That's the one!
I'm hoping to get the most interesting talks and demos recorded in HD video to susequently upload to the internet. So hopefully anyone who misses the day will still get to share some of the fun.
Jason Stevens wrote:
This event, right?
http://wickensonline.co.uk/declegacy/
sigh i think I picked the wrong month to be in the UK....
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk <mailto:mark at wickensonline.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi guys,
I've now secured an internet connection for the DEC Legacy event
in April and wanted to pick your collective brains about what
might be interesting to hecnet hobbyists who won't be able to
attend the event if we can get some of the machines that will be
in attendance connected up to hecnet on the day.
A couple of my machines will be there - probably the VAX 4000/90
and either the DEC 3000/600 or the ZX6000 itanium workstation -
I'm presuming I'll need to supply an updated IP address for Jonny
to patch me in given that my bridge will be on a different IP
address? Also, would it be possible for those attendees who've not
been connected previously to get connected up on the day, given
that they won't have to worry about the bridge setup?
Would anyone fancy participating in a coding competition? Anyone
have any other suggestions?
Kind regards, Mark.
This event, right?
http://wickensonline.co.uk/declegacy/
sigh i think I picked the wrong month to be in the UK....
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
Hi guys,
I've now secured an internet connection for the DEC Legacy event in April and wanted to pick your collective brains about what might be interesting to hecnet hobbyists who won't be able to attend the event if we can get some of the machines that will be in attendance connected up to hecnet on the day.
A couple of my machines will be there - probably the VAX 4000/90 and either the DEC 3000/600 or the ZX6000 itanium workstation - I'm presuming I'll need to supply an updated IP address for Jonny to patch me in given that my bridge will be on a different IP address? Also, would it be possible for those attendees who've not been connected previously to get connected up on the day, given that they won't have to worry about the bridge setup?
Would anyone fancy participating in a coding competition? Anyone have any other suggestions?
Kind regards, Mark.
Hi guys,
I've now secured an internet connection for the DEC Legacy event in April and wanted to pick your collective brains about what might be interesting to hecnet hobbyists who won't be able to attend the event if we can get some of the machines that will be in attendance connected up to hecnet on the day.
A couple of my machines will be there - probably the VAX 4000/90 and either the DEC 3000/600 or the ZX6000 itanium workstation - I'm presuming I'll need to supply an updated IP address for Jonny to patch me in given that my bridge will be on a different IP address? Also, would it be possible for those attendees who've not been connected previously to get connected up on the day, given that they won't have to worry about the bridge setup?
Would anyone fancy participating in a coding competition? Anyone have any other suggestions?
Kind regards, Mark.
Yes, the #if stuff I have had to adapt for OS X as well.
I'll try with a cable tonight to see if that works better than wireless...
Johnny
Jean-Yves Bernier wrote:
At 2:17 AM +0100 2/15/10, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is supposed to be
a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I haven't figured out yet,
and thought that maybe someone here already knows, so I don't have to go
figure it out myself.
I have your bridge working on Mac OS X.
I forced
#define __FreeBSD__
to get
ioctl(BIOCIMMEDIATE, BIOCSHDRCMPLT) compiled.
I get the same packets as tcpdump, that is:
- broadcasts from all nodes, if I run on a distinct machine (no simulator)
router-hello, lev-1-routing, lev-2-routing
- broadcasts and unicasts to me, if I run on a machine hosting a simulator
link-service, data-ack, ils-ack, data
I am on a switched network with unmanaged switches, so i'm unable to sniff
all traffic for the moment.
At 2:17 AM +0100 2/15/10, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is supposed to be
a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I haven't figured out yet,
and thought that maybe someone here already knows, so I don't have to go
figure it out myself.
I have your bridge working on Mac OS X.
I forced
#define __FreeBSD__
to get
ioctl(BIOCIMMEDIATE, BIOCSHDRCMPLT) compiled.
I get the same packets as tcpdump, that is:
- broadcasts from all nodes, if I run on a distinct machine (no simulator)
router-hello, lev-1-routing, lev-2-routing
- broadcasts and unicasts to me, if I run on a machine hosting a simulator
link-service, data-ack, ils-ack, data
I am on a switched network with unmanaged switches, so i'm unable to sniff
all traffic for the moment.
--
Jean-Yves Bernier
In my local case, the bridge only have one UDP socket, and one local NIC.
I can even reduce it to only run with the NIC, and I still see the problem.
Johnny
Jason Stevens wrote:
Does you bridge have many connections to it? I recall last time I glanced thru the source code it wasn't using blocking sockets... perhaps its getting 'stuck' on a socket and effectively missing packets...?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
Very possibly. The annoying thing is the fact that tcpdump sees more
packets than I (my bridge) do.
Johnny
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Johnny,
Not sure this is related but I tried to run SIMH on OS X over
the wireless and DECNET didn't work - it might be more than just
a pcap issue, the problem could be OS X's wireless NIC drivers
or something.
Sampsa
On 15 Feb 2010, at 01:17, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is
supposed to be a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I
haven't figured out yet, and thought that maybe someone here
already knows, so I don't have to go figure it out myself.
Running my bridge program on MAC OS X, I don't get all
packets, but I do get some of them. I can't see a pattern to it.
This is done over wireless ethernet.
The interesting thing is that tcpdump manages to see all of
them. I'm very curious on why tcpdump manages to see packets
that I don't see... Anyone have any ideas?
Feel free to ask questions. I'll happily explain what I have
tested, and done, and whatnot.
Johnny
-- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se> ||
Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" -
B. Idol
Marc Chametzky wrote:
Not sure this is related but I tried to run SIMH on OS X over the wireless and DECNET didn't work - it might be more than just a pcap issue, the problem could be OS X's wireless NIC drivers or something.
Aren't there issues with wireless network connections only supporting a single MAC address thus making bridging not work properly?
Could be. However, in this case, I can definitely see that my bridge are not getting some packets that tcpdump are getting.
That discrepancy shouldn't be there, and is definitely not in the scope of the capabilities of the interface as such.
If I would have a situation where the bridge program and tcpdump would agree, and it still didn't work, then I would start looking at the possibility that the wireless interface didn't support all the stuff I need.
Johnny
Does you bridge have many connections to it? I recall last time I glanced thru the source code it wasn't using blocking sockets... perhaps its getting 'stuck' on a socket and effectively missing packets...?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
Very possibly. The annoying thing is the fact that tcpdump sees more packets than I (my bridge) do.
Johnny
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Johnny,
Not sure this is related but I tried to run SIMH on OS X over the wireless and DECNET didn't work - it might be more than just a pcap issue, the problem could be OS X's wireless NIC drivers or something.
Sampsa
On 15 Feb 2010, at 01:17, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is supposed to be a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I haven't figured out yet, and thought that maybe someone here already knows, so I don't have to go figure it out myself.
Running my bridge program on MAC OS X, I don't get all packets, but I do get some of them. I can't see a pattern to it.
This is done over wireless ethernet.
The interesting thing is that tcpdump manages to see all of them. I'm very curious on why tcpdump manages to see packets that I don't see... Anyone have any ideas?
Feel free to ask questions. I'll happily explain what I have tested, and done, and whatnot.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Very possibly. The annoying thing is the fact that tcpdump sees more packets than I (my bridge) do.
Johnny
Sampsa Laine wrote:
Johnny,
Not sure this is related but I tried to run SIMH on OS X over the wireless and DECNET didn't work - it might be more than just a pcap issue, the problem could be OS X's wireless NIC drivers or something.
Sampsa
On 15 Feb 2010, at 01:17, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is supposed to be a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I haven't figured out yet, and thought that maybe someone here already knows, so I don't have to go figure it out myself.
Running my bridge program on MAC OS X, I don't get all packets, but I do get some of them. I can't see a pattern to it.
This is done over wireless ethernet.
The interesting thing is that tcpdump manages to see all of them. I'm very curious on why tcpdump manages to see packets that I don't see... Anyone have any ideas?
Feel free to ask questions. I'll happily explain what I have tested, and done, and whatnot.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Not sure this is related but I tried to run SIMH on OS X over the wireless and DECNET didn't work - it might be more than just a pcap issue, the problem could be OS X's wireless NIC drivers or something.
Aren't there issues with wireless network connections only supporting a single MAC address thus making bridging not work properly?
--Marc
