On 2013-09-27 03:11, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I like the screen-oriented one, feels like I'm on a 3270 connected to OS/390 or something..:)
Hum. That is the mailer that *is* installed on MIM. Maybe you haven't set your terminal?
Ah a SET TERM/INQ fixed it. When you get a chance, I'd love an account, never had one on an RSX box before :)
I'll take care of it during the weekend.
Johnny
I like the screen-oriented one, feels like I'm on a 3270 connected to OS/390 or something..:)
Hum. That is the mailer that *is* installed on MIM. Maybe you haven't set your terminal?
Ah a SET TERM/INQ fixed it. When you get a chance, I'd love an account, never had one on an RSX box before :)
sampsa
On 2013-09-27 00:45, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 00:41, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-09-27 00:40, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 00:38, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-09-26 22:46, Sampsa Laine wrote:
When I try accessing the web version of MIM's node database, I get a connection refused error, the URL is: http://madame.update.uu.se/~bqt/nodedb
This literally started a few minutes ago.
Yep. The reason is that I'm rewriting my timer handling in my TCP/IP stack right now, so MIM is not that stable. :-)
Ah shame, I just added a function to my Pyffle conferencing software that uses the webpage to look up HECnet nodes..
Any idea when it'll be stable again? :)
Hopefully within an hour or so.
Actually it seems to work now. Shame it doesn't render that well in Lynx (not a criticism, nothing renders well in Lynx) so might write a bit of Python to pull the nodedb down and query it, display the results in a bit more user-friendly text format.
You know, I could render it differently if you have something like Lynx, if I only know what you'd like to get it as... The output from that page is rather simple right now.
I'm pretty much just letting the liternal output from DTR come through.
Johnny
On 2013-09-27 00:52, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-09-27 00:45, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 00:41, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-09-27 00:40, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 00:38, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-09-26 22:46, Sampsa Laine wrote:
When I try accessing the web version of MIM's node database, I get
a connection refused error, the URL is:
http://madame.update.uu.se/~bqt/nodedb
This literally started a few minutes ago.
Yep. The reason is that I'm rewriting my timer handling in my
TCP/IP stack right now, so MIM is not that stable. :-)
Ah shame, I just added a function to my Pyffle conferencing software
that uses the webpage to look up HECnet nodes..
Any idea when it'll be stable again? :)
Hopefully within an hour or so.
Actually it seems to work now. Shame it doesn't render that well in
Lynx (not a criticism, nothing renders well in Lynx) so might write a
bit of Python to pull the nodedb down and query it, display the
results in a bit more user-friendly text format.
Yeah. Right now I'm trying to figure out why the retransmit timer don't
seem to work as it should. Most of the time it isn't needed, so it
mostly works fine. But I'm trying the odd bad behaviors...
MIM can go down on short notice right now, as I'm mucking in the kernel...
Ok. I think I sorted it out now. That was an ugly bug... :-)
MIM should be stable now, and with an improved TCP/IP, in case anyone ever notice...
Johnny
On 2013-09-27 01:25, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 01:23, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-09-27 01:06, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Yeah. Right now I'm trying to figure out why the retransmit timer don't seem to work as it should. Most of the time it isn't needed, so it mostly works fine. But I'm trying the odd bad behaviors...
MIM can go down on short notice right now, as I'm mucking in the kernel...
BTW what happened to the old Mail-11 client on MIM - I really liked the interface on it..
I actually have two mail clients on MIM, even though only one is normally installed. Which one was it you liked? The very plain and simple command line thing, or the rather screen oriented fancy one?
I like the screen-oriented one, feels like I'm on a 3270 connected to OS/390 or something..:)
Hum. That is the mailer that *is* installed on MIM. Maybe you haven't set your terminal?
Johnny
On 2013-09-27 01:42, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I don't want to bitch but seriously, Gregg is nuts.
Does this guy actually ever contribute anything useful LOL?
Is he even ON Hecnet?
He basically admits he's trolling the list or is out of his mind, I think you might want to have a word or two with him, he's basically in every thread with some insane nonsense. It's like having a schizophrenic at software design meetings.
I had a few words with him, and he promised to stop with the yetis and all that. And as far as I can tell, he stopped that. I think we might cut him at least a little slack.
Feel free to ignore him though. :-)
Johnny
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Begin forwarded message:
From: Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Can't connect to MIM nodedb
Date: 27 September 2013 01:37:51 EET
To: "hecnet at update.uu.se" <hecnet at update.uu.se>
Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Hello!
Just trying to confuse you, and it worked.
And yes I am aware that both you and Dave do wander in the other sides
of the street. (And you too Cory.) JCL is supposed to be peculiar.
There is only one reason for that, and IBM wrote it to confuse us.
OV is or rather was Office Vision, and it was a largely internal
system setup to facilitate sending e-mail and stuff all over the
Internal IBM network. Now they use Notes.
No I don't want to know where that OS/390 came from.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 01:28, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello!
I can arrange that! Well no I can't, but it fits my mood. Sampsa, what
that kludge used for sending e-mail out to the people at IBM(!) was OV
and it somehow kept working well into the availability of Notes.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Huh? I'm totally lost, no idea what you're talking about..:)
sampsa
PS: I do actually have a few "mainframes" that I boot up from time to time on Hercules, I'm starting to like OS/390 especially, not that I understand it (JCL is insane).
Hello!
I was thinking more along the lines of a very large camel.
What we do need to explore is a network that provides six nines of connectivity.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 01:28, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello!
I can arrange that! Well no I can't, but it fits my mood. Sampsa, what
that kludge used for sending e-mail out to the people at IBM(!) was OV
and it somehow kept working well into the availability of Notes.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Huh? I'm totally lost, no idea what you're talking about..:)
sampsa
PS: I do actually have a few "mainframes" that I boot up from time to time
on Hercules, I'm starting to like OS/390 especially, not that I understand
it (JCL is insane).
I prefer VM myself. I got TCP/IP going under VM/ESA.
--
Cory Smelosky
Sent from a Sun via a VT320 over LAT!
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Just trying to confuse you, and it worked.
And yes I am aware that both you and Dave do wander in the other sides
of the street. (And you too Cory.) JCL is supposed to be peculiar.
There is only one reason for that, and IBM wrote it to confuse us.
IBM likes to confuse people with their special terms. Now we just need to get SNANet tied in to HECnet...I've yet to figure out LCS in hercules though. :(
OV is or rather was Office Vision, and it was a largely internal
system setup to facilitate sending e-mail and stuff all over the
Internal IBM network. Now they use Notes.
No I don't want to know where that OS/390 came from.
It was delivered by a giant rabbit after the plane crashed in to a troubled kid's bedroom.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 01:28, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello!
I can arrange that! Well no I can't, but it fits my mood. Sampsa, what
that kludge used for sending e-mail out to the people at IBM(!) was OV
and it somehow kept working well into the availability of Notes.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Huh? I'm totally lost, no idea what you're talking about..:)
sampsa
PS: I do actually have a few "mainframes" that I boot up from time to time on Hercules, I'm starting to like OS/390 especially, not that I understand it (JCL is insane).
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 01:28, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello!
I can arrange that! Well no I can't, but it fits my mood. Sampsa, what
that kludge used for sending e-mail out to the people at IBM(!) was OV
and it somehow kept working well into the availability of Notes.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Huh? I'm totally lost, no idea what you're talking about..:)
sampsa
PS: I do actually have a few "mainframes" that I boot up from time to time on Hercules, I'm starting to like OS/390 especially, not that I understand it (JCL is insane).
I prefer VM myself. I got TCP/IP going under VM/ESA.
--
Cory Smelosky
Sent from a Sun via a VT320 over LAT!
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
Hello!
Just trying to confuse you, and it worked.
And yes I am aware that both you and Dave do wander in the other sides
of the street. (And you too Cory.) JCL is supposed to be peculiar.
There is only one reason for that, and IBM wrote it to confuse us.
OV is or rather was Office Vision, and it was a largely internal
system setup to facilitate sending e-mail and stuff all over the
Internal IBM network. Now they use Notes.
No I don't want to know where that OS/390 came from.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 01:28, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello!
I can arrange that! Well no I can't, but it fits my mood. Sampsa, what
that kludge used for sending e-mail out to the people at IBM(!) was OV
and it somehow kept working well into the availability of Notes.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Huh? I'm totally lost, no idea what you're talking about..:)
sampsa
PS: I do actually have a few "mainframes" that I boot up from time to time on Hercules, I'm starting to like OS/390 especially, not that I understand it (JCL is insane).
