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Quiet list and a question about setting up a system

by bqt＠softjar.se

Mike Shields wrote: Well, since the long period of nothing has been broken, I guess I'll take the opportunity to ride along on the burst. I've got a KLH10 TOPS-20 system up on my local network, (Panda distribution) and have several machines that could serve as a router. Fun. Not that many T20 machines on the net so far. Bring 'em on! :-) I'm not sure how much traffic gets routed, but I've got a decent amount of bandwidth available as well. As an endnode, you don't see that much traffic. Mostly the hello broadcasts that occur regularly. So how do I get started with the node numbers and what-not? Just talk to me and tell me what you want/need. In short you need to allocate a node number. For that you first need to figure out in which area you'll live, and then talk with the person responsible for that area. If nothing else, I can put you in area 1, which I handle. A node name is nice to allocate globally, although not technically required. I try to keep an up-to-date list here. You also need to figure out where to connect to, "physically". That is, which remote machine will you talk to, and using which protocol. There are several options. Most people either use a VMS machine as a router, and go through an IP-tunneled connection handled by VMS, or they use my bridge program, which acts just like any bridge. Johnny

17 years, 1 month

Quiet list and a question about setting up a system

by bqt＠softjar.se

Gregg Levine wrote: Hello! Is it me, or is this list suddenly acting like a night out in the country? (Hint, I hear crickets, and I've not seen a post in months.) As others noted, this list is bursty. :-) Okay now the Question: How would I go about configuring a PDP-11 (SimH or E11) to talk to the HECNET? And which OS is prefrered? The answer to your first question depends on the answer to the second one, I'd say. :-) But ethernet is a good start, along with a copy of my bridge program running on some machine, unless you also have some VMS system running as a router on the same ethernet segment. I do not have a router or Cisco designed gizmo who's stable enough to support the protocols that we are discussing here, however. That leaves you just with my bridge program then, I guess. Johnny

17 years, 1 month

Quiet list and a question about setting up a system

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I'm not sure how much traffic gets routed, but I've got a decent amount of bandwidth available as well. I've never really noticed any real hit on my bandwidth. So how do I get started with the node numbers and what-not? Hopefully Johnny will show up sometime soon, he is the central registry for such things. You need to figure out if you just need a node number or two, or an area. Most people don't need an area, and in order to have an area, you need an area router. I suspect most of us have our own areas for historical reasons (i.e. one of our systems was originally in such and such area). Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

17 years, 1 month

Quiet list and a question about setting up a system

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: At 7:54 PM -0400 6/23/08, Gregg Levine wrote: Hello! Is it me, or is this list suddenly acting like a night out in the country? (Hint, I hear crickets, and I've not seen a post in months.) This list tends to be long periods of nothing along with short bursts of traffic. Okay now the Question: How would I go about configuring a PDP-11 (SimH or E11) to talk to the HECNET? And which OS is prefrered? Personally I'd look at E11, but then it has been so long since I played seriously with SIMH that the network support had just been added, and I believe it works pretty good now. SIMH has the advantage of no limitations, but is likely to be the best bet, and it is faster. As for an OS, I'd prefer to see you running RSTS/E, but I don't think that is what you mean! :^) If I were to be serious for a second, I'd have to recommend RSX-11M or RSX-11M+, as their DECnet implementations are considerably less persnickety. Additionally I don't think many people have managed to get DECnet/E running under either E11 or SIMH. But then I had a hard enough time getting it running on real hardware. I do not have a router or Cisco designed gizmo who's stable enough to support the protocols that we are discussing here, however. I'm guessing any old Pentium class would work here. A 486 might not be able to push the data through Johnny's bridge fast enough. I'm not sure that anyone is currently running a Cisco router you could connect to anyway. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | Hello! I was seriously considering Ultrix, it seems that the collection roosting on the TUHS site contains DECNET objects, so that's one. And then the DEC OS you suggested. As for a system, that's TBA. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature was once found posting rude messages in English in the Moscow subway."

17 years, 1 month

Quiet list and a question about setting up a system

by mike＠shieldsworld.com

Well, since the long period of nothing has been broken, I guess I'll take the opportunity to ride along on the burst. I've got a KLH10 TOPS-20 system up on my local network, (Panda distribution) and have several machines that could serve as a router. I'm not sure how much traffic gets routed, but I've got a decent amount of bandwidth available as well. So how do I get started with the node numbers and what-not? --- Mike Shields

17 years, 1 month

Quiet list and a question about setting up a system

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

At 7:54 PM -0400 6/23/08, Gregg Levine wrote: Hello! Is it me, or is this list suddenly acting like a night out in the country? (Hint, I hear crickets, and I've not seen a post in months.) This list tends to be long periods of nothing along with short bursts of traffic. Okay now the Question: How would I go about configuring a PDP-11 (SimH or E11) to talk to the HECNET? And which OS is prefrered? Personally I'd look at E11, but then it has been so long since I played seriously with SIMH that the network support had just been added, and I believe it works pretty good now. SIMH has the advantage of no limitations, but is likely to be the best bet, and it is faster. As for an OS, I'd prefer to see you running RSTS/E, but I don't think that is what you mean! :^) If I were to be serious for a second, I'd have to recommend RSX-11M or RSX-11M+, as their DECnet implementations are considerably less persnickety. Additionally I don't think many people have managed to get DECnet/E running under either E11 or SIMH. But then I had a hard enough time getting it running on real hardware. I do not have a router or Cisco designed gizmo who's stable enough to support the protocols that we are discussing here, however. I'm guessing any old Pentium class would work here. A 486 might not be able to push the data through Johnny's bridge fast enough. I'm not sure that anyone is currently running a Cisco router you could connect to anyway. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

17 years, 1 month

Quiet list and a question about setting up a system

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

Hello! Is it me, or is this list suddenly acting like a night out in the country? (Hint, I hear crickets, and I've not seen a post in months.) Okay now the Question: How would I go about configuring a PDP-11 (SimH or E11) to talk to the HECNET? And which OS is prefrered? I do not have a router or Cisco designed gizmo who's stable enough to support the protocols that we are discussing here, however. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature was once found posting rude messages in English in the Moscow subway."

17 years, 1 month

Major House Cleaning

by john＠guntersville.net

Time has come to clear out a major portion of the stash. At my age I will never get around to all of the projects. The following is a partial listing of what is available. I will add to the list as stuff emerges from the pile. Make offers, cash or trade. Pickup only in Guntersville, AL, USA. mVAX II (BA-23) several mVAX II (BA-123) several various DEC Qbus card cages for PDP-11 power supply, blower and etc for RM-03 The following needs to go to someone that can make them available to the group. A lot of VMS gray wall books A lot of VMS orange wall books A lot of component (IC, diode, transistor) manufacture's data books

17 years, 2 months

Major House Cleaning

by john＠guntersville.net

17 years, 2 months

Zarqon down

by bob＠jfcl.com

The hard part is finding time, work is keeping me way to busy right now. I know what you mean, but I think I prefer to spend my Sunday afternoon trying to fix the DECtape drives on my PDP-8 (even if it won't ever be on HECnet!). Right after I call my Mom, that is. At least in the USA, today is Mother's Day. Bob

17 years, 3 months

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