I wasn't referring to Peter! (why is there a drone hovering above my house? Jag har inte gjort n got fel!)
:)
Daniel.
On 07/10/2013, at 3:20 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-10-06 10:51, Daniel Soderstrom wrote:
Why not just get a static IP? Kiddies are pirating so much that for the same $ I sacrificed 100gb but got unmetered uploads and ANNEX M. That still leaves me with 100GB. How much do you need?
I don't think $ is Peters main concern. Nor speed. This from 6 years ago...
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/webguide/Internetlife/2007-07-19-swedis…
Johnny
Daniel
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Oct 2013, at 4:37 pm, Peter Lothberg <roll at Stupi.SE> wrote:
Are the scripts not running?
Scripts?
Brian's scripts that push out new configs upon IP change.
I don't have brians scripts, and I'm using a config tool based on
netconf/yang to configure my routers. A Yang model for HECNet, anyone?
Meanwhile, if anyone need me to change a tunel on a box I hapens to
operate, send me a email with the needed info.
(Why do addresses change? T10 nor T20 speak DHCP or ND?)
-P
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I've just managed to break 'em even further!
$ mc authorize
%DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image AUTHORIZE
-CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file
MOIRA$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]AUTHORIZE.EXE;
-RMS-E-ACC, ACP file access failed
-SYSTEM-F-EXQUOTA, process quota exceeded
I take it bytlm=0 isn't infinite?
Correct. You can not declare INFINITE BYTLM because non-page pool is not
infinite (nor is real memory, for that matter).
That would make perfect sense. I wouldn't mind infinite memory, though.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
yOn Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Daniel Soderstrom <snaggs at mac.com> writes:
=20
Lighter???
=20
FWIW, you'd be much better off running the latest and greatest on your VAX=
hardware to take advantage of the performance features contained within=20=
VMS 3
0.9 million lines of code
VMS 5.4
6.5 million lines of code
VMS 7.1
25 million lines of code
I'd like to go back to 5.5H4 and avoid the bloat from OO programming. I was g=
iven advice previously that 6.3 is best for old VAX's.=20
OO! ROTFLMFA0!
OpenVMS may be written in about 8 different languages but I'm fairly sure
none are OO...except MAYBE the few C++ bits according to Wikipedia.
Mostly BLiss and Macro in the kernel. There's Fortran, Pascal, C and others
which were using in many libraries and utilities. The late Larry Kilgallen,
whose humor and wit I sincerely miss, wrote much of the security code in Ada.
Ada? I can imagine he does have an interesting sense of humour. ;)
Had. :(
Aww. :(
At one ZKO meeting, he and another fellow (I know his name but will elide
it from discussion here) had a battle of wits and I left, the room, as I
remember, in tears from laughter.
Explain further. ;)
FWIW, the SECURITY_SERVER in VMS is mostly Larry's handiwork.
Neat.
Back to the theme of this thread: Don't confuse the volume of source with
the efficiency of the code.
Exactly.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I've just managed to break 'em even further!
$ mc authorize
%DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image AUTHORIZE
-CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file
MOIRA$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]AUTHORIZE.EXE;
-RMS-E-ACC, ACP file access failed
-SYSTEM-F-EXQUOTA, process quota exceeded
I take it bytlm=0 isn't infinite?
Correct. You can not declare INFINITE BYTLM because non-page pool is not
infinite (nor is real memory, for that matter).
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I've just managed to break 'em even further!
$ mc authorize
%DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image AUTHORIZE
-CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file MOIRA$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]AUTHORIZE.EXE;
-RMS-E-ACC, ACP file access failed
-SYSTEM-F-EXQUOTA, process quota exceeded
I take it bytlm=0 isn't infinite?
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
yOn Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Daniel Soderstrom <snaggs at mac.com> writes:
=20
Lighter???
=20
FWIW, you'd be much better off running the latest and greatest on your VAX=
hardware to take advantage of the performance features contained within=20=
VMS 3
0.9 million lines of code
VMS 5.4
6.5 million lines of code
VMS 7.1
25 million lines of code
I'd like to go back to 5.5H4 and avoid the bloat from OO programming. I was g=
iven advice previously that 6.3 is best for old VAX's.=20
OO! ROTFLMFA0!
OpenVMS may be written in about 8 different languages but I'm fairly sure
none are OO...except MAYBE the few C++ bits according to Wikipedia.
Mostly BLiss and Macro in the kernel. There's Fortran, Pascal, C and others
which were using in many libraries and utilities. The late Larry Kilgallen,
whose humor and wit I sincerely miss, wrote much of the security code in Ada.
Ada? I can imagine he does have an interesting sense of humour. ;)
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
yOn Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Daniel Soderstrom <snaggs at mac.com> writes:
=20
Lighter???
=20
FWIW, you'd be much better off running the latest and greatest on your VAX=
hardware to take advantage of the performance features contained within=20=
VMS 3
0.9 million lines of code
VMS 5.4
6.5 million lines of code
VMS 7.1
25 million lines of code
I'd like to go back to 5.5H4 and avoid the bloat from OO programming. I was g=
iven advice previously that 6.3 is best for old VAX's.=20
OO! ROTFLMFA0!
OpenVMS may be written in about 8 different languages but I'm fairly sure none are OO...except MAYBE the few C++ bits according to Wikipedia.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On 10/06/2013 06:36 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote:
"Peter Lothberg, who is a networking expert,"
I'd say that's the understatement of the year. :)
Yes. That's like saying "Stephen Hawking occasionally dabbles in
science".
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
it's a common problem. my favorite statistic like this is the boot loader for the 3b2 (which ran a flavor sys v.3) is larger than the v6 and v7 kernels. shameful IMHO
that said while I agree the OSes can bloat my experience is that many of us are unwilling to go back to the same "old system" for anything in production use and unfortunately their is the additional problem is there is rarely an agreement among us as to which of those new features from the bloated ones are the required ones.
what I have seen work to a limited extend is to create a new system with learnings over time and try to inject a new stronger strain into the Eco system. this was what Culter was trying do with Mica for vms. but being able to carry old binaries gets very hard.
Clem
On Oct 6, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Daniel Soderstrom <snaggs at mac.com> wrote:
Lighter???
FWIW, you'd be much better off running the latest and greatest on your VAX
hardware to take advantage of the performance features contained within
VMS 3
0.9 million lines of code
VMS 5.4
6.5 million lines of code
VMS 7.1
25 million lines of code
I'd like to go back to 5.5H4 and avoid the bloat from OO programming. I was given advice previously that 6.3 is best for old VAX's.
Daniel
"Peter Lothberg, who is a networking expert,"
I'd say that's the understatement of the year. :)
-brian
On Oct 6, 2013, at 15:20, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-10-06 10:51, Daniel Soderstrom wrote:
Why not just get a static IP? Kiddies are pirating so much that for the same $ I sacrificed 100gb but got unmetered uploads and ANNEX M. That still leaves me with 100GB. How much do you need?
I don't think $ is Peters main concern. Nor speed. This from 6 years ago...
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/webguide/Internetlife/2007-07-19-swedis…
Johnny
Daniel
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Oct 2013, at 4:37 pm, Peter Lothberg <roll at Stupi.SE> wrote:
Are the scripts not running?
Scripts?
Brian's scripts that push out new configs upon IP change.
I don't have brians scripts, and I'm using a config tool based on
netconf/yang to configure my routers. A Yang model for HECNet, anyone?
Meanwhile, if anyone need me to change a tunel on a box I hapens to
operate, send me a email with the needed info.
(Why do addresses change? T10 nor T20 speak DHCP or ND?)
-P
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
