On Tue, 24 Apr 2013, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-04-24 02:05, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-04-24 00:26, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Johnny
I like your suggestion of the same area on both sides. Do you have a
candidate area number? Do we have any Italian Decnet members here
that are interested in this project? Pointless if they don't want us :)
22 is the first "free" area we have...
But yes, before anything can be done, we do need the italians being
interested.
I'd be surprised if none of them were on this list lurking.
Oh, at least one is here. And not really lurking either.
I figured as much.
Johnny
Johnny
Ian
Sent from my iPhone
On 2013-04-23, at 3:19 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-04-24 00:04, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Yes, the Cisco can do area remapping.
Sweet.
We only need to remap at the single border point - everyone in
HECnet will see them as one area and everyone in the Italian Decnet
will see them as the other area.
Sounds like it should be doable. Yes, a single connection in
between, where the remapping takes place. And then we should be set
to go.
Interesting how to solve it, though. From the HECnet side, we just
need to remap a chosen area that is designated for the italian
network. The italian network needs to also do a remapping. Area 1 on
HECnet needs to be mapped into some other area on their side.
Possibly using the same area as is used for the italians on the
HECnet side.
And then, of course, the nodename database needs massaging from
their point of view. Which might also be a fair piece of work...
Johnny
Ian
On 2013-04-23, at 3:03 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-04-24 00:01, Robert Jarratt wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Tim Sneddon
Sent: 23 April 2013 18:44
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: [HECnet] Italian DECnet...
Hi,
I know there had been discussion before about bringing these two
together.
Although, I must admit that I didn't pay too much attention to
what went on,
just that I don't think it happened. So, tell me to get lost if
this has been
suggested or if nobody cares...
Now that we have Cisco routers and DECbrouters on the network, has
anyone considered connecting a GRE tunnel into their network and
then
using the DECnet address translation gateway in IOS to map their
network to
an area we allocate specifically for them. That way there is no
merging as
such, just a bit of "gluing".
Regards, Tim.
If I had a spec for what is needed I could probably also
implement what is needed for the user mode router I have written,
it would give a little bit of flexibility too as the code is
readily available.
Is the Italian HECnet all one area, or are there multiple areas?
As far as I can remember it's all in one area.
Can Cisco's do area remapping? If so, then let's do it, assuming
the italians are interested and have some Cisco box.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
---
Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or
not-spam here:
http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=9A4E730CAC6111E2B…
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
---
Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam
here:
http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=E50FF58AAC6311E2B…
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments
On 2013-04-24 02:05, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-04-24 00:26, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Johnny
I like your suggestion of the same area on both sides. Do you have a
candidate area number? Do we have any Italian Decnet members here
that are interested in this project? Pointless if they don't want us :)
22 is the first "free" area we have...
But yes, before anything can be done, we do need the italians being
interested.
I'd be surprised if none of them were on this list lurking.
Oh, at least one is here. And not really lurking either.
Johnny
Johnny
Ian
Sent from my iPhone
On 2013-04-23, at 3:19 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-04-24 00:04, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Yes, the Cisco can do area remapping.
Sweet.
We only need to remap at the single border point - everyone in
HECnet will see them as one area and everyone in the Italian Decnet
will see them as the other area.
Sounds like it should be doable. Yes, a single connection in
between, where the remapping takes place. And then we should be set
to go.
Interesting how to solve it, though. From the HECnet side, we just
need to remap a chosen area that is designated for the italian
network. The italian network needs to also do a remapping. Area 1 on
HECnet needs to be mapped into some other area on their side.
Possibly using the same area as is used for the italians on the
HECnet side.
And then, of course, the nodename database needs massaging from
their point of view. Which might also be a fair piece of work...
Johnny
Ian
On 2013-04-23, at 3:03 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-04-24 00:01, Robert Jarratt wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Tim Sneddon
Sent: 23 April 2013 18:44
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: [HECnet] Italian DECnet...
Hi,
I know there had been discussion before about bringing these two
together.
Although, I must admit that I didn't pay too much attention to
what went on,
just that I don't think it happened. So, tell me to get lost if
this has been
suggested or if nobody cares...
Now that we have Cisco routers and DECbrouters on the network, has
anyone considered connecting a GRE tunnel into their network and
then
using the DECnet address translation gateway in IOS to map their
network to
an area we allocate specifically for them. That way there is no
merging as
such, just a bit of "gluing".
Regards, Tim.
If I had a spec for what is needed I could probably also
implement what is needed for the user mode router I have written,
it would give a little bit of flexibility too as the code is
readily available.
Is the Italian HECnet all one area, or are there multiple areas?
As far as I can remember it's all in one area.
Can Cisco's do area remapping? If so, then let's do it, assuming
the italians are interested and have some Cisco box.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
---
Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or
not-spam here:
http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=9A4E730CAC6111E2B…
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
---
Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam
here:
http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=E50FF58AAC6311E2B…
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-04-24 00:26, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Johnny
I like your suggestion of the same area on both sides. Do you have a candidate area number? Do we have any Italian Decnet members here that are interested in this project? Pointless if they don't want us :)
22 is the first "free" area we have...
But yes, before anything can be done, we do need the italians being
interested.
I'd be surprised if none of them were on this list lurking.
Johnny
Ian
Sent from my iPhone
On 2013-04-23, at 3:19 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-04-24 00:04, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Yes, the Cisco can do area remapping.
Sweet.
We only need to remap at the single border point - everyone in HECnet will see them as one area and everyone in the Italian Decnet will see them as the other area.
Sounds like it should be doable. Yes, a single connection in between, where the remapping takes place. And then we should be set to go.
Interesting how to solve it, though. From the HECnet side, we just need to remap a chosen area that is designated for the italian network. The italian network needs to also do a remapping. Area 1 on HECnet needs to be mapped into some other area on their side. Possibly using the same area as is used for the italians on the HECnet side.
And then, of course, the nodename database needs massaging from their point of view. Which might also be a fair piece of work...
Johnny
Ian
On 2013-04-23, at 3:03 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-04-24 00:01, Robert Jarratt wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Tim Sneddon
Sent: 23 April 2013 18:44
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: [HECnet] Italian DECnet...
Hi,
I know there had been discussion before about bringing these two together.
Although, I must admit that I didn't pay too much attention to what went on,
just that I don't think it happened. So, tell me to get lost if this has been
suggested or if nobody cares...
Now that we have Cisco routers and DECbrouters on the network, has
anyone considered connecting a GRE tunnel into their network and then
using the DECnet address translation gateway in IOS to map their network to
an area we allocate specifically for them. That way there is no merging as
such, just a bit of "gluing".
Regards, Tim.
If I had a spec for what is needed I could probably also implement what is needed for the user mode router I have written, it would give a little bit of flexibility too as the code is readily available.
Is the Italian HECnet all one area, or are there multiple areas?
As far as I can remember it's all in one area.
Can Cisco's do area remapping? If so, then let's do it, assuming the italians are interested and have some Cisco box.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
---
Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=9A4E730CAC6111E2B…
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
---
Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=E50FF58AAC6311E2B…
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments
On 2013-04-24 00:26, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Johnny
I like your suggestion of the same area on both sides. Do you have a candidate area number? Do we have any Italian Decnet members here that are interested in this project? Pointless if they don't want us :)
22 is the first "free" area we have...
But yes, before anything can be done, we do need the italians being interested.
Johnny
Ian
Sent from my iPhone
On 2013-04-23, at 3:19 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-04-24 00:04, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Yes, the Cisco can do area remapping.
Sweet.
We only need to remap at the single border point - everyone in HECnet will see them as one area and everyone in the Italian Decnet will see them as the other area.
Sounds like it should be doable. Yes, a single connection in between, where the remapping takes place. And then we should be set to go.
Interesting how to solve it, though. From the HECnet side, we just need to remap a chosen area that is designated for the italian network. The italian network needs to also do a remapping. Area 1 on HECnet needs to be mapped into some other area on their side. Possibly using the same area as is used for the italians on the HECnet side.
And then, of course, the nodename database needs massaging from their point of view. Which might also be a fair piece of work...
Johnny
Ian
On 2013-04-23, at 3:03 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-04-24 00:01, Robert Jarratt wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Tim Sneddon
Sent: 23 April 2013 18:44
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: [HECnet] Italian DECnet...
Hi,
I know there had been discussion before about bringing these two together.
Although, I must admit that I didn't pay too much attention to what went on,
just that I don't think it happened. So, tell me to get lost if this has been
suggested or if nobody cares...
Now that we have Cisco routers and DECbrouters on the network, has
anyone considered connecting a GRE tunnel into their network and then
using the DECnet address translation gateway in IOS to map their network to
an area we allocate specifically for them. That way there is no merging as
such, just a bit of "gluing".
Regards, Tim.
If I had a spec for what is needed I could probably also implement what is needed for the user mode router I have written, it would give a little bit of flexibility too as the code is readily available.
Is the Italian HECnet all one area, or are there multiple areas?
As far as I can remember it's all in one area.
Can Cisco's do area remapping? If so, then let's do it, assuming the italians are interested and have some Cisco box.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
---
Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=9A4E730CAC6111E2B…
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
---
Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=E50FF58AAC6311E2B…
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Johnny
I like your suggestion of the same area on both sides. Do you have a candidate area number? Do we have any Italian Decnet members here that are interested in this project? Pointless if they don't want us :)
Ian
Sent from my iPhone
On 2013-04-23, at 3:19 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-04-24 00:04, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Yes, the Cisco can do area remapping.
Sweet.
We only need to remap at the single border point - everyone in HECnet will see them as one area and everyone in the Italian Decnet will see them as the other area.
Sounds like it should be doable. Yes, a single connection in between, where the remapping takes place. And then we should be set to go.
Interesting how to solve it, though. From the HECnet side, we just need to remap a chosen area that is designated for the italian network. The italian network needs to also do a remapping. Area 1 on HECnet needs to be mapped into some other area on their side. Possibly using the same area as is used for the italians on the HECnet side.
And then, of course, the nodename database needs massaging from their point of view. Which might also be a fair piece of work...
Johnny
Ian
On 2013-04-23, at 3:03 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-04-24 00:01, Robert Jarratt wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Tim Sneddon
Sent: 23 April 2013 18:44
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: [HECnet] Italian DECnet...
Hi,
I know there had been discussion before about bringing these two together.
Although, I must admit that I didn't pay too much attention to what went on,
just that I don't think it happened. So, tell me to get lost if this has been
suggested or if nobody cares...
Now that we have Cisco routers and DECbrouters on the network, has
anyone considered connecting a GRE tunnel into their network and then
using the DECnet address translation gateway in IOS to map their network to
an area we allocate specifically for them. That way there is no merging as
such, just a bit of "gluing".
Regards, Tim.
If I had a spec for what is needed I could probably also implement what is needed for the user mode router I have written, it would give a little bit of flexibility too as the code is readily available.
Is the Italian HECnet all one area, or are there multiple areas?
As far as I can remember it's all in one area.
Can Cisco's do area remapping? If so, then let's do it, assuming the italians are interested and have some Cisco box.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
---
Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=9A4E730CAC6111E2B…
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
---
Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=E50FF58AAC6311E2B…
On 2013-04-24 00:04, Ian McLaughlin wrote:
Yes, the Cisco can do area remapping.
Sweet.
We only need to remap at the single border point - everyone in HECnet will see them as one area and everyone in the Italian Decnet will see them as the other area.
Sounds like it should be doable. Yes, a single connection in between, where the remapping takes place. And then we should be set to go.
Interesting how to solve it, though. From the HECnet side, we just need to remap a chosen area that is designated for the italian network. The italian network needs to also do a remapping. Area 1 on HECnet needs to be mapped into some other area on their side. Possibly using the same area as is used for the italians on the HECnet side.
And then, of course, the nodename database needs massaging from their point of view. Which might also be a fair piece of work...
Johnny
Ian
On 2013-04-23, at 3:03 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-04-24 00:01, Robert Jarratt wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Tim Sneddon
Sent: 23 April 2013 18:44
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: [HECnet] Italian DECnet...
Hi,
I know there had been discussion before about bringing these two together.
Although, I must admit that I didn't pay too much attention to what went on,
just that I don't think it happened. So, tell me to get lost if this has been
suggested or if nobody cares...
Now that we have Cisco routers and DECbrouters on the network, has
anyone considered connecting a GRE tunnel into their network and then
using the DECnet address translation gateway in IOS to map their network to
an area we allocate specifically for them. That way there is no merging as
such, just a bit of "gluing".
Regards, Tim.
If I had a spec for what is needed I could probably also implement what is needed for the user mode router I have written, it would give a little bit of flexibility too as the code is readily available.
Is the Italian HECnet all one area, or are there multiple areas?
As far as I can remember it's all in one area.
Can Cisco's do area remapping? If so, then let's do it, assuming the italians are interested and have some Cisco box.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
---
Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=9A4E730CAC6111E2B…
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Yes, the Cisco can do area remapping.
We only need to remap at the single border point - everyone in HECnet will see them as one area and everyone in the Italian Decnet will see them as the other area.
Ian
On 2013-04-23, at 3:03 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-04-24 00:01, Robert Jarratt wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Tim Sneddon
Sent: 23 April 2013 18:44
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: [HECnet] Italian DECnet...
Hi,
I know there had been discussion before about bringing these two together.
Although, I must admit that I didn't pay too much attention to what went on,
just that I don't think it happened. So, tell me to get lost if this has been
suggested or if nobody cares...
Now that we have Cisco routers and DECbrouters on the network, has
anyone considered connecting a GRE tunnel into their network and then
using the DECnet address translation gateway in IOS to map their network to
an area we allocate specifically for them. That way there is no merging as
such, just a bit of "gluing".
Regards, Tim.
If I had a spec for what is needed I could probably also implement what is needed for the user mode router I have written, it would give a little bit of flexibility too as the code is readily available.
Is the Italian HECnet all one area, or are there multiple areas?
As far as I can remember it's all in one area.
Can Cisco's do area remapping? If so, then let's do it, assuming the italians are interested and have some Cisco box.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
---
Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=9A4E730CAC6111E2B…
On 2013-04-24 00:01, Robert Jarratt wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Tim Sneddon
Sent: 23 April 2013 18:44
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: [HECnet] Italian DECnet...
Hi,
I know there had been discussion before about bringing these two together.
Although, I must admit that I didn't pay too much attention to what went on,
just that I don't think it happened. So, tell me to get lost if this has been
suggested or if nobody cares...
Now that we have Cisco routers and DECbrouters on the network, has
anyone considered connecting a GRE tunnel into their network and then
using the DECnet address translation gateway in IOS to map their network to
an area we allocate specifically for them. That way there is no merging as
such, just a bit of "gluing".
Regards, Tim.
If I had a spec for what is needed I could probably also implement what is needed for the user mode router I have written, it would give a little bit of flexibility too as the code is readily available.
Is the Italian HECnet all one area, or are there multiple areas?
As far as I can remember it's all in one area.
Can Cisco's do area remapping? If so, then let's do it, assuming the italians are interested and have some Cisco box.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Tim Sneddon
Sent: 23 April 2013 18:44
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: [HECnet] Italian DECnet...
Hi,
I know there had been discussion before about bringing these two together.
Although, I must admit that I didn't pay too much attention to what went on,
just that I don't think it happened. So, tell me to get lost if this has been
suggested or if nobody cares...
Now that we have Cisco routers and DECbrouters on the network, has
anyone considered connecting a GRE tunnel into their network and then
using the DECnet address translation gateway in IOS to map their network to
an area we allocate specifically for them. That way there is no merging as
such, just a bit of "gluing".
Regards, Tim.
If I had a spec for what is needed I could probably also implement what is needed for the user mode router I have written, it would give a little bit of flexibility too as the code is readily available.
Is the Italian HECnet all one area, or are there multiple areas?
Regards
Rob
Hi,
I know there had been discussion before about bringing these two together. Although, I must admit that I didn't pay too much attention to what went on, just that I don't think it happened. So, tell me to get lost if this has been suggested or if nobody cares...
Now that we have Cisco routers and DECbrouters on the network, has anyone considered connecting a GRE tunnel into their network and then using the DECnet address translation gateway in IOS to map their network to an area we allocate specifically for them. That way there is no merging as such, just a bit of "gluing".
Regards, Tim.
