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Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003?

by jeep＠scshome.net

Marc, My vote would be to put them online within HECnet. -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Marc Chametzky Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 20:06 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003? I've got a box of software and documentation CDs for AlphaVMS. I can send them to someone who wants them or perhaps just even put them online for people. Anyone interested? --Marc

14 years, 3 months

Any interest in Alpha software/documentation from March 2003?

by marc＠bluevine.net

I've got a box of software and documentation CDs for AlphaVMS. I can send them to someone who wants them or perhaps just even put them online for people. Anyone interested? --Marc

14 years, 3 months

Linux dropping support for DECnet

by bob＠jfcl.com

As others have mentioned, the Panda distribution uses KLH10 not simh. It's supposed to come with a precompiled klh10 executable for Linux and Intel. It also comes with a pre-installed, ready to boot, system image that you can use after some minimal configuration, and there's README file that describes how to boot and configure it. I've got to admit that it's been a while since I tried it, but I don't remember any problems. What's the issue you're having? As for Linux DECnet, I'm afraid this has absolutely no connection. The Linux DECnet package allows a Linux machine to speak DECnet natively (well, more or less) so a Linux machine can participate as a node in a DECnet network. This is independent of any simulations or simulated operating systems. If you have a lot of DEC machines, it's very handy to be able access your Linux machines with FAL/NFT, SET HOST, NCP/NML, etc. Bob

14 years, 3 months

Linux dropping support for DECnet

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

With SIMH your best bet is TOPS-10. The Panda (MRC's updated TOPS-20) distribution requires KLH10 and I believe includes a slightly newer version than is otherwise available. I've never messed with the Panda distro, but have done my own installs. I've never had DECnet running on TOPS-20, but did have it working on TOPS-10 7.04 thanks to a kit I got somewhere. I really liked the LAT support, since it allowed me to connect with a VT420. SIMH doesn't support Networking, but KLH10 does. My emulated TOPS-20 system was running TCP/IP, but I haven't had it online in years. Zane At 10:04 PM +0000 11/30/11, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote: Is the Panda distribution a PDP-10 emulator, like simh ? If so google for simh 's website. Bob Supnik provides detailed instructions on how to configure simh on linux as well as installation guides for several DEC operating systems. I tried and succeeded once to get TOPS-10 up and running, an os I am unfamiliar with. Hans -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |

14 years, 3 months

Linux dropping support for DECnet

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

At 11:44 AM -1000 11/30/11, Angela Kahealani wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 06:06:07AM -0800, Bob Armstrong wrote: FYI - it sounds like the Linux kernel guys are discussing dropping support for DECnet. I don't know how many other HECnet people use Linux (I know I do!), but if you're interested you might want to join the linux-decnet-user list I'm still awaiting clear and complete instructions on how to set-up the Panda TOPS-20 distro on top of Linux, to even *become* a HECNET user. Until such time as the DECNET community cares enough to document this, I'm going to fail to particpate, and therefore give a damn. If you need clear and complete instructions on how to do it, are you sure you want to do it? Having said that, there are links to most of the documentation I'm aware of at my PDP-10 emulation website. http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/pdp10emu.html I won't guarantee that all the links are current, it's been a long time since I updated that part of the site. I've started working on some updates, but to the best of my recollection no one has sent updates on the PDP-10 stuff. Setting up KLH10 is a pretty basic compile, IIRC. The instructions with KLH10 should be enough to accomplish that. You might want to get on the alt.sys.pdp10 newsgroup, as that's a good place to ask questions. Basically don't expect the "community" to do something for you, if you want something, take the time to research the available resources, and then ask questions in the appropriate places if you're stuck. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |

14 years, 3 months

Linux dropping support for DECnet

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2011-11-30 22.44, Angela Kahealani wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 06:06:07AM -0800, Bob Armstrong wrote: FYI - it sounds like the Linux kernel guys are discussing dropping support for DECnet. I don't know how many other HECnet people use Linux (I know I do!), but if you're interested you might want to join the linux-decnet-user list I'm still awaiting clear and complete instructions on how to set-up the Panda TOPS-20 distro on top of Linux, to even *become* a HECNET user. Until such time as the DECNET community cares enough to document this, I'm going to fail to particpate, and therefore give a damn. That came across as rather aggressive. Care to explain what the DECnet community is, how they in any way are related to the setup of TOPS-20 on top of Linux (by which I actually assume we're talking of some PDP-10 emulator, upon which you then install the PANDA TOPS-20 distribution). As for instructions on how to install the PANDA TOPS-20 dist on some kind of PDP-10 emulator, running on whatever, I'd suspect MRC would be the most logical person to ask. As for how to install/setup some PDP-10 emulator, I guess it depends on the emulator. As for how to get DECnet running under TOPS-20, that have just about no bearing on Linux whatsoever. Sorry, I just felt your reply was a little bit non-sequiteur. :-) Johnny

14 years, 3 months

Linux dropping support for DECnet

by hvlems＠zonnet.nl

Is the Panda distribution a PDP-10 emulator, like simh ? If so google for simh 's website. Bob Supnik provides detailed instructions on how to configure simh on linux as well as installation guides for several DEC operating systems. I tried and succeeded once to get TOPS-10 up and running, an os I am unfamiliar with. Hans ------Origineel bericht------ Van: Angela Kahealani Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Linux dropping support for DECnet Verzonden: 30 november 2011 22:44 On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 06:06:07AM -0800, Bob Armstrong wrote: FYI - it sounds like the Linux kernel guys are discussing dropping support for DECnet. I don't know how many other HECnet people use Linux (I know I do!), but if you're interested you might want to join the linux-decnet-user list I'm still awaiting clear and complete instructions on how to set-up the Panda TOPS-20 distro on top of Linux, to even *become* a HECNET user. Until such time as the DECNET community cares enough to document this, I'm going to fail to particpate, and therefore give a damn. -- Aloha, SL: Celeste Python; InWorldz: Celestial Angela; RL: Angela Kahealani (I'll) Be Seeing You... All information and transactions are private between the parties, and are non negotiable. All rights reserve without prejudice by Angela Kahealani http://www.kahealani.com/kahealani/angela_kahealani.html

14 years, 4 months

Linux dropping support for DECnet

by angela＠kahealani.com

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 06:06:07AM -0800, Bob Armstrong wrote: FYI - it sounds like the Linux kernel guys are discussing dropping support for DECnet. I don't know how many other HECnet people use Linux (I know I do!), but if you're interested you might want to join the linux-decnet-user list I'm still awaiting clear and complete instructions on how to set-up the Panda TOPS-20 distro on top of Linux, to even *become* a HECNET user. Until such time as the DECNET community cares enough to document this, I'm going to fail to particpate, and therefore give a damn. -- Aloha, SL: Celeste Python; InWorldz: Celestial Angela; RL: Angela Kahealani (I'll) Be Seeing You... All information and transactions are private between the parties, and are non negotiable. All rights reserve without prejudice by Angela Kahealani http://www.kahealani.com/kahealani/angela_kahealani.html

14 years, 4 months

Linux dropping support for DECnet

by md.benson＠gmail.com

On 30 Nov 2011, at 14:06, Bob Armstrong wrote: FYI it sounds like the Linux kernel guys are discussing dropping support for DECnet. I don t know how many other HECnet people use Linux (I know I do!), but if you re interested you might want to join the linux-decnet-user list http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=linux-decnet-user and post your support. Bob What exactly is this likely to impact? -- Mark Benson http://DECtec.info Twitter: @DECtecInfo HECnet: STAR69::MARK Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.

14 years, 4 months

Linux dropping support for DECnet

by jferraro＠gmail.com

Thanks for the heads-up, Bob. On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote: FYI it sounds like the Linux kernel guys are discussing dropping support for DECnet. I don t know how many other HECnet people use Linux (I know I do!), but if you re interested you might want to join the linux-decnet-user list http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=linux-decnet-user and post your support. Bob

14 years, 4 months

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