On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Admittedly, posting without quick research, apologies...
Where does one come by Ultrix sources these days, is it hobbyist licensable
(or "abandonware"), and what hardware is needed?
Should run on a MicroVAX 3900, haven't tested other systems using SIMH yet. It's more "abandonware" but licenses can be "made" if you know how. You can get install media from TUHS iirc.
Joe
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
I'm going for Ultrix for now - I'm a total TOPS-20 noob, would need a lot
of hand-holding to get the thing to run I fear...
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
On 11 Jun 2013, at 11:36, Robert Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>
wrote:
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Sent: 11 June 2013 09:13
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Cc: Sampsa Laine
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Anyone got TOPS-20 / Ultrix with DECNET SIMH image
ready to run?
Al 11/06/13 10:05, En/na Sampsa Laine ha escrit:
Got some spare cycles/RAM on one of my boxes, would be fun to run
TOPS-20 or Ultrix with DECNET?
Anyone got a working image / HOWTO on getting this going?
For TOPS-20, you can enable DECNET in the panda distribution with not
too
much effort. I tried to explain how to do it here:
http://ancientbits.blogspot.com.es/2013/05/ten-over-pi.html
The main problem is the network setup. You will have to work in shared
mode and it can wreck the host machine NIC.
Aren't we mixing up a couple of things here?
The Panda distribution, as far as I know, runs on the KL, which SIMH does
not emulate. SIMH emulates the KS and right now you can't run DECnet on
the
KS. There is work being done now to bring the KMC/DUP emulation to SIMH
to
allow DECnet to run on the KS. You should contact the SIMH mailing list
for
status on this.
Regards
Rob
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On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Sampsa Laine write:
This looks cool, anyone try it?
http://www.9track.net/simh/video/
Hi Sampsa,
How timely of you to observe this today.
Just last night I got code pieces from Matt Burke (the guy at 9track.net) to add VCB01 (QVSS) support to the simh codebase for the MicroVAX I and MicroVAX II simulators.
I'm in the process of merging that code and adding the necessary build mechanisms to the makefile as we speak.
This will be cleaned up and visible at https://github.com/simh/simh in at most a couple of days....
- Mark
Quick question for those in the know - does the MIPS version of Ultrix do DECNET?
The reason I ask is that I found something called GXemul that'll give me graphics more or less "natively"..Check it out: http://gxemul.sourceforge.net
Al 11/06/13 15:45, En/na Joe Ferraro ha escrit:
Admittedly, posting without quick research, apologies...
Where does one come by Ultrix sources these days, is it hobbyist licensable (or "abandonware"), and what hardware is needed?
Joe
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
I'm going for Ultrix for now - I'm a total TOPS-20 noob, would need a lot of hand-holding to get the thing to run I fear...
I would like to play with Ultrix too. I tried to install it some time ago and didn't succeed (no docs, a probably corrupted media image...). Are there viable media available somewhere? Docs?
Admittedly, posting without quick research, apologies...
Where does one come by Ultrix sources these days, is it hobbyist licensable (or "abandonware"), and what hardware is needed?
Joe
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
I'm going for Ultrix for now - I'm a total TOPS-20 noob, would need a lot of hand-holding to get the thing to run I fear...
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
On 11 Jun 2013, at 11:36, Robert Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
>> hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
>> Sent: 11 June 2013 09:13
>> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
>> Cc: Sampsa Laine
>> Subject: Re: [HECnet] Anyone got TOPS-20 / Ultrix with DECNET SIMH image
>> ready to run?
>>
>> Al 11/06/13 10:05, En/na Sampsa Laine ha escrit:
>>> Got some spare cycles/RAM on one of my boxes, would be fun to run
>> TOPS-20 or Ultrix with DECNET?
>>>
>>> Anyone got a working image / HOWTO on getting this going?
>> For TOPS-20, you can enable DECNET in the panda distribution with not too
>> much effort. I tried to explain how to do it here:
>>
>> http://ancientbits.blogspot.com.es/2013/05/ten-over-pi.html
>>
>> The main problem is the network setup. You will have to work in shared
>> mode and it can wreck the host machine NIC.
>
> Aren't we mixing up a couple of things here?
>
> The Panda distribution, as far as I know, runs on the KL, which SIMH does
> not emulate. SIMH emulates the KS and right now you can't run DECnet on the
> KS. There is work being done now to bring the KMC/DUP emulation to SIMH to
> allow DECnet to run on the KS. You should contact the SIMH mailing list for
> status on this.
>
> Regards
>
> Rob
>
I'm going for Ultrix for now - I'm a total TOPS-20 noob, would need a lot of hand-holding to get the thing to run I fear...
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +961 788 10537
On 11 Jun 2013, at 11:36, Robert Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
Sent: 11 June 2013 09:13
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Cc: Sampsa Laine
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Anyone got TOPS-20 / Ultrix with DECNET SIMH image
ready to run?
Al 11/06/13 10:05, En/na Sampsa Laine ha escrit:
Got some spare cycles/RAM on one of my boxes, would be fun to run
TOPS-20 or Ultrix with DECNET?
Anyone got a working image / HOWTO on getting this going?
For TOPS-20, you can enable DECNET in the panda distribution with not too
much effort. I tried to explain how to do it here:
http://ancientbits.blogspot.com.es/2013/05/ten-over-pi.html
The main problem is the network setup. You will have to work in shared
mode and it can wreck the host machine NIC.
Aren't we mixing up a couple of things here?
The Panda distribution, as far as I know, runs on the KL, which SIMH does
not emulate. SIMH emulates the KS and right now you can't run DECnet on the
KS. There is work being done now to bring the KMC/DUP emulation to SIMH to
allow DECnet to run on the KS. You should contact the SIMH mailing list for
status on this.
Regards
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
Sent: 11 June 2013 09:13
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Cc: Sampsa Laine
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Anyone got TOPS-20 / Ultrix with DECNET SIMH image
ready to run?
Al 11/06/13 10:05, En/na Sampsa Laine ha escrit:
Got some spare cycles/RAM on one of my boxes, would be fun to run
TOPS-20 or Ultrix with DECNET?
Anyone got a working image / HOWTO on getting this going?
For TOPS-20, you can enable DECNET in the panda distribution with not too
much effort. I tried to explain how to do it here:
http://ancientbits.blogspot.com.es/2013/05/ten-over-pi.html
The main problem is the network setup. You will have to work in shared
mode and it can wreck the host machine NIC.
Aren't we mixing up a couple of things here?
The Panda distribution, as far as I know, runs on the KL, which SIMH does
not emulate. SIMH emulates the KS and right now you can't run DECnet on the
KS. There is work being done now to bring the KMC/DUP emulation to SIMH to
allow DECnet to run on the KS. You should contact the SIMH mailing list for
status on this.
Regards
Rob
Al 11/06/13 10:13, En/na Sampsa Laine ha escrit:
I'm running it in a VM (VirtualBox) - is this going to work?
Indeed, and it is easier to make it work than in a real machine :) Just add a virtual NIC to be used by KLH10 in dedicated mode and you will be set.
I used to run my TOPS-20 instance under a virtual box machine (with capped CPU) with one of those ultralean linux distros as host OS. IIRC the only weird thing I had to do was to force the vbox NICS at the host side (the "real" host) as promiscuous. Not sure why.