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by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I brought PDXVAX up just now to discover two different problems, one is that bearings are acting up on one or more of the fans for my VAXstation 4000/vlc, the other is that I need to renew my VAX Hobbyist licenses, as I need a new Multinet license. So, PDXVAX is down for the time being, and I'm starting to wonder about keeping MONK running. I really hate to say this, but it was so nice and quite in our dining room without any VMS boxes running. I hate the idea, but it would be cooler, and quieter to move stuff over to a Mini-ITX box running some form of UNIX. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

16 years, 4 months

PDXVAX and MONK down

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Just a heads up, I'm down for bad weather, and have been since about 2-3am West Coast time. There is a good chance I won't be up until late Friday at the earliest. If Christine is down, this means the Multinet segment isn't talking to the rest of HECnet. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

16 years, 4 months

Quiet list and a question about setting up a system

by christine.caulfield＠googlemail.com

Bob Armstrong wrote: Marc Chametzky wrote: I think this may have changed. When I requested my latest hobbyist licenses about a month ago, a license for DVNETRTG was included along with DVNETEND and DVNETEXT. I can confirm this - when I renewed my Hobbyist VMS licenses in May, DVNETRTG was included in the layered products PAKs. I think enough people must have asked about DVNETRTG that somebody actually fixed it. Thanks, to whoever that somebody may be. Oh that's good to know. I have been using a PAK that I 'borrowed' from my previous-but-4 employer ! -- Chrissie

16 years, 5 months

Quiet list and a question about setting up a system

by bob＠jfcl.com

Marc Chametzky wrote: I think this may have changed. When I requested my latest hobbyist licenses about a month ago, a license for DVNETRTG was included along with DVNETEND and DVNETEXT. I can confirm this - when I renewed my Hobbyist VMS licenses in May, DVNETRTG was included in the layered products PAKs. I think enough people must have asked about DVNETRTG that somebody actually fixed it. Thanks, to whoever that somebody may be. Bob

16 years, 5 months

Quiet list and a question about setting up a system

by christine.caulfield＠googlemail.com

On 25 Jun 2008, at 19:19, Angela Kahealani wrote: I'm new to this... is there an area router software for Linux? I have a Linux box with two NICs, and want to run KLH10 TOPS-20 (which I understand needs its own NIC) and wonder if I can run on the remaining Linux NIC an area router in Linux software? And run the bridge program between DECNET and TCP-IP... and link/route all that to your bridge? or am I barking up the wrong tree? I was hoping to contribute to HECNET as much as possible, adding to its' redundant routing and DECNET-TCP/IP bridging. Being located on the Hawaiian islands, and not knowing any other Hawaiian HECnet nodes, I thought it might be useful as a routing point. The Linux kernel has DECnet routine built into it, it's just a matter of enabling it at boot time or it will default to an end-node. If you need something to fill in the routing tables for areas, then the dnroute daemon can do that for you. None of this is fantastically-well tested though. But it worked for me once ;-) See http://linux-decnet.wiki.sourceforge.net/FAQ2#router If you're running Debian then it's quite easy (I hope!) to edit /etc/defaults/decnet to set up routing. ...let us know how you get one! Chrissie

16 years, 5 months

DECnet/Linux tunnels

by andy＠smokebelch.org

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Christine Caulfield wrote: Bob Armstrong wrote: Christine Caulfield wrote: My Linux nodes seem to talk with your RSX machines quite happily ... well, mostly ... Does DECnet/Linux have any kind of DECnet-over-IP tunneling ability? You should be able to encapsulate DECnet in a GRE tunnel, yes. I don't know anyone who has tried it though! At one time I had a SimH VAX at on my Linux home server, and a real Alpha at my workshop. Each site had an ADSL line and an OpenBSD router, and DECnet via an Ethernet-over-IP tunnel worked fine. I had both systems in a LAVC for a while, but even a show sys/clu was slow, and occasionally the cluster would break for no apparent reason. Andrew

16 years, 5 months

Quiet list and a question about setting up a system

by andy＠smokebelch.org

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Bob Armstrong wrote: I'd quite like to have a go at running an area. Will OpenVMS VAX 7.3 w/corresponding UCX install suffice for tunneling DECnet-over-IP (RFC1006) to other HECnet routers? Don't know the answer to that one, but Bob Armstrong and others do. I hope they'll chime in. Does UCX do DECnet tunneling over IP? AFAIK it has no such feature, but I haven't used it for years. If it does, then I'm afraid I know nothing about it. With Phase V + UCX you can definitely access OSI apps over IP (RFC1006). And I'm pretty sure I had DECnet sessions running over this, but couldn't swear to it. Seems logical though as I recall hazy memories of snippets of NCL configuration. Andrew

16 years, 5 months

Quiet list and a question about setting up a system

by andy＠smokebelch.org

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Marc Chametzky wrote: What you need to be aware of is that the DECnet routing license isn't included in the VMS hobbyist program, so unless you have some other license for that part, you will not be able to actually do this. I think this may have changed. When I requested my latest hobbyist licenses about a month ago, a license for DVNETRTG was included along with DVNETEND and DVNETEXT. Heh, amazing, the folks at HP must have realised that there is a requirement amongst hobbyists for routing DECnet :o) Andrew

16 years, 5 months

Quiet list and a question about setting up a system

by marc＠bluevine.net

What you need to be aware of is that the DECnet routing license isn't included in the VMS hobbyist program, so unless you have some other license for that part, you will not be able to actually do this. I think this may have changed. When I requested my latest hobbyist licenses about a month ago, a license for DVNETRTG was included along with DVNETEND and DVNETEXT. --Marc

16 years, 5 months

Quiet list and a question about setting up a system

by angela＠kahealani.com

On Tue, 2008-06-24 06:40:18 you wrote: Zane H. Healy wrote: I'm not sure how much traffic gets routed, but I've got a decent amount of bandwidth available as well. I've never really noticed any real hit on my bandwidth. So how do I get started with the node numbers and what-not? Hopefully Johnny will show up sometime soon, he is the central registry for such things. You need to figure out if you just need a node number or two, or an area. Most people don't need an area, and in order to have an area, you need an area router. I suspect most of us have our own areas for historical reasons (i.e. one of our systems was originally in such and such area). Right. If anyone wants an area, and have an area router, just say so. There are still plenty of unallocated areas, and I don't really see it as likely that we'll run out of them. Johnny I'm new to this... is there an area router software for Linux? I have a Linux box with two NICs, and want to run KLH10 TOPS-20 (which I understand needs its own NIC) and wonder if I can run on the remaining Linux NIC an area router in Linux software? And run the bridge program between DECNET and TCP-IP... and link/route all that to your bridge? or am I barking up the wrong tree? I was hoping to contribute to HECNET as much as possible, adding to its' redundant routing and DECNET-TCP/IP bridging. Being located on the Hawaiian islands, and not knowing any other Hawaiian HECnet nodes, I thought it might be useful as a routing point. Aloha, Angela Kahealani -- "(I'll) Be Seeing You..." All information and transactions are private between the parties, and are non negotiable. All rights reserve without prejudice Angela Kahealani. http://kahealani.com

16 years, 5 months

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