On 09/27/2013 04:06 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Ahh ok. Well, if I run the 11/24, I obviously won't be running
that
stack. :) I may run an 11/44 instead.
Running M+ on an 11/23 or 11/24 (the only systems without I/D space that
M+ supports) is perhaps not the most wonderful experience anyway. Since
you don't have split I/D-space on those systems, system pool becomes
really scarce. And that is not fun.
An 11/44 is so much better.
Yeah I suppose so.
I've never run Plus on anything. I've run plain M on lots of stuff
though; it's fine on an 11/23. I guess Plus is a lot heavier for all of
its additional functionality.
Depends on what you mean by "heavier". The performance is mostly better,
the capabilities are much greater, and it's much more user friendly and
fun. But it takes loads of more memory for all of this.
Actually better performance, even with all those neat features? Wow,
that's surprising and nice to hear...Very nice! I really need to do
something with Plus.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 2013-09-27 21:29, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 09/27/2013 01:47 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Ahh ok. Well, if I run the 11/24, I obviously won't be running that
stack. :) I may run an 11/44 instead.
Running M+ on an 11/23 or 11/24 (the only systems without I/D space that
M+ supports) is perhaps not the most wonderful experience anyway. Since
you don't have split I/D-space on those systems, system pool becomes
really scarce. And that is not fun.
An 11/44 is so much better.
Yeah I suppose so.
I've never run Plus on anything. I've run plain M on lots of stuff
though; it's fine on an 11/23. I guess Plus is a lot heavier for all of
its additional functionality.
Depends on what you mean by "heavier". The performance is mostly better, the capabilities are much greater, and it's much more user friendly and fun. But it takes loads of more memory for all of this.
Johnny
On 2013-09-27 21:10, Lee Gleason wrote:
Running M+ on an 11/23 or 11/24 (the only systems without I/D space
that M+ supports) is perhaps not the most wonderful experience anyway.
Since you don't have split I/D-space on those systems, system pool
becomes really scarce. And that is not fun.
I read in old issues of the MultiTasker that it didn't take much to
get M+ to run on an 18 bit address space non I&D system.
It is actually easy to do, and the code will recognize pretty much any CPU at boot time. But you need to poke into [200,200]SGNPREFIX.CMD, and enable it. Which implicitly means you'll have an unsupported system.
They did mention that there wasn't a lot of pool left...
I can imagine, but I have never tested it.
Haven't had occasion to try it yet.
An 11/44 is so much better.
Without a doubt - the next best thing to an 11/70.
Yes. Nothing comes close to the satisfaction of an 11/70. :-)
Johnny
On 09/27/2013 01:47 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Ahh ok. Well, if I run the 11/24, I obviously won't be running that
stack. :) I may run an 11/44 instead.
Running M+ on an 11/23 or 11/24 (the only systems without I/D space that
M+ supports) is perhaps not the most wonderful experience anyway. Since
you don't have split I/D-space on those systems, system pool becomes
really scarce. And that is not fun.
An 11/44 is so much better.
Yeah I suppose so.
I've never run Plus on anything. I've run plain M on lots of stuff
though; it's fine on an 11/23. I guess Plus is a lot heavier for all of
its additional functionality.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 09/27/2013 03:10 PM, Lee Gleason wrote:
An 11/44 is so much better.
Without a doubt - the next best thing to an 11/70.
Yes. I will run either an 11/44 or an 11/24 through the winter, on
HECnet. I may have the 11/70 up periodically, but I don't yet have an
Ethernet interface installed...that's a tough one because I'll need to
set up an Unibus expansion chassis to accommodate one.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Running M+ on an 11/23 or 11/24 (the only systems without I/D space that M+ supports) is perhaps not the most wonderful experience anyway. Since you don't have split I/D-space on those systems, system pool becomes really scarce. And that is not fun.
I read in old issues of the MultiTasker that it didn't take much to get M+ to run on an 18 bit address space non I&D system.
They did mention that there wasn't a lot of pool left...
Haven't had occasion to try it yet.
An 11/44 is so much better.
Without a doubt - the next best thing to an 11/70.
--
Lee K. Gleason N5ZMR
Control-G Consultants
lee.gleason at comcast.net
My most often used Digital Server 5305 (white box equivalent of the as 1200) lost one of its power supplies. It was replaced with a spare and Osmium is running again. I' m thinking of repairing the damaged unit but need schematics for that. Any pointers for them, or a service manual?
Hans
On 2013-09-27 19:08, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 09/27/2013 05:24 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Ok. I think I sorted it out now. That was an ugly bug... :-)
MIM should be stable now, and with an improved TCP/IP, in case anyone
ever notice...
I'm actually hoping to run your RSX IP stack at some point. I just
got another PDP-11/24 recently...Will RSX-11M/Plus run on a machine
without split I/D space?
Yes, M+ will run on an 11/24. It is a supported system. However, my
TCP/IP will not run on that. It requires split I/D-space.
Ahh ok. Well, if I run the 11/24, I obviously won't be running that
stack. :) I may run an 11/44 instead.
Running M+ on an 11/23 or 11/24 (the only systems without I/D space that M+ supports) is perhaps not the most wonderful experience anyway. Since you don't have split I/D-space on those systems, system pool becomes really scarce. And that is not fun.
An 11/44 is so much better.
Johnny
On 09/27/2013 05:24 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Ok. I think I sorted it out now. That was an ugly bug... :-)
MIM should be stable now, and with an improved TCP/IP, in case anyone
ever notice...
I'm actually hoping to run your RSX IP stack at some point. I just
got another PDP-11/24 recently...Will RSX-11M/Plus run on a machine
without split I/D space?
Yes, M+ will run on an 11/24. It is a supported system. However, my
TCP/IP will not run on that. It requires split I/D-space.
Ahh ok. Well, if I run the 11/24, I obviously won't be running that
stack. :) I may run an 11/44 instead.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 09/27/2013 12:30 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Okay Cory what did you do?
I lost my member information in The Great Zpool Failure of 2013.
It is really, really hard to trash a zpool. What happened? (probably
best off-list) Did you tell me about that?
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
