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by bqt＠softjar.se

Mark, I should make a longer comment when I have some time, but just as a short reply, the information on my page is on the internet, thus it is free. So feel free to duplicate it. More later... Johnny Mark Wickens wrote: Hi Guys, http://hecnet.eu is up and running - not much up there, but there is more to come! Johnny - can I duplicate your information on this site? It's running on an OpenVMS box connected to hecnet, the site is generated using the utility asctohtm to encourage you guys to make a contribution. Asctohtm runs on the VAX and can process very simply formatted ASCII into a nice looking webpage - perfect for adding content by using a VAX/PDP box and then copying it via hecnet onto the target. I'd also like to get a script running to determine the active state of the network, and in the long run a bit of client site charting to produce a network diagram. In the first instance I'd like email suggestions of content please (or you can email me actual content). The idea in the long run is to create a batch job that will scan the decnet default directory and pickup contributions to put on the wall by automatically converting the ascii files into HTML. I'd also like to create an online tutorial/faq to walk people through the basic decnet/bridge setup as well as point out any common issues. Lots of ideas in the pipeline - we did talk about issuing @hecnet.eu email address which would automatically get piped through a SMTP gateway - which would also be very nice. It'd also be nice to get some bios & backgrounds on people using hecnet - sometimes even though it's a big network it can feel a bit lonely! Regards, Mark -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

15 years, 5 months

UK based people - we must go to this (Vintage Computer Festival UK)

by sampsa＠mac.com

Steve, I can see 19.40 (SGC) from GORVAX on the ethernet interface, as you going to run the bridge or MULTINET or both? Sampsa On 31 May 2010, at 23:26, Sampsa Laine wrote: Steve, I just bounced GORVAX, the 19 circuit seems not to be up yet... Sampsa On 31 May 2010, at 14:37, Steve Davidson wrote: Sampsa, It doesn't mention HECnet by name on the website. If you can arrange it, maybe put in a HECnet gateway there. Just the gateway, nothing else. I will commit to bringing all of my systems (and clusters) up for that weekend. None of the machines here are newer than 1993 and that includes the Alpha's. The earliest hardware that can be on the net is circa 1985. Everything here is DEC and only DEC not Compaq and certainly not HP. This means that the only thing that will be available will be actual hardware (from this end). I could (maybe) have up to 15 machines running by then. I can see that electric meter move now - probably faster than it ever has! I can bring up PDP-11's, VAXen, and Alpha's. I did not publish this to the list intentionally. Let me know if I need to be able to bring everything up. Also, all of the various gateways should be stable by then so we can really show something. Maybe show how vintage systems can still communicate in the current world with current hardware. -Steve From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Sampsa Laine Sent: Mon 5/31/2010 08:52 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] UK based people - we must go to this (Vintage Computer Festival UK) Guys, Check this out: http://www.tnmoc.org/vcf-gb.aspx Maybe we could get HECnet involved somehow? Or are we already doing this and I've totally missed the boat on it all? Sampsa

15 years, 5 months

UK based people - we must go to this (Vintage Computer Festival UK)

by sampsa＠mac.com

And that was meant for Mark, not the whole list, so hence the non sequitur nature of the missive. Sampsa On 31 May 2010, at 23:30, Sampsa Laine wrote: Just FYI, my Vodafone 3g dongle DOES work as a dial up GSM modem as well :) Which I think is pretty cool. Sampsa On 31 May 2010, at 21:13, Mark Wickens wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 13:52 +0100, Sampsa Laine wrote: Guys, Check this out: http://www.tnmoc.org/vcf-gb.aspx Maybe we could get HECnet involved somehow? Or are we already doing this and I've totally missed the boat on it all? Sampsa Sampsa, I'll be there demoing some DEC gear - I can up the hecnet heat and see if I can get networked in for the weekend. Regards, Mark.

15 years, 5 months

UK based people - we must go to this (Vintage Computer Festival UK)

by sampsa＠mac.com

Just FYI, my Vodafone 3g dongle DOES work as a dial up GSM modem as well :) Which I think is pretty cool. Sampsa On 31 May 2010, at 21:13, Mark Wickens wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 13:52 +0100, Sampsa Laine wrote: Guys, Check this out: http://www.tnmoc.org/vcf-gb.aspx Maybe we could get HECnet involved somehow? Or are we already doing this and I've totally missed the boat on it all? Sampsa Sampsa, I'll be there demoing some DEC gear - I can up the hecnet heat and see if I can get networked in for the weekend. Regards, Mark.

15 years, 5 months

UK based people - we must go to this (Vintage Computer Festival UK)

by sampsa＠mac.com

Steve, I just bounced GORVAX, the 19 circuit seems not to be up yet... Sampsa On 31 May 2010, at 14:37, Steve Davidson wrote: Sampsa, It doesn't mention HECnet by name on the website. If you can arrange it, maybe put in a HECnet gateway there. Just the gateway, nothing else. I will commit to bringing all of my systems (and clusters) up for that weekend. None of the machines here are newer than 1993 and that includes the Alpha's. The earliest hardware that can be on the net is circa 1985. Everything here is DEC and only DEC not Compaq and certainly not HP. This means that the only thing that will be available will be actual hardware (from this end). I could (maybe) have up to 15 machines running by then. I can see that electric meter move now - probably faster than it ever has! I can bring up PDP-11's, VAXen, and Alpha's. I did not publish this to the list intentionally. Let me know if I need to be able to bring everything up. Also, all of the various gateways should be stable by then so we can really show something. Maybe show how vintage systems can still communicate in the current world with current hardware. -Steve From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Sampsa Laine Sent: Mon 5/31/2010 08:52 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] UK based people - we must go to this (Vintage Computer Festival UK) Guys, Check this out: http://www.tnmoc.org/vcf-gb.aspx Maybe we could get HECnet involved somehow? Or are we already doing this and I've totally missed the boat on it all? Sampsa

15 years, 5 months

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by sampsa＠mac.com

On 31 May 2010, at 21:14, Angela Kahealani wrote: a bit of client site charting to produce a network diagram. That would be really nice. I thought of automating this (I'm currently developing a HECnet node info database system, mainly as a learning exercise for Python and Oracle RDB) by having some entries in a database table, namely WAN links and LANs. Basically, a WAN link entry would indicate two end points (either bridge or MULTINET) whilst nodes are allocated membership in a LAN - from these two sets of data it would be possible to draw up a basic network diagram. Of course this would entail either some kind of crawler to populate the database or someone to manually keep this info up to date. Sampsa

15 years, 5 months

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by angela＠kahealani.com

On Wed, 2010-05-26 08:10:27 you wrote: Hi Guys, http://hecnet.eu is up and running - not much up there, but there is more to come! Thank you for all your contributions. a bit of client site charting to produce a network diagram. That would be really nice. I'd also like to create an online tutorial/faq to walk people through the basic decnet/bridge setup as well as point out any common issues. I'd especially appreciate this, which is what I need to address when I get my workstation repaired an try to set-up Mark Crispin's Panda TOPS-20 distribution on the KLH emulator. It'd also be nice to get some bios & backgrounds on people using hecnet - sometimes even though it's a big network it can feel a bit lonely! While I have address allocations for DECnet nodes kahea and lani, I'm not online with them yet. Many years ago I did lots of hardware diagnostics on raw hardware (no operating systems) in assembly language and machine code in support of hardware design validation and manufacturing and field diagnostics. I encountered TOPS-20 at Computer Communications Corp. which did educational software. Regards, Mark Aloha, Angela Kahealani -- "(I'll) Be Seeing You..." All information and transactions are private between the parties, and are non negotiable. All rights reserve without prejudice Angela Kahealani. http://kahealani.com

15 years, 5 months

UK based people - we must go to this (Vintage Computer Festival UK)

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 13:52 +0100, Sampsa Laine wrote: Guys, Check this out: http://www.tnmoc.org/vcf-gb.aspx Maybe we could get HECnet involved somehow? Or are we already doing this and I've totally missed the boat on it all? Sampsa Sampsa, I'll be there demoing some DEC gear - I can up the hecnet heat and see if I can get networked in for the weekend. Regards, Mark.

15 years, 5 months

UK based people - we must go to this (Vintage Computer Festival UK)

by sampsa＠mac.com

Steve, Do you know how I could write a bit-by-bit image to a floppy using VMS? I need to create a floppy from an image file and the only machine i have around to do it with is CHIMPY. Sampsa On 31 May 2010, at 14:37, Steve Davidson wrote: Sampsa, It doesn't mention HECnet by name on the website. If you can arrange it, maybe put in a HECnet gateway there. Just the gateway, nothing else. I will commit to bringing all of my systems (and clusters) up for that weekend. None of the machines here are newer than 1993 and that includes the Alpha's. The earliest hardware that can be on the net is circa 1985. Everything here is DEC and only DEC not Compaq and certainly not HP. This means that the only thing that will be available will be actual hardware (from this end). I could (maybe) have up to 15 machines running by then. I can see that electric meter move now - probably faster than it ever has! I can bring up PDP-11's, VAXen, and Alpha's. I did not publish this to the list intentionally. Let me know if I need to be able to bring everything up. Also, all of the various gateways should be stable by then so we can really show something. Maybe show how vintage systems can still communicate in the current world with current hardware. -Steve From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Sampsa Laine Sent: Mon 5/31/2010 08:52 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] UK based people - we must go to this (Vintage Computer Festival UK) Guys, Check this out: http://www.tnmoc.org/vcf-gb.aspx Maybe we could get HECnet involved somehow? Or are we already doing this and I've totally missed the boat on it all? Sampsa

15 years, 5 months

FW: [HECnet] UK based people - we must go to this (Vintage Computer Festival UK)

by jeep＠scshome.net

Sampsa, It doesn't mention HECnet by name on the website. If you can arrange it, maybe put in a HECnet gateway there. Just the gateway, nothing else. I will commit to bringing all of my systems (and clusters) up for that weekend. None of the machines here are newer than 1993 and that includes the Alpha's. The earliest hardware that can be on the net is circa 1985. Everything here is DEC and only DEC not Compaq and certainly not HP. This means that the only thing that will be available will be actual hardware (from this end). I could (maybe) have up to 15 machines running by then. I can see that electric meter move now - probably faster than it ever has! I can bring up PDP-11's, VAXen, and Alpha's. I did not publish this to the list intentionally. Let me know if I need to be able to bring everything up. Also, all of the various gateways should be stable by then so we can really show something. Maybe show how vintage systems can still communicate in the current world with current hardware. -Steve From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Sampsa Laine Sent: Mon 5/31/2010 08:52 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] UK based people - we must go to this (Vintage Computer Festival UK) Guys, Check this out: http://www.tnmoc.org/vcf-gb.aspx Maybe we could get HECnet involved somehow? Or are we already doing this and I've totally missed the boat on it all? Sampsa

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