On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
At 7:54 PM -0400 6/23/08, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Is it me, or is this list suddenly acting like a night out in the
country? (Hint, I hear crickets, and I've not seen a post in months.)
This list tends to be long periods of nothing along with short bursts of
traffic.
Okay now the Question: How would I go about configuring a PDP-11 (SimH
or E11) to talk to the HECNET? And which OS is prefrered?
Personally I'd look at E11, but then it has been so long since I played
seriously with SIMH that the network support had just been added, and I
believe it works pretty good now. SIMH has the advantage of no limitations,
but is likely to be the best bet, and it is faster.
As for an OS, I'd prefer to see you running RSTS/E, but I don't think that
is what you mean! :^) If I were to be serious for a second, I'd have to
recommend RSX-11M or RSX-11M+, as their DECnet implementations are
considerably less persnickety. Additionally I don't think many people have
managed to get DECnet/E running under either E11 or SIMH. But then I had a
hard enough time getting it running on real hardware.
I do not have a router or Cisco designed gizmo who's stable enough to
support the protocols that we are discussing here, however.
I'm guessing any old Pentium class would work here. A 486 might not be able
to push the data through Johnny's bridge fast enough.
I'm not sure that anyone is currently running a Cisco router you could
connect to anyway.
Zane
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Hello!
I was seriously considering Ultrix, it seems that the collection
roosting on the TUHS site contains DECNET objects, so that's one.
And then the DEC OS you suggested. As for a system, that's TBA.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature was once found posting rude
messages in English in the Moscow subway."
Well, since the long period of nothing has been broken, I guess I'll take the opportunity to ride along on the burst. I've got a KLH10 TOPS-20 system up on my local network, (Panda distribution) and have several machines that could serve as a router.
I'm not sure how much traffic gets routed, but I've got a decent amount of bandwidth available as well.
So how do I get started with the node numbers and what-not?
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Mike Shields
At 7:54 PM -0400 6/23/08, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Is it me, or is this list suddenly acting like a night out in the
country? (Hint, I hear crickets, and I've not seen a post in months.)
This list tends to be long periods of nothing along with short bursts of traffic.
Okay now the Question: How would I go about configuring a PDP-11 (SimH
or E11) to talk to the HECNET? And which OS is prefrered?
Personally I'd look at E11, but then it has been so long since I played seriously with SIMH that the network support had just been added, and I believe it works pretty good now. SIMH has the advantage of no limitations, but is likely to be the best bet, and it is faster.
As for an OS, I'd prefer to see you running RSTS/E, but I don't think that is what you mean! :^) If I were to be serious for a second, I'd have to recommend RSX-11M or RSX-11M+, as their DECnet implementations are considerably less persnickety. Additionally I don't think many people have managed to get DECnet/E running under either E11 or SIMH. But then I had a hard enough time getting it running on real hardware.
I do not have a router or Cisco designed gizmo who's stable enough to
support the protocols that we are discussing here, however.
I'm guessing any old Pentium class would work here. A 486 might not be able to push the data through Johnny's bridge fast enough.
I'm not sure that anyone is currently running a Cisco router you could connect to anyway.
Zane
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| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator |
| healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
Hello!
Is it me, or is this list suddenly acting like a night out in the
country? (Hint, I hear crickets, and I've not seen a post in months.)
Okay now the Question: How would I go about configuring a PDP-11 (SimH
or E11) to talk to the HECNET? And which OS is prefrered?
I do not have a router or Cisco designed gizmo who's stable enough to
support the protocols that we are discussing here, however.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature was once found posting rude
messages in English in the Moscow subway."
Time has come to clear out a major portion of the stash. At my
age I will never get around to all of the projects. The
following is a partial listing of what is available. I will add
to the list as stuff emerges from the pile. Make offers, cash
or trade. Pickup only in Guntersville, AL, USA.
mVAX II (BA-23) several
mVAX II (BA-123) several
various DEC Qbus card cages for PDP-11
power supply, blower and etc for RM-03
The following needs to go to someone that can make them available to the
group.
A lot of VMS gray wall books
A lot of VMS orange wall books
A lot of component (IC, diode, transistor) manufacture's data books
Time has come to clear out a major portion of the stash. At my
age I will never get around to all of the projects. The
following is a partial listing of what is available. I will add
to the list as stuff emerges from the pile. Make offers, cash
or trade. Pickup only in Guntersville, AL, USA.
mVAX II (BA-23) several
mVAX II (BA-123) several
various DEC Qbus card cages for PDP-11
power supply, blower and etc for RM-03
The following needs to go to someone that can make them available to the group.
A lot of VMS gray wall books
A lot of VMS orange wall books
A lot of component (IC, diode, transistor) manufacture's data books
The hard part is finding time,
work is keeping me way to busy right now.
I know what you mean, but I think I prefer to spend my Sunday afternoon
trying to fix the DECtape drives on my PDP-8 (even if it won't ever be on
HECnet!).
Right after I call my Mom, that is. At least in the USA, today is
Mother's Day.
Bob
At 7:14 AM -0700 5/11/08, Bob Armstrong wrote:
>It wasn't heat for me, at least not yet. For some reason I blocked
the network port. You're all back on HECnet, sorry about that. I'm
going to claim overwork, which considering when I last modified the
file that could very well be the case.
Yep, looks like it's up again. To be honest, I hadn't even noticed that
the PDXVAX link was down until you mentioned it yesterday. Maybe I should
write a little batch job to alert me if a link is down for more than 24
hours...
One of these days I really want to get V2 of the CGI at http://www.avanthar.com:8080/nodes/ written. The plan is for a database backend, and adding alerts when systems such as LEGATO are inaccessible would be easy enough. The hard part is finding time, work is keeping me way to busy right now.
Zane
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| healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
It wasn't heat for me, at least not yet. For some reason I blocked
the network port. You're all back on HECnet, sorry about that. I'm
going to claim overwork, which considering when I last modified the
file that could very well be the case.
Yep, looks like it's up again. To be honest, I hadn't even noticed that
the PDXVAX link was down until you mentioned it yesterday. Maybe I should
write a little batch job to alert me if a link is down for more than 24
hours...
Thanks,
Bob
At 11:27 AM -0700 5/10/08, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Bob seems to be down, so I'm not bridging the two groups.
Bob is down? Why do you think that?
Because I didn't see LEGATO, and PDXVAX is up.
Right now, I have Multinet connections to SELENE, DUSTY and STUPI. Looks
like the links to ZARQON and PDXVAX are down which, from what you've said,
is not really a surprise.
It wasn't heat for me, at least not yet. For some reason I blocked the network port. You're all back on HECnet, sorry about that. I'm going to claim overwork, which considering when I last modified the file that could very well be the case.
Zane
--
| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator |
| healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |