On 4 Jun 2013, at 18:26, "Dave McGuire" <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
You changed the IP address of the host machine running simh, and that
buggered your VMS licenses?
I find that very difficult to wrap my brain around. VERY difficult.
I've taken that almost to an extreme without issues. I also find that difficult to believe.
-Dave
On 06/04/2013 06:14 PM, Tony Blews wrote:
Aye, it is for VMS. I only mentioned the IP address stuff as last time I
re-jigged my network I had the same problem and had to re-register it all.
I'll try contacting Mr. Egolf before doing anything else.
Tony.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com
<mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote:
On 06/04/2013 06:01 PM, Tony Blews wrote:
I've had my machine (TARDIS) offline for a while due to moving house, being
hospitalised and then going on holiday.
So, now I've come to restart the thing, it seems my licenses have expired,
which shouldn't have happened until September. Could this be down to moving
the simh instance to a new machine and giving it a new ip address?
That should have no effect on the licensing. The OS running under the
emulator has no access to that information; it thinks it's a real VAX.
Anyway, where do i get the licenses from again? All the addresses I had
either don't work, or give me completely unrelated websites.
I assume this is for VMS? I can send you a license if needed.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
You changed the IP address of the host machine running simh, and that
buggered your VMS licenses?
I find that very difficult to wrap my brain around. VERY difficult.
-Dave
On 06/04/2013 06:14 PM, Tony Blews wrote:
Aye, it is for VMS. I only mentioned the IP address stuff as last time I
re-jigged my network I had the same problem and had to re-register it all.
I'll try contacting Mr. Egolf before doing anything else.
Tony.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com
<mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote:
On 06/04/2013 06:01 PM, Tony Blews wrote:
I've had my machine (TARDIS) offline for a while due to moving house, being
hospitalised and then going on holiday.
So, now I've come to restart the thing, it seems my licenses have expired,
which shouldn't have happened until September. Could this be down to moving
the simh instance to a new machine and giving it a new ip address?
That should have no effect on the licensing. The OS running under the
emulator has no access to that information; it thinks it's a real VAX.
Anyway, where do i get the licenses from again? All the addresses I had
either don't work, or give me completely unrelated websites.
I assume this is for VMS? I can send you a license if needed.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Well I've emailed him. I'll let you know.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-06-05 00:07, Mark Wickens wrote:
On 04/06/2013 23:01, Tony Blews wrote:
Hi,
I've had my machine (TARDIS) offline for a while due to moving house,
being hospitalised and then going on holiday.
So, now I've come to restart the thing, it seems my licenses have
expired, which shouldn't have happened until September. Could this be
down to moving the simh instance to a new machine and giving it a new
ip address?
Anyway, where do i get the licenses from again? All the addresses I
had either don't work, or give me completely unrelated websites.
Tony
(probably being stupid again)
Tony,
It should be here: http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist but it doesn't appear
to be very healthy at the moment.
If I remember right, that was the place before HP took more direct control over things a while ago. Now it's done directly with HP in some way, if I remember right.
The licenses were coming from John: John.Egolf at hp.com - you could try
emailing him directly to make sure the above URI is correct.
That is probably a good start.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 2013-06-05 00:07, Mark Wickens wrote:
On 04/06/2013 23:01, Tony Blews wrote:
Hi,
I've had my machine (TARDIS) offline for a while due to moving house,
being hospitalised and then going on holiday.
So, now I've come to restart the thing, it seems my licenses have
expired, which shouldn't have happened until September. Could this be
down to moving the simh instance to a new machine and giving it a new
ip address?
Anyway, where do i get the licenses from again? All the addresses I
had either don't work, or give me completely unrelated websites.
Tony
(probably being stupid again)
Tony,
It should be here: http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist but it doesn't appear
to be very healthy at the moment.
If I remember right, that was the place before HP took more direct control over things a while ago. Now it's done directly with HP in some way, if I remember right.
The licenses were coming from John: John.Egolf at hp.com - you could try
emailing him directly to make sure the above URI is correct.
That is probably a good start.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Aye, it is for VMS. I only mentioned the IP address stuff as last time I re-jigged my network I had the same problem and had to re-register it all.
I'll try contacting Mr. Egolf before doing anything else.
Tony.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 06/04/2013 06:01 PM, Tony Blews wrote:
> I've had my machine (TARDIS) offline for a while due to moving house, being
> hospitalised and then going on holiday.
> So, now I've come to restart the thing, it seems my licenses have expired,
> which shouldn't have happened until September. Could this be down to moving
> the simh instance to a new machine and giving it a new ip address?
That should have no effect on the licensing. The OS running under the
emulator has no access to that information; it thinks it's a real VAX.
> Anyway, where do i get the licenses from again? All the addresses I had
> either don't work, or give me completely unrelated websites.
I assume this is for VMS? I can send you a license if needed.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Thanks! I had the name John Golf stuck in my head for some reason.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
On 04/06/2013 23:01, Tony Blews wrote:
Hi,
I've had my machine (TARDIS) offline for a while due to moving house, being hospitalised and then going on holiday.
So, now I've come to restart the thing, it seems my licenses have expired, which shouldn't have happened until September. Could this be down to moving the simh instance to a new machine and giving it a new ip address?
Anyway, where do i get the licenses from again? All the addresses I had either don't work, or give me completely unrelated websites.
Tony
(probably being stupid again)
Tony,
It should be here: http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist but it doesn't appear to be very healthy at the moment.
The licenses were coming from John: John.Egolf at hp.com - you could try emailing him directly to make sure the above URI is correct.
Regards, Mark.
On 06/04/2013 06:01 PM, Tony Blews wrote:
I've had my machine (TARDIS) offline for a while due to moving house, being
hospitalised and then going on holiday.
So, now I've come to restart the thing, it seems my licenses have expired,
which shouldn't have happened until September. Could this be down to moving
the simh instance to a new machine and giving it a new ip address?
That should have no effect on the licensing. The OS running under the
emulator has no access to that information; it thinks it's a real VAX.
Anyway, where do i get the licenses from again? All the addresses I had
either don't work, or give me completely unrelated websites.
I assume this is for VMS? I can send you a license if needed.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 04/06/2013 23:01, Tony Blews wrote:
Hi,
I've had my machine (TARDIS) offline for a while due to moving house, being hospitalised and then going on holiday.
So, now I've come to restart the thing, it seems my licenses have expired, which shouldn't have happened until September. Could this be down to moving the simh instance to a new machine and giving it a new ip address?
Anyway, where do i get the licenses from again? All the addresses I had either don't work, or give me completely unrelated websites.
Tony
(probably being stupid again)
Tony,
It should be here: http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist but it doesn't appear to be very healthy at the moment.
The licenses were coming from John: John.Egolf at hp.com - you could try emailing him directly to make sure the above URI is correct.
Regards, Mark.
Hi,
I've had my machine (TARDIS) offline for a while due to moving house, being hospitalised and then going on holiday.
So, now I've come to restart the thing, it seems my licenses have expired, which shouldn't have happened until September. Could this be down to moving the simh instance to a new machine and giving it a new ip address?
Anyway, where do i get the licenses from again? All the addresses I had either don't work, or give me completely unrelated websites.
Tony
(probably being stupid again)
My apologies if some find this as spam, but I suspect this group might also find this a worth while read.
Full discloser, I have known John since 1983 or 1984 (I do not remember when we were co-worked at the firm he talks about in the article [Masscomp]. I have also read of number of his books and liked them. In my role as President of USENIX, I allowed John to hawk his books at some of our conferences, but other than buying his books, I have never given him $s.
http://my-thoughts-exactly.wetmachine.com/the-meme-hustler-hustler-evgeny-m…
Clem
Note: I predated John at Masscomp (and I think he left for Sun before I left for Stellar). I have mentioned previously on this list that MSCP was an early 1980s a start up with a lot of ex-VMS/VAX guys (that predated Sun and actually did $20M in business the year Sun did it's first $1M).. Tim, Janet and I shared a card table as our first desk. I think John and Steve did get hired until we expanded to the 2 bldg in Littleton and kicked SW out. Everything in the piece WRT to Masscomp I will valid as true, and like John; when I have run into Tim in the past few years I'm not sure he recognized me either [although unlike John, I do still exchange christmas cards with Steve Talbot and just two weeks ago got an email from Tim about something else].
I completely agree with John's point about about Eric Raymond too BTW. And John makes a side bar, that "open source" being co-opted from the 60s. He's stumbled on that right. I have always said the "father" of Open Source was the late Prof Donald O. Peterson (aka dop) from what he did in the late 1960s. But that's a story for another time.
