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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Gregg Levine
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 23:38
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha
software/documentation from March 2003?
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Marc Chametzky
<marc at bluevine.net> wrote:
My vote would be to put them online within HECnet.
I agree! Put the contents online (somehow) for us to view and use
when possible.
Okay, I'll do that then. I've copied the CDs to .iso files and now
need to get my Linux system to get a bit more room to hold them and
then once that's reconfigured, I'll mount them on DUSTY:: (and send
out a message when that's done to let everyone know where it is).
I will happily rip and host the CD images for HECnet
member use - I
run a data center, so I have plenty of bandwidth to spare.
I'll even
pay for shipping if required.
Thanks very much for the offer, Ian, but I've got a very decent
Internet connection here (all hail, Verizon FiOS :-) ), so once I
resize my Linux disk to hold these files, I'll be set.
--Marc
Hello!
Marc for those of us who as yet do not have access via the
networking methods that you've worked out with the rest of
the group, can you set up access for normal methods? IE, via
FTP or even HTTP?
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Marc,
We need to be careful about putting VMS kits in the public space. It's
one thing to make them available for HECnet users within HECnet but
another to put them accessible to the whole world. HP might (probably
will), take a very dim view of this. Let's not temp fate and give them
ammunition to shutdown the program.
-Steve
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Marc Chametzky <marc at bluevine.net> wrote:
My vote would be to put them online within HECnet.
I agree! Put the contents online (somehow) for us to view and use when
possible.
Okay, I'll do that then. I've copied the CDs to .iso files and now need to
get my Linux system to get a bit more room to hold them and then once that's
reconfigured, I'll mount them on DUSTY:: (and send out a message when that's
done to let everyone know where it is).
I will happily rip and host the CD images for HECnet member use - I run a
data center, so I have plenty of bandwidth to spare. I'll even pay for
shipping if required.
Thanks very much for the offer, Ian, but I've got a very decent Internet
connection here (all hail, Verizon FiOS :-) ), so once I resize my Linux
disk to hold these files, I'll be set.
--Marc
Hello!
Marc for those of us who as yet do not have access via the networking
methods that you've worked out with the rest of the group, can you set
up access for normal methods? IE, via FTP or even HTTP?
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
My vote would be to put them online within HECnet.
I agree! Put the contents online (somehow) for us to view and use when possible.
Okay, I'll do that then. I've copied the CDs to .iso files and now need to get my Linux system to get a bit more room to hold them and then once that's reconfigured, I'll mount them on DUSTY:: (and send out a message when that's done to let everyone know where it is).
I will happily rip and host the CD images for HECnet member use - I run a data center, so I have plenty of bandwidth to spare. I'll even pay for shipping if required.
Thanks very much for the offer, Ian, but I've got a very decent Internet connection here (all hail, Verizon FiOS :-) ), so once I resize my Linux disk to hold these files, I'll be set.
--Marc
Marc,
I will happily rip and host the CD images for HECnet member use - I run a data center, so I have plenty of bandwidth to spare. I'll even pay for shipping if required.
Let me know if I can help.
Ian
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On 2011-12-01, at 5:05 PM, Marc Chametzky <marc at bluevine.net> wrote:
I've got a box of software and documentation CDs for AlphaVMS. I can send them to someone who wants them or perhaps just even put them online for people.
Anyone interested?
--Marc
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On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Steve Davidson <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
Marc,
My vote would be to put them online within HECnet.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Marc Chametzky
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 20:06
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha
software/documentation from March 2003?
I've got a box of software and documentation CDs for
AlphaVMS. I can send them to someone who wants them or
perhaps just even put them online for people.
Anyone interested?
--Marc
Hello!
I agree! Put the contents online (somehow) for us to view and use when possible.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Marc,
My vote would be to put them online within HECnet.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Marc Chametzky
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 20:06
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha
software/documentation from March 2003?
I've got a box of software and documentation CDs for
AlphaVMS. I can send them to someone who wants them or
perhaps just even put them online for people.
Anyone interested?
--Marc
I've got a box of software and documentation CDs for AlphaVMS. I can send them to someone who wants them or perhaps just even put them online for people.
Anyone interested?
--Marc
As others have mentioned, the Panda distribution uses KLH10 not simh.
It's supposed to come with a precompiled klh10 executable for Linux and
Intel. It also comes with a pre-installed, ready to boot, system image that
you can use after some minimal configuration, and there's README file that
describes how to boot and configure it. I've got to admit that it's been a
while since I tried it, but I don't remember any problems. What's the issue
you're having?
As for Linux DECnet, I'm afraid this has absolutely no connection. The
Linux DECnet package allows a Linux machine to speak DECnet natively (well,
more or less) so a Linux machine can participate as a node in a DECnet
network. This is independent of any simulations or simulated operating
systems. If you have a lot of DEC machines, it's very handy to be able
access your Linux machines with FAL/NFT, SET HOST, NCP/NML, etc.
Bob
With SIMH your best bet is TOPS-10. The Panda (MRC's updated TOPS-20) distribution requires KLH10 and I believe includes a slightly newer version than is otherwise available. I've never messed with the Panda distro, but have done my own installs.
I've never had DECnet running on TOPS-20, but did have it working on TOPS-10 7.04 thanks to a kit I got somewhere. I really liked the LAT support, since it allowed me to connect with a VT420. SIMH doesn't support Networking, but KLH10 does. My emulated TOPS-20 system was running TCP/IP, but I haven't had it online in years.
Zane
At 10:04 PM +0000 11/30/11, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
Is the Panda distribution a PDP-10 emulator, like simh ?
If so google for simh 's website. Bob Supnik provides detailed instructions on how to configure simh on linux as well as installation guides for several DEC operating systems. I tried and succeeded once to get TOPS-10 up and running, an os I am unfamiliar with.
Hans
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At 11:44 AM -1000 11/30/11, Angela Kahealani wrote:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 06:06:07AM -0800, Bob Armstrong wrote:
FYI - it sounds like the Linux kernel guys are discussing dropping support
for DECnet. I don't know how many other HECnet people use Linux (I know I
do!), but if you're interested you might want to join the linux-decnet-user
list
I'm still awaiting clear and complete instructions on how to set-up the
Panda TOPS-20 distro on top of Linux, to even *become* a HECNET user.
Until such time as the DECNET community cares enough to document this,
I'm going to fail to particpate, and therefore give a damn.
If you need clear and complete instructions on how to do it, are you sure you want to do it? Having said that, there are links to most of the documentation I'm aware of at my PDP-10 emulation website.
http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/pdp10emu.html
I won't guarantee that all the links are current, it's been a long time since I updated that part of the site. I've started working on some updates, but to the best of my recollection no one has sent updates on the PDP-10 stuff.
Setting up KLH10 is a pretty basic compile, IIRC. The instructions with KLH10 should be enough to accomplish that. You might want to get on the alt.sys.pdp10 newsgroup, as that's a good place to ask questions.
Basically don't expect the "community" to do something for you, if you want something, take the time to research the available resources, and then ask questions in the appropriate places if you're stuck.
Zane
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| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator |
| healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| | Photographer |
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| My flickr Photostream |
| http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |