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by b4＠gewt.net

On 26 Jul 2013, at 10:05, Paul_Koning <Paul_Koning at Dell.com> wrote: If you dropped into the simh prompt, that would make it a simh bug. And that message looks like a Unix message; it doesn't look like a RSTS message. That s what I was thinking. Issue persists with both -O2 and -O0 so it s not GCC being stupid (for once). This is latest git issue isn t present in 3.9. paul On Jul 26, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Morning all, Restoring MAIL installation files from the MAIL Library kit TQ I/O error: Resource temporarily unavailable I/O error, PC: 102054 (SOB R1,102052) sim> I can't even begin to find what would cause this...is it a bug in SIMH or have I found the weirdest IPC error yet? Is it an underlying I/O error on the disk? -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

12 years, 4 months

Bizarre RSTS/E and SIMH issue...

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

If you dropped into the simh prompt, that would make it a simh bug. And that message looks like a Unix message; it doesn't look like a RSTS message. paul On Jul 26, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Morning all, Restoring MAIL installation files from the MAIL Library kit TQ I/O error: Resource temporarily unavailable I/O error, PC: 102054 (SOB R1,102052) sim> I can't even begin to find what would cause this...is it a bug in SIMH or have I found the weirdest IPC error yet? Is it an underlying I/O error on the disk? -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

12 years, 4 months

Bizarre RSTS/E and SIMH issue...

by b4＠gewt.net

Morning all, Restoring MAIL installation files from the MAIL Library kit TQ I/O error: Resource temporarily unavailable I/O error, PC: 102054 (SOB R1,102052) sim> I can't even begin to find what would cause this...is it a bug in SIMH or have I found the weirdest IPC error yet? Is it an underlying I/O error on the disk? -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

12 years, 4 months

Need help with VT220 down-line loadable characters (DECDLD)

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2013-07-23 23:58, Mark Abene wrote: Assuming you're aware of this page: http://www.vt100.net/docs/vt510-rm/DECDLD Johnny, wasn't there a version of Pac-man using DECDLD graphics written in your neck of the woods? I seem to remember it was written in Pascal on TOPS-20, possibly at KTH. Quite possibly, but I can't recall offhand. I have (had) some prank fonts, as well as my own designed fonts for the Z-machine. And I know there is a GIF viewer out there, which uses soft fonts to render pictures on some VT terminals (not sure exactly which ones, though...). Johnny -Mark On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Julian Wolfe <julian at twinax.org <mailto:julian at twinax.org>> wrote: I know this is a bit off-topic, but I was playing around with the DECDLD commands in the VT220 programmer's reference guide to make character graphics on the VT220 (I'm actually using Mac240, a VT220 emulator that has full DECDLD support at a VT220 level) I'm having a problem getting characters to join at the top of the cell. The top two pixels don't seem to meet. I see some material about VT320 but the addressing of the matrix seems quite different on that terminal. I'm using 7-bit encoding to create the characters. Do I need to use 8-bit in order to use the full matrix? I'd be surprised if anyone on here has actually messed with this, but I thought it was worth a shot. I can also toss my work at whoever has a VT220 lying around to see if they can test it as well. Any input is appreciated (as long as I can decode it, ha ha) Julian -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

12 years, 4 months

Need help with VT220 down-line loadable characters (DECDLD)

by phiber＠phiber.com

Sorry, I meant: http://www.vt100.net/docs/vt220-rm/table4-9.html ...since you said vt220. Pcms and/or Pt are probably what you're having issue with. -Mark On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: Assuming you're aware of this page: http://www.vt100.net/docs/vt510-rm/DECDLD Johnny, wasn't there a version of Pac-man using DECDLD graphics written in your neck of the woods? I seem to remember it was written in Pascal on TOPS-20, possibly at KTH. -Mark On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Julian Wolfe <julian at twinax.org> wrote: I know this is a bit off-topic, but I was playing around with the DECDLD commands in the VT220 programmer's reference guide to make character graphics on the VT220 (I'm actually using Mac240, a VT220 emulator that has full DECDLD support at a VT220 level) I'm having a problem getting characters to join at the top of the cell. The top two pixels don't seem to meet. I see some material about VT320 but the addressing of the matrix seems quite different on that terminal. I'm using 7-bit encoding to create the characters. Do I need to use 8-bit in order to use the full matrix? I'd be surprised if anyone on here has actually messed with this, but I thought it was worth a shot. I can also toss my work at whoever has a VT220 lying around to see if they can test it as well. Any input is appreciated (as long as I can decode it, ha ha) Julian

12 years, 4 months

Need help with VT220 down-line loadable characters (DECDLD)

by phiber＠phiber.com

Assuming you're aware of this page: http://www.vt100.net/docs/vt510-rm/DECDLD Johnny, wasn't there a version of Pac-man using DECDLD graphics written in your neck of the woods? I seem to remember it was written in Pascal on TOPS-20, possibly at KTH. -Mark On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Julian Wolfe <julian at twinax.org> wrote: I know this is a bit off-topic, but I was playing around with the DECDLD commands in the VT220 programmer's reference guide to make character graphics on the VT220 (I'm actually using Mac240, a VT220 emulator that has full DECDLD support at a VT220 level) I'm having a problem getting characters to join at the top of the cell. The top two pixels don't seem to meet. I see some material about VT320 but the addressing of the matrix seems quite different on that terminal. I'm using 7-bit encoding to create the characters. Do I need to use 8-bit in order to use the full matrix? I'd be surprised if anyone on here has actually messed with this, but I thought it was worth a shot. I can also toss my work at whoever has a VT220 lying around to see if they can test it as well. Any input is appreciated (as long as I can decode it, ha ha) Julian

12 years, 4 months

klh10 on FreeBSD/SPARC64 progress

by b4＠gewt.net

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Cory Smelosky wrote: Final update: All is working as it should. Enabling SYSVIPS in jails, manually modifying the arp tables the way dpni20 does it, and manually changing the MAC addresses and I have TOPS-10 and TOPS-20 jailed on FreeBSD/SPARC. (Oh...can't forget the devfs rules to allow access to /dev/bpf in a jail!) -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

12 years, 4 months

Announcing DEC Legacy 2013, October 19th/20th, Marchesi Centre, Windermere

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

With Johnny's gracious permission: DEC Legacy is back! To be held on October 19th and 20th 2013 at the usual venue, The Marchesi Centre, in Windermere, Cumbria, UK. More details on the website: http://declegacy.org.uk Registration is now open, please follow the Registration tab at the top of the page. Last time the event was opened to anyone with an interest in the highlights of 20th Century computer technology - this provided an interesting mix of hardware from a variety of manufacturers. I would like to continue the event in this vein. So if you own interesting hardware, whatever the origin, we would love to see you at the event. There will hopefully be a couple keynote speakers this time as well, to be announced. Please feel free to forward this email to anyone who might have an interest. I look forward to catching up with familiar faces and making some new acquaintances. Regards, Mark.

12 years, 4 months

klh10 on FreeBSD/SPARC64 progress

by b4＠gewt.net

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Cory Smelosky wrote: Using klh10-2.0h with the same patch: Starting KN10 at loc 0703667... [KLH10: Illegal exec mode op, PC = 6: 0 0,0][HALTED: Exec program error? ("set cpu_exsafe=1" to continue)] Endianness issue? Nevermind, found the problem: change -O3 in CFLAGS to -O0 and all is good. root at maddy:/jails/green/home/b4/marley # ./kn10-kl twonky.ini KLH10 V2.0H (MyKL) built Jul 23 2013 09:51:19 Copyright ? 2002 Kenneth L. Harrenstien -- All Rights Reserved. This program comes "AS IS" with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. Compiled for FREEBSD on SPARC with word model USEGCCSPARC Emulated config: CPU: KL10-extend SYS: T20 Pager: KL APRID: 3600 Memory: 8192 pages of 512 words (SHARED) Time interval: INTRP Base: OSGET Interval default: 60Hz Internal clock: OSINT Other: MCA25 JPC DEBUG PCCACHE CTYINT EVHINT Devices: DTE RH20 RPXX(DP) TM03(DP) NI20(DP) [MEM: Allocating 8192 pages shared memory, clearing...done] KLH10# ; KLH10 configuration for TOPS-10 test system KLH10# KLH10# ; DTE requires ackdly to avoid T10 race condition KLH10# devdef dte0 200 dte master ackdly=5 KLH10# devdef rh0 540 rh20 KLH10# devdef rh1 544 rh20 KLH10# devdef dsk0 rh0.0 rp type=rp06 sn=4747 format=dbd9 path=T10-RP06.0-dbd9 KLH10# devdef dsk1 rh0.1 rp type=rp06 sn=1026 format=dbd9 path=T10-RP06.1-dbd9 KLH10# devdef dsk2 rh0.2 rp type=rp06 sn=3737 format=dbd9 path=T10-RP06.cust.0-dbd9 KLH10# devdef dsk3 rh0.3 rp type=rp06 sn=5858 format=dbd9 path=stag.dsk KLH10# devdef mta0 rh1.0 tm03 type=TU77 KLH10# devdef idler 740 host KLH10# KLH10# ; NI: param "c3dly" to avoid T10 race. KLH10# ; NI: param "rdtmo" to avoid system hangups with OSF/1 V3.0 KLH10# ; KLH10# ; Decnet node TWONKY, 9.429 KLH10# devdef ni0 564 ni20 dedic=1 decnet=1 doarp=0 enaddr=aa:00:04:00:a:24 ifc=qfe0 dpdelay=12 c3dly=3 rdtmo=3 KLH10# KLH10# load klboot.exe Using word format "c36"... Loaded "klboot.exe": Format: DEC-PEXE Data: 0, Symwds: 0, Low: 01000000, High: 0, Startaddress: 0703667 Entvec: 0 wds at 0 KLH10# [EOF on twonky.ini] KLH10# go Starting KN10 at loc 0703667... BOOT V4(100) BOOT>monidl [Loading from DSKB:MONIDL.EXE[1,4]] MARLEY TOPS-10 MONITOR 15-May-13 Why reload: test Options are: OPR PARITY POWER STATIC HARDWA NXM HALT LOOP HUNG PM CM SA NEW SCHED OTHER Type "HELP" for additional information Why reload: other;test Date: 23-JUL-2013 Time: 05:54 [dpni20: Fatal error: BIOCSETIF failed for interface "qfe0" - Device not configured] %[DTEI: 146 (old 146!)]% [DTEI: 144 (old 146!)][DTEI: 177 (old 144!)]K[DTEI: 15 (old 177!)]LNI microcode load failed on NIA20 564 Microprocessor check ^O % Bad response, try again Startup option: Options are: CHANGE DEFINE DESTRO DISSOL GO NOINIT REFRES SHOW Type "HELP" for additional information Startup option: go [Rebuilding the system search list from the HOM blocks] [Rebuilding the active swapping list from the HOM blocks] [Rebuilding the system dump list from the HOM blocks] MARLEY TOPS-10 MONITOR 05:54:56 CTY system 3600 Connected to Node MARLEY(0) Line CTY .LOGIN 1,2 .R OPR [CCPWFD Waiting for file daemon to start] %%TTY STOMPER - Starting OPR> 5:55:12 -- Log file DSKB:OPERAT.LOG[3,3] renamed to DSKB:OPERAT.005[3,3] -- OPR>quit ? Invalid OPR command specified: "quit" ? : "quit" OPR>exit . I will investigate further later and see if I can't get it to run in a jail...at present it segfaults upon attempting to load the monitor if run in a jail. If run outside a jail it boots fine...I still have yet to test stability. Networking is also functional: $ set host/app=rterm marley %REM-I-CONNECTION, connection made using RTERM protocol %REM-I-REMOTE, connection established to remote node MARLEY:: MARLEY TOPS-10 MONITOR 06:02:15 TTY4 system 3600 Connected to Node 9.13 Please LOGIN .login csmelosky Job 15 MARLEY TOPS-10 MONITOR TTY4 Password: [LGNLAS Last access to [400,400] succeeded on 25-May-13:21:03:33] 06:02 23-Jul-13 Tuesday Welcome to MARLEY. A part of the gimme-sympathy.org family. This is a simulated DECSYSTEM-10. It is configured with: 1). Ethernet (HECnet address: 9,10) 2). 4 RP06 disks (DSKB:, TSU:, USER:, DSKA:) 3). 4096K memory To request an account: email b4 at gewt.net or MAIL GEWT::b4. I will later write up a blog post or something and see if -O2 will work. Amusingly enough: idling in klh10 works, too... -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

12 years, 5 months

klh10 on FreeBSD/SPARC64 progress

by b4＠gewt.net

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Cory Smelosky wrote: Morning all, I've made a bit of progress...it builds now. [b4 at green ~/marley]$ uname -a FreeBSD green 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0 r243836: Tue Dec 4 15:49:34 UTC 2012 root at heller.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC sparc64 [b4 at green ~/marley]$ ./kn10-kl twonky.ini KLH10 V2.0A release (MyKL) built Jul 23 2013 09:24:42 Copyright ? 2001 Kenneth L. Harrenstien -- All Rights Reserved. This program comes "AS IS" with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. Compiled for LINUX on I386 with word model USEINT Emulated config: CPU: KL10-extend SYS: T20 Pager: KL APRID: 1 Memory: 8192 pages of 512 words (SHARED) Time interval: INTRP Base: OSGET Interval default: 60Hz Internal clock: OSINT Other: MCA25 JPC DEBUG PCCACHE CTYINT EVHINT Devices: DTE RH20 RPXX(DP) TM03(DP) NI20(DP) [MEM: Allocating 8192 pages [os_mmcreate: shmget failed for 33554432 bytes - Function not implemented] private memory, clearing...done] KLH10> ; KLH10 configuration for TOPS-10 test system KLH10> KLH10> ; DTE requires ackdly to avoid T10 race condition KLH10> devdef dte0 200 dte master ackdly=5 KLH10> devdef rh0 540 rh20 KLH10> devdef rh1 544 rh20 KLH10> devdef dsk0 rh0.0 rp type=rp06 sn=4747 format=dbd9 path=T10-RP06.0-dbd9 [dp_init: shmget failed - 78] RPXX subproc init failed! Final init of device "dsk0" failed! KLH10> devdef dsk1 rh0.1 rp type=rp06 sn=1026 format=dbd9 path=T10-RP06.1-dbd9 [dp_init: shmget failed - 78] RPXX subproc init failed! Final init of device "dsk1" failed! KLH10> devdef dsk2 rh0.2 rp type=rp06 sn=3737 format=dbd9 path=T10-RP06.cust.0-dbd9 [dp_init: shmget failed - 78] RPXX subproc init failed! Final init of device "dsk2" failed! KLH10> devdef dsk3 rh0.3 rp type=rp06 sn=5858 format=dbd9 path=stag.dsk [dp_init: shmget failed - 78] RPXX subproc init failed! Final init of device "dsk3" failed! KLH10> devdef mta0 rh1.0 tm03 type=TU77 [dp_init: shmget failed - 78] TM03 subproc init failed! Final init of device "mta0" failed! KLH10> devdef idler 740 host KLH10> KLH10> ; NI: param "c3dly" to avoid T10 race. KLH10> ; NI: param "rdtmo" to avoid system hangups with OSF/1 V3.0 KLH10> ; KLH10> ; Decnet node TWONKY, 9.429 KLH10> devdef ni0 564 ni20 dedic=1 decnet=1 doarp=0 enaddr=aa:00:04:00:a:24 ifc=qfe0 dpdelay=12 c3dly=3 rdtmo=3 [dp_init: shmget failed - 78] NI20 subproc init failed! Final init of device "ni0" failed! KLH10> KLH10> load klboot.exe Using word format "c36"... Loaded "klboot.exe": Format: DEC-PEXE Data: 0, Symwds: 0, Low: 01000000, High: 0, Startaddress: 0703667 Entvec: 0 wds at 0 KLH10> [EOF on twonky.ini] KLH10> quit Are you sure you want to quit? [Confirm] Shutting down...Bye! http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports-bugs/2006-September/102395… and a little bit on Jordi's blog helped me get it to build. Obviously there's still a ways to go...but this is progress.,,, Using klh10-2.0h with the same patch: Starting KN10 at loc 0703667... [KLH10: Illegal exec mode op, PC = 6: 0 0,0][HALTED: Exec program error? ("set cpu_exsafe=1" to continue)] Endianness issue? -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

12 years, 5 months

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