yOn Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Daniel Soderstrom wrote:
Lighter???
FWIW, you'd be much better off running the latest and greatest on your VAX
hardware to take advantage of the performance features contained within
VMS 3
0.9 million lines of code
VMS 5.4
6.5 million lines of code
VMS 7.1
25 million lines of code
I'd like to go back to 5.5H4 and avoid the bloat from OO programming. I was given advice previously that 6.3 is best for old VAX's.
I think I have a copy or 3 of an image of 5.5 laying around.
Daniel
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Lighter???
FWIW, you'd be much better off running the latest and greatest on your VAX
hardware to take advantage of the performance features contained within
VMS 3
0.9 million lines of code
VMS 5.4
6.5 million lines of code
VMS 7.1
25 million lines of code
I'd like to go back to 5.5H4 and avoid the bloat from OO programming. I was given advice previously that 6.3 is best for old VAX's.
Daniel
Hello!
Indeed not. That's what we were discussing. And to obtain SDSL service
would require those new clean wires. And then I realized I should
stick with what I have for the moment.
Meanwhile the local-loop provider is still unhappy at allow a cage to
rented to the vendor for hardware to produce such a service and to
send it to me. I don't know (and don't want to know) how many other
customers they have in my area.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-10-06 22:12, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
And what service are you (putting up with) working with, or
subscribing to? Mine is a DSL service provider named Megapath. And
that's more or less what the good people there told me.
I guess you are not getting anywhere near 40 Gbit/s on that. Knowing Peter I
would not be surprised if that was symmetrical, in addition...
Johnny
AT&T's crappy (yet reliable) DSL service.
Incidentally what I am getting is fairly close to business class for
them. For what they consider to be business class it gets bumped up to
something resembling the WAN or wide area networking experiments.
(Visit their site for clues and things.)
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
In this country to have a static IP address over copper requires
practically new wiring from the Central Office to the Customer. And it
depends on the vendor.
No new wiring is needed here. I just need to pay them to migrate to
business class...that's the cost of the setup fee. $75 for them to push
buttons.
That came up about two to three years ago here, perhaps as late as last
year.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se>
wrote:
On 2013-10-06 10:51, Daniel Soderstrom wrote:
Why not just get a static IP? Kiddies are pirating so much that
for the
same $ I sacrificed 100gb but got unmetered uploads and ANNEX M. That
still
leaves me with 100GB. How much do you need?
I don't think $ is Peters main concern. Nor speed. This from 6 years
ago...
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/webguide/Internetlife/2007-07-19-swedis…
Johnny
Daniel
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Oct 2013, at 4:37 pm, Peter Lothberg <roll at Stupi.SE> wrote:
Are the scripts not running?
Scripts?
Brian's scripts that push out new configs upon IP change.
I don't have brians scripts, and I'm using a config tool based on
netconf/yang to configure my routers. A Yang model for HECNet,
anyone?
Meanwhile, if anyone need me to change a tunel on a box I hapens to
operate, send me a email with the needed info.
(Why do addresses change? T10 nor T20 speak DHCP or ND?)
-P
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 2013-10-06 22:12, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
And what service are you (putting up with) working with, or
subscribing to? Mine is a DSL service provider named Megapath. And
that's more or less what the good people there told me.
I guess you are not getting anywhere near 40 Gbit/s on that. Knowing Peter I would not be surprised if that was symmetrical, in addition...
Johnny
AT&T's crappy (yet reliable) DSL service.
Incidentally what I am getting is fairly close to business class for
them. For what they consider to be business class it gets bumped up to
something resembling the WAN or wide area networking experiments.
(Visit their site for clues and things.)
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
In this country to have a static IP address over copper requires
practically new wiring from the Central Office to the Customer. And it
depends on the vendor.
No new wiring is needed here. I just need to pay them to migrate to
business class...that's the cost of the setup fee. $75 for them to push
buttons.
That came up about two to three years ago here, perhaps as late as last
year.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se>
wrote:
On 2013-10-06 10:51, Daniel Soderstrom wrote:
Why not just get a static IP? Kiddies are pirating so much that
for the
same $ I sacrificed 100gb but got unmetered uploads and ANNEX M. That
still
leaves me with 100GB. How much do you need?
I don't think $ is Peters main concern. Nor speed. This from 6 years
ago...
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/webguide/Internetlife/2007-07-19-swedis…
Johnny
Daniel
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Oct 2013, at 4:37 pm, Peter Lothberg <roll at Stupi.SE> wrote:
Are the scripts not running?
Scripts?
Brian's scripts that push out new configs upon IP change.
I don't have brians scripts, and I'm using a config tool based on
netconf/yang to configure my routers. A Yang model for HECNet,
anyone?
Meanwhile, if anyone need me to change a tunel on a box I hapens to
operate, send me a email with the needed info.
(Why do addresses change? T10 nor T20 speak DHCP or ND?)
-P
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
And what service are you (putting up with) working with, or
subscribing to? Mine is a DSL service provider named Megapath. And
that's more or less what the good people there told me.
AT&T's crappy (yet reliable) DSL service.
Incidentally what I am getting is fairly close to business class for
them. For what they consider to be business class it gets bumped up to
something resembling the WAN or wide area networking experiments.
(Visit their site for clues and things.)
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
In this country to have a static IP address over copper requires
practically new wiring from the Central Office to the Customer. And it
depends on the vendor.
No new wiring is needed here. I just need to pay them to migrate to
business class...that's the cost of the setup fee. $75 for them to push
buttons.
That came up about two to three years ago here, perhaps as late as last
year.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-10-06 10:51, Daniel Soderstrom wrote:
Why not just get a static IP? Kiddies are pirating so much that for the
same $ I sacrificed 100gb but got unmetered uploads and ANNEX M. That
still
leaves me with 100GB. How much do you need?
I don't think $ is Peters main concern. Nor speed. This from 6 years
ago...
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/webguide/Internetlife/2007-07-19-swedis…
Johnny
Daniel
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Oct 2013, at 4:37 pm, Peter Lothberg <roll at Stupi.SE> wrote:
Are the scripts not running?
Scripts?
Brian's scripts that push out new configs upon IP change.
I don't have brians scripts, and I'm using a config tool based on
netconf/yang to configure my routers. A Yang model for HECNet, anyone?
Meanwhile, if anyone need me to change a tunel on a box I hapens to
operate, send me a email with the needed info.
(Why do addresses change? T10 nor T20 speak DHCP or ND?)
-P
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On 2013-10-06 22:10, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 6 Oct 2013, at 21:11, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
I think I've seen VT340s for something like $300-$500 approx. Refurbished. Less if just used.
That borderline doable - it's more than I've paid for most of DEC gear lol..
Saw a used VT340 on on ebay for $200 just a few days ago.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 6 Oct 2013, at 21:11, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
I think I've seen VT340s for something like $300-$500 approx. Refurbished. Less if just used.
That borderline doable - it's more than I've paid for most of DEC gear lol..
Hello!
And what service are you (putting up with) working with, or
subscribing to? Mine is a DSL service provider named Megapath. And
that's more or less what the good people there told me.
Incidentally what I am getting is fairly close to business class for
them. For what they consider to be business class it gets bumped up to
something resembling the WAN or wide area networking experiments.
(Visit their site for clues and things.)
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
In this country to have a static IP address over copper requires
practically new wiring from the Central Office to the Customer. And it
depends on the vendor.
No new wiring is needed here. I just need to pay them to migrate to
business class...that's the cost of the setup fee. $75 for them to push
buttons.
That came up about two to three years ago here, perhaps as late as last
year.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-10-06 10:51, Daniel Soderstrom wrote:
Why not just get a static IP? Kiddies are pirating so much that for the
same $ I sacrificed 100gb but got unmetered uploads and ANNEX M. That
still
leaves me with 100GB. How much do you need?
I don't think $ is Peters main concern. Nor speed. This from 6 years
ago...
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/webguide/Internetlife/2007-07-19-swedis…
Johnny
Daniel
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Oct 2013, at 4:37 pm, Peter Lothberg <roll at Stupi.SE> wrote:
Are the scripts not running?
Scripts?
Brian's scripts that push out new configs upon IP change.
I don't have brians scripts, and I'm using a config tool based on
netconf/yang to configure my routers. A Yang model for HECNet, anyone?
Meanwhile, if anyone need me to change a tunel on a box I hapens to
operate, send me a email with the needed info.
(Why do addresses change? T10 nor T20 speak DHCP or ND?)
-P
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
In this country to have a static IP address over copper requires
practically new wiring from the Central Office to the Customer. And it
depends on the vendor.
No new wiring is needed here. I just need to pay them to migrate to business class...that's the cost of the setup fee. $75 for them to push buttons.
That came up about two to three years ago here, perhaps as late as last year.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-10-06 10:51, Daniel Soderstrom wrote:
Why not just get a static IP? Kiddies are pirating so much that for the
same $ I sacrificed 100gb but got unmetered uploads and ANNEX M. That still
leaves me with 100GB. How much do you need?
I don't think $ is Peters main concern. Nor speed. This from 6 years ago...
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/webguide/Internetlife/2007-07-19-swedis…
Johnny
Daniel
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Oct 2013, at 4:37 pm, Peter Lothberg <roll at Stupi.SE> wrote:
Are the scripts not running?
Scripts?
Brian's scripts that push out new configs upon IP change.
I don't have brians scripts, and I'm using a config tool based on
netconf/yang to configure my routers. A Yang model for HECNet, anyone?
Meanwhile, if anyone need me to change a tunel on a box I hapens to
operate, send me a email with the needed info.
(Why do addresses change? T10 nor T20 speak DHCP or ND?)
-P
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Hello!
I can see why. My (late) father was also a late attraction to the
Internet. He got online call it late in the period, whereas my brother
and I, had been making use of everything online even before the
Internet was officially available. In fact I had heard about, and
downloaded a copy of E11 from a now defunct service, who obtained a
gateway for itself fairly late. As to how the copy of E11 landed
there, I didn't know then, and I'm nowhere closer.
Incidentally dad would use the Internet to badger us via e-mail, and
to send me copies of Powerpoint animations that a fellow historical
plane fan would put together.
In fact he was quite pleased with what I had accomplished with
everything. My brother less so, and my (older) sister more so, my
(younger) sister not at all.
Peter I'm impressed.
Incidentally in this country the copper wire that holds the phone
connections together is seriously disintegrating and the phone
companies are doing even less then that to maintain them. They're
slowly moving towards fiber-optic stuff, and the cable TV ones don't
like that either.
In this country to have a static IP address over copper requires
practically new wiring from the Central Office to the Customer. And it
depends on the vendor.
That came up about two to three years ago here, perhaps as late as last year.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-10-06 10:51, Daniel Soderstrom wrote:
Why not just get a static IP? Kiddies are pirating so much that for the
same $ I sacrificed 100gb but got unmetered uploads and ANNEX M. That still
leaves me with 100GB. How much do you need?
I don't think $ is Peters main concern. Nor speed. This from 6 years ago...
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/webguide/Internetlife/2007-07-19-swedis…
Johnny
Daniel
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Oct 2013, at 4:37 pm, Peter Lothberg <roll at Stupi.SE> wrote:
Are the scripts not running?
Scripts?
Brian's scripts that push out new configs upon IP change.
I don't have brians scripts, and I'm using a config tool based on
netconf/yang to configure my routers. A Yang model for HECNet, anyone?
Meanwhile, if anyone need me to change a tunel on a box I hapens to
operate, send me a email with the needed info.
(Why do addresses change? T10 nor T20 speak DHCP or ND?)
-P
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
