 On 23 Sep 2013, at 04:00, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 09/22/2013 09:43 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: Speaking of SIMH v4, I came across this in github: Add sim_video and VAX QVSS (VCB01) Monochrome Video Board from Matt Burke Does this mean we'll get a graphical version of SIMH VAX? That has been in the works for some time. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 4 months

Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct

by sampsa＠mac.com

That would be pretty nifty - build a laptop that runs Linux, starts SIMH from init and runs with graphics. A VaxBook if you will. sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +358 40 7208932 On 23 Sep 2013, at 04:00, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 09/22/2013 09:43 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: Speaking of SIMH v4, I came across this in github: Add sim_video and VAX QVSS (VCB01) Monochrome Video Board from Matt Burke Does this mean we'll get a graphical version of SIMH VAX? That has been in the works for some time. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 4 months

Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 09/22/2013 09:43 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: Speaking of SIMH v4, I came across this in github: Add sim_video and VAX QVSS (VCB01) Monochrome Video Board from Matt Burke Does this mean we'll get a graphical version of SIMH VAX? That has been in the works for some time. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 4 months

Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct

by sampsa＠mac.com

sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +358 40 7208932 On 23 Sep 2013, at 03:05, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote: It's hard to describe Multinet with words that are printable. It was designed by fools who never bothered to understand the DECnet architecture specifications and were utterly clueless about competent protocol design. Avoid it if at all possible. GRE tunneling is a good answer. (So is SIMH DMC emulation, if both ends can speak it.) Speaking of SIMH v4, I came across this in github: Add sim_video and VAX QVSS (VCB01) Monochrome Video Board from Matt Burke Does this mean we'll get a graphical version of SIMH VAX? sampsa

12 years, 4 months

Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

It's hard to describe Multinet with words that are printable. It was designed by fools who never bothered to understand the DECnet architecture specifications and were utterly clueless about competent protocol design. Avoid it if at all possible. GRE tunneling is a good answer. (So is SIMH DMC emulation, if both ends can speak it.) paul On Sep 22, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Robert Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com<mailto:robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>> wrote: I don t have multinet and I have never installed it. What protocol does it use under the covers, is it something proprietary to multinet? Could I get the DECbrouter I bought recently to interoperate with your side? If it is not too hard I could try implementing Multinet interop in my user mode router. Regards Rob From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE> [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>] On Behalf Of Steve Davidson Sent: 22 September 2013 11:43 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE> Subject: RE: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct If you decide to use Multinet and have access to a dynamic DNS name, then I can link SG1:: to it via the SW at this end. It is completely automated. If we can manage to install Multinet on GORVAX:: then the links would be even faster. -Steve ________________________________ From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE> on behalf of Mark Wickens Sent: Sat 9/21/2013 16:18 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE<mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE> Subject: Re: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct On 21/09/2013 21:12, Robert Jarratt wrote: I am hoping to connect to HECnet from the DEC Legacy event in October, hopefully connecting a few interesting systems to HECnet and allowing attendees to explore HECnet. I would be using a USB 3G device to do this, so I wouldn t know my IP until the day itself. Is there anyone with a bridge on HECnet who would be available during UK daytime on those days to configure their bridge to peer with me? There may be more than one change of IP address over the course of the weekend though. Are there any other options? Thanks Rob Rob, Obviously I will have my home bridge going, so maybe we can keep this in-house with a bit of experimentation? I think this is maybe what I did last time, I really can't remember but it makes a lot of sense and it does shake my memory a bit! Mark.

12 years, 4 months

Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

If you want to use the GRE tunnels I can give you access to the db to update your IP. -brian On Sep 22, 2013, at 16:18, "Robert Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote: I don't have multinet and I have never installed it. What protocol does it use under the covers, is it something proprietary to multinet? Could I get the DECbrouter I bought recently to interoperate with your side? If it is not too hard I could try implementing Multinet interop in my user mode router. Regards Rob From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Steve Davidson Sent: 22 September 2013 11:43 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: RE: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct If you decide to use Multinet and have access to a dynamic DNS name, then I can link SG1:: to it via the SW at this end. It is completely automated. If we can manage to install Multinet on GORVAX:: then the links would be even faster. -Steve _____ From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Mark Wickens Sent: Sat 9/21/2013 16:18 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct On 21/09/2013 21:12, Robert Jarratt wrote: I am hoping to connect to HECnet from the DEC Legacy event in October, hopefully connecting a few interesting systems to HECnet and allowing attendees to explore HECnet. I would be using a USB 3G device to do this, so I wouldn't know my IP until the day itself. Is there anyone with a bridge on HECnet who would be available during UK daytime on those days to configure their bridge to peer with me? There may be more than one change of IP address over the course of the weekend though. Are there any other options? Thanks Rob Rob, Obviously I will have my home bridge going, so maybe we can keep this in-house with a bit of experimentation? I think this is maybe what I did last time, I really can't remember but it makes a lot of sense and it does shake my memory a bit! Mark. <winmail.dat>

12 years, 4 months

Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

I don't have multinet and I have never installed it. What protocol does it use under the covers, is it something proprietary to multinet? Could I get the DECbrouter I bought recently to interoperate with your side? If it is not too hard I could try implementing Multinet interop in my user mode router. Regards Rob From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Steve Davidson Sent: 22 September 2013 11:43 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: RE: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct If you decide to use Multinet and have access to a dynamic DNS name, then I can link SG1:: to it via the SW at this end. It is completely automated. If we can manage to install Multinet on GORVAX:: then the links would be even faster. -Steve _____ From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Mark Wickens Sent: Sat 9/21/2013 16:18 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Connecting to HECnet from DEC Legacy 19-20 Oct On 21/09/2013 21:12, Robert Jarratt wrote: I am hoping to connect to HECnet from the DEC Legacy event in October, hopefully connecting a few interesting systems to HECnet and allowing attendees to explore HECnet. I would be using a USB 3G device to do this, so I wouldn't know my IP until the day itself. Is there anyone with a bridge on HECnet who would be available during UK daytime on those days to configure their bridge to peer with me? There may be more than one change of IP address over the course of the weekend though. Are there any other options? Thanks Rob Rob, Obviously I will have my home bridge going, so maybe we can keep this in-house with a bit of experimentation? I think this is maybe what I did last time, I really can't remember but it makes a lot of sense and it does shake my memory a bit! Mark.

12 years, 4 months

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