At 11:57 PM +0100 7/15/10, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Yeah I haven't seen much traffic lately.
Anyway, I'd like to announce a new node, BONZO, 8.800.
It's a Windows NT 4.0 machine running Pathworks :)
Obviously it's not offering any services, just a bit of a toy for me to play with it...
Sampsa
So is it running on x86 or Alpha?
Zane
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Yeah I haven't seen much traffic lately.
Anyway, I'd like to announce a new node, BONZO, 8.800.
It's a Windows NT 4.0 machine running Pathworks :)
Obviously it's not offering any services, just a bit of a toy for me to play with it...
Sampsa
On 15 Jul 2010, at 23:35, H Vlems wrote:
Hi, is the mailing list down? Since last Tuesday 10 AM the mail flow
suddenly stopped.
Hans
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Onderwerp: RE: [HECnet] Alpha Server 4100
What is wrong with your Alpha Server 4100?
I've always wanted one for my collection, but its size and mass are holding
me back....
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Off-topic but still kinda cool...
Well, I'm not sure I'm buying it yet, my 4100 is in a pretty messed up
state so not sure it's much use to anyone...
Sampsa
On 13 Jul 2010, at 02:06, Gregg Levine wrote:
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Check this magazine out, I've been talking to the editor lately
about HECnet
and DEC stuff in general, he seemed very interested:
http://www.300baudmagazine.com/index.html
Sampsa
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Hello!
Oh mynock muffins!
I remember OS-9, I actually looked at it, for one project or another,
it seemed to be an excellent OS for what it could do. Too bad the only
system developement was supported on was a dang-blasted CoCo......
I then started digging even deeper into the Apple II, by the time the
PCs were being cloned, I wore it out. Now its up to something else to
surface. Or at least arrive......
Incidentally Sampsa, if you do end up buying that Alpha system, what's
happening the the fellow he's replacing?
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Hi, is the mailing list down? Since last Tuesday 10 AM the mail flow
suddenly stopped.
Hans
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Onderwerp: RE: [HECnet] Alpha Server 4100
What is wrong with your Alpha Server 4100?
I've always wanted one for my collection, but its size and mass are holding
me back....
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Off-topic but still kinda cool...
Well, I'm not sure I'm buying it yet, my 4100 is in a pretty messed up
state so not sure it's much use to anyone...
Sampsa
On 13 Jul 2010, at 02:06, Gregg Levine wrote:
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Check this magazine out, I've been talking to the editor lately
about HECnet
and DEC stuff in general, he seemed very interested:
http://www.300baudmagazine.com/index.html
Sampsa
--
Hello!
Oh mynock muffins!
I remember OS-9, I actually looked at it, for one project or another,
it seemed to be an excellent OS for what it could do. Too bad the only
system developement was supported on was a dang-blasted CoCo......
I then started digging even deeper into the Apple II, by the time the
PCs were being cloned, I wore it out. Now its up to something else to
surface. Or at least arrive......
Incidentally Sampsa, if you do end up buying that Alpha system, what's
happening the the fellow he's replacing?
-----
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What is wrong with your Alpha Server 4100?
I've always wanted one for my collection, but its size and mass are holding
me back....
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Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Off-topic but still kinda cool...
Well, I'm not sure I'm buying it yet, my 4100 is in a pretty messed up
state so not sure it's much use to anyone...
Sampsa
On 13 Jul 2010, at 02:06, Gregg Levine wrote:
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Check this magazine out, I've been talking to the editor lately
about HECnet
and DEC stuff in general, he seemed very interested:
http://www.300baudmagazine.com/index.html
Sampsa
--
Hello!
Oh mynock muffins!
I remember OS-9, I actually looked at it, for one project or another,
it seemed to be an excellent OS for what it could do. Too bad the only
system developement was supported on was a dang-blasted CoCo......
I then started digging even deeper into the Apple II, by the time the
PCs were being cloned, I wore it out. Now its up to something else to
surface. Or at least arrive......
Incidentally Sampsa, if you do end up buying that Alpha system, what's
happening the the fellow he's replacing?
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
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Well, I'm not sure I'm buying it yet, my 4100 is in a pretty messed up state so not sure it's much use to anyone...
Sampsa
On 13 Jul 2010, at 02:06, Gregg Levine wrote:
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Check this magazine out, I've been talking to the editor lately about HECnet
and DEC stuff in general, he seemed very interested:
http://www.300baudmagazine.com/index.html
Sampsa
--
Hello!
Oh mynock muffins!
I remember OS-9, I actually looked at it, for one project or another,
it seemed to be an excellent OS for what it could do. Too bad the only
system developement was supported on was a dang-blasted CoCo......
I then started digging even deeper into the Apple II, by the time the
PCs were being cloned, I wore it out. Now its up to something else to
surface. Or at least arrive......
Incidentally Sampsa, if you do end up buying that Alpha system, what's
happening the the fellow he's replacing?
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Check this magazine out, I've been talking to the editor lately about HECnet
and DEC stuff in general, he seemed very interested:
http://www.300baudmagazine.com/index.html
Sampsa
--
Hello!
Oh mynock muffins!
I remember OS-9, I actually looked at it, for one project or another,
it seemed to be an excellent OS for what it could do. Too bad the only
system developement was supported on was a dang-blasted CoCo......
I then started digging even deeper into the Apple II, by the time the
PCs were being cloned, I wore it out. Now its up to something else to
surface. Or at least arrive......
Incidentally Sampsa, if you do end up buying that Alpha system, what's
happening the the fellow he's replacing?
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Check this magazine out, I've been talking to the editor lately about HECnet and DEC stuff in general, he seemed very interested:
http://www.300baudmagazine.com/index.html
Sampsa
What I find fascinating is that in English, Ducth and a few other languages
most elements have names that end in -ium. For me that sounds like Latin.
Italian comes from Latin and most elements suddenly end in -o.
Take Iron (Fe), which has two valencies 2+ and 3+. The old style dutch names
for Fe(II) compounds were called Ferro, say Fe(SO4) was Ferro Sulphate and
Fe(III) compounds were called Ferri so Fe2(SO4)3 was Ferri Sulphate.
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Area 44 - update
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:39:14 +0200, you wrote:
Note the english names for 33 and 34. In dutch the elements are called
koolstof and zuurstof and these names are obviously too long.
Any suggestions for names of elements that are 6 characters or less, in
other languages? See my current list on home.zonnet.nl/hvlems
There's one in french: Azote for nitrogen (stikstof).
In Italian:
Elio (He), Litio (Li), Boro (B), Azoto (N), Fluoro (F), Neon (Ne), Sodio
(Na), Zolfo (S), Cloro (Cl), Argon (Ar), Calcio (Ca), Cromo (Cr), Ferro
(Fe), Nichel (Ni), Rame (Cu), Zinco (Zn), Gallio (Ga), Bromo (Br), Ittrio
(Y), Niobio (Nb), Rodio (Rh), Cadmio (Cd), Indio (In), Stagno (Sn), Iodio
(I), Xeno (Xe), Cesio (Cs), Bario (Ba), Afnio (Hf), Renio (Re), Osmio (Os),
Iridio (Ir), Oro (Au), Tallio (Tl), Piombo (Pb), Astato (At), Radon (Rn),
Radio (Ra), Cerio (Ce), Terbio (Tb), Olmio (Ho), Erbio (Er), Tulio (Tm),
Torio (Th), Uranio (U), Curio (Cm), Fermio (Fm).
Reference: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavola_periodica
Note that:
1. Neon (Ne) is also the commonly used name for fluorescent lamps
2. Ferro (Fe) might be used as a synonym for any generic metallic substance
3. Calcio (Ca) means also soccer and kick
4. Stagno (Sn) means also pond and watertight (or airtight)
5. Radio (Ra) means also radio receiver and broadcasting company
HTH, :-)
G.
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:39:14 +0200, you wrote:
Note the english names for 33 and 34. In dutch the elements are called
koolstof and zuurstof and these names are obviously too long.
Any suggestions for names of elements that are 6 characters or less, in
other languages? See my current list on home.zonnet.nl/hvlems
There's one in french: Azote for nitrogen (stikstof).
In Italian:
Elio (He), Litio (Li), Boro (B), Azoto (N), Fluoro (F), Neon (Ne), Sodio
(Na), Zolfo (S), Cloro (Cl), Argon (Ar), Calcio (Ca), Cromo (Cr), Ferro
(Fe), Nichel (Ni), Rame (Cu), Zinco (Zn), Gallio (Ga), Bromo (Br), Ittrio
(Y), Niobio (Nb), Rodio (Rh), Cadmio (Cd), Indio (In), Stagno (Sn), Iodio
(I), Xeno (Xe), Cesio (Cs), Bario (Ba), Afnio (Hf), Renio (Re), Osmio (Os),
Iridio (Ir), Oro (Au), Tallio (Tl), Piombo (Pb), Astato (At), Radon (Rn),
Radio (Ra), Cerio (Ce), Terbio (Tb), Olmio (Ho), Erbio (Er), Tulio (Tm),
Torio (Th), Uranio (U), Curio (Cm), Fermio (Fm).
Reference: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavola_periodica
Note that:
1. Neon (Ne) is also the commonly used name for fluorescent lamps
2. Ferro (Fe) might be used as a synonym for any generic metallic substance
3. Calcio (Ca) means also soccer and kick
4. Stagno (Sn) means also pond and watertight (or airtight)
5. Radio (Ra) means also radio receiver and broadcasting company
HTH, :-)
G.
Hi Kari, a long time ago (summer of '79) I participated on a student
exchange program set up between the technical universities of Poznan (PL)
and Eindhoven (NL). I was the chemist in the dutch team of 4 and did some
work on a fertilizer factory north of Poznan. We lived in a student
dormitory and met people from all over Europe, including a sizeable group of
Finnish students. They introduced us to the sauna, and since warm water had
been turned of (it was summer) that was marvelous news to us. They also came
up with more interesting concepts, like drinking wodka and trying to learn
Polish. I remember mentioning that 7 cases was rather difficult and
(obviously) the Fins dropped off their chairs laughing (that's where ROTFL
comes from). They tried to explain Finnish grammar and I am sure that gave
me the headache, not the wodka :-)
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Area 44 - update
Hans,
Interesting that you find Finnish beautiful. I've heard that before, but
about song lyrics.
Finnish grammar is widely considered complex. I think that is due to the
fact that its structure differs considerably from most other languages.
One main difference is that pre- or postpositions aren't used at all but
word endings instead.
E.g. house = talo; in(side) the house = talossa ; into the house =
taloon ; out of the house = talosta ; at the house = talolla ; without a
house = talotta ; his house = talonsa.
Btw. Finnish has 14 casi. :)
The newest elements are syntethic an instable in normal conditions (NTP)
AFAIK.
Kari
On 12.7.2010 20:54, H Vlems wrote:
Ummm, Kari let me start with the statement that Finnish is a beautiful
language, quite often spoken by equally beautiful women. But it didn't
strike me as a simple language ;-) rather full of words with many
syllables!
In terms of chemical elements though, Finnish tends to drop the 'h' (e.g.
Tulium instead of Thulium) which brings a few elements within reach.
And Unbium was new to me as well (I'm a chemist but when I was at school
the
periodic table ended at 104, Rf!
Hans
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Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Area 44 - update
There are the Finnish names for the elemants:
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luettelo_alkuaineista
Some are short but most are too long.
On 11.7.2010 1:15, H Vlems wrote:
G ran, that is an interisting list because it offers new possibilities.
The noble gasses work well in dutch, just like the halogens.
Group 6 is interesting. I use OXYGEN and Seleen. But obviously Tellur is
ok
too (is Tellurium in dutch).
Bi is Bismuth in dutch. Vismut works for DECnet.
Current nodes have names and these remain the same even when the area
changes. See my website for a list of names: home.zonnet.nl/hvlems
The collection is ever expanding so I'm always in need of new nodenames.
Thanks for the suggestions,
hans
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G ran hling
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Area 44 - update
Swedish is also a language, not to distant from the Dutch... (though the
3 letters not beeing US-ASCII - takes some words out of the
possible list of DECnet node names)
He Helium
Ne Neon
Ar Argon
Kr Krypton
Xe Xenon
Rn Radon
F Flour
Cl Klor
Br Brom
I Jod
At Astat
O Syre
S Svavel
Se Selen
Te Tellur
Po Polonium
N Kv ve
P Fosfor
As Arsenik
Sb Antimon
Bi Vismut
C Kol
Si Kisel
Ge Germanium
Sn Tenn
Pb Bly
B Bor
Al Aluminium
Ga Gallium
In Indium
Tl Tallium
For those mentioned in Russinan, to compare:
B Bor
N Kv ve
Ne Neon
S Svavel
Cr Krom
Br Brom
Xe Xenon
U Uran
Have a "happy naming cermony", whatever names are chosen ;-)
/G ran
On 2010-07-10 18:39, H Vlems wrote:
It is too much of an effort to publish all the names of the elements in
dutch and compare them to their russian equivalents.
I can augment your list though:
6OP (B) boor (borium, easily confused with Bohrium)
A3OT (N) stikstof, or azote in french
HEOH (Ne) neon
CEPA (S) zwavel (in polish is this sarkow [after kwas
sarkowy,
sulphuric acid?])
XPOM (Cr) chroom
6POM (Br) broom
KCEHOH (Xe) xenon
YPAH (U) uranium, which gets abbreviated to uraan
I used that trick with Se and As ; selenium and arsenicum are
abbreviated
to
seleen and arseen.
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Area 44 - update
On 10.07.2010 16:39, H Vlems wrote:
Area 44 will be extended today with the following 6 nodes:
FLUOR 44.29 Alpha Server 1000A 5/333 VMS 7.3-2
BROOM 44.14 Alpha Server 1200 VMS 7.3-2
IJZER 44.19 Compaq Prof. Workstation VMS 8.3
TIN 44.28 Alpha Server 1200 VMS 8.3
CARBON 44.33 DEC AXP 3000 MODEL 300x VMS 1.5-1H1
OXYGEN 44.34 DEC AXP 3000 MODEL 300x VMS 6.1
done.
Any suggestions for names of elements that are 6 characters or less, in
other languages?
Some of russian names :)
6OP (B)
A3OT (N)
HEOH (Ne)
CEPA (S)
XPOM (Cr)
6POM (Br)
KCEHOH (Xe)
YPAH (U)
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