On 10/02/2013 05:50 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Good to hear that! Something I've been considering for a while is that
if they were to join, should we invite their whole userbase to the
HECnet mailing list or possibly just the EISNER adminds?
Uh? God no! I think anyone who are interested should subscribe themself
anyway, and let the rest be.
Johnny does NOT like email traffic. ;)
I personally think the admins would make a better choice, there are
lists like DECTEK for general DEChead stuff.
I think that should be entirely up to them.
You could perhaps create a notes group for HECnet on EISNER?
That's a good idea.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 2013-10-02 23:08, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Depends...
Issue a "SHOW DEVICE" at the dead sargent and post the output.
Well...this could explain a bit: I was burning at 24x and throwing those
discs at a 12x drive.
Eh... And... The speed you write with have no relation to the data eventually ending up on the CD, nor the speed you read them off. The speed relates to the time it will take to read/write the disk...
Johnny
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Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, G. wrote:
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:29:33 -0400, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I'm not even seeing a jumper for it on the drive. Drive is a crippled
Apple CR-507-C (Hey! It's the only working SCSI CD-ROM drive I have!)
Why don't you install over the network? It would be somewhat time consuming,
but trying to find a working CD-ROM drive isn't fast either.
That's what I'm thinking. ;)
Set up a Simh instance as a cluster boot server and the VAXstation as a
satellite without local paging or swapping, boot it, initialize its internal
disk, restore the B saveset onto it, copy the other savesets to the root
directory, shutdown, reboot from the local disk and proceed from there. :)
Hmmmm.
Otherwise, if you have a spare SCSI disk, you could dump the installation
image onto it (e.g. with dd) and use it as if it were a CD-ROM.
I hae a spare SCSI disk...but no way to write the image to scsi disk other than VMS. The current VMS install albeit touchy would work for that.
Otherwise, if you have an Infoserver (either hardware or software) use it. :)
HTH,
G.
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Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On 2013-10-02 21:31, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Brian, how do you think this is going? Are we going to get them to hook =
up?
I do believe so. There are some other things concerning Eisner that need
to be addressed before connection to HECnet (not involving the connection)
but I'm not at liberty to discuss them publicly. It's nothing ominous, so
just sit tight.
Good to hear that! Something I've been considering for a while is that if they were to join, should we invite their whole userbase to the HECnet mailing list or possibly just the EISNER adminds?
Uh? God no! I think anyone who are interested should subscribe themself anyway, and let the rest be.
I personally think the admins would make a better choice, there are lists like DECTEK for general DEChead stuff.
I think that should be entirely up to them.
You could perhaps create a notes group for HECnet on EISNER?
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:29:33 -0400, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I'm not even seeing a jumper for it on the drive. Drive is a crippled
Apple CR-507-C (Hey! It's the only working SCSI CD-ROM drive I have!)
Why don't you install over the network? It would be somewhat time consuming,
but trying to find a working CD-ROM drive isn't fast either.
Set up a Simh instance as a cluster boot server and the VAXstation as a
satellite without local paging or swapping, boot it, initialize its internal
disk, restore the B saveset onto it, copy the other savesets to the root
directory, shutdown, reboot from the local disk and proceed from there. :)
Otherwise, if you have a spare SCSI disk, you could dump the installation
image onto it (e.g. with dd) and use it as if it were a CD-ROM.
Otherwise, if you have an Infoserver (either hardware or software) use it. :)
HTH,
G.
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Depends...
Issue a "SHOW DEVICE" at the dead sargent and post the output.
Well...this could explain a bit: I was burning at 24x and throwing those
discs at a 12x drive.
:rolleyes:
That generally has no correlation whatsoever. What's important is whether
or not the CD-rom can read the recordable media you're using. Some record-
able media works better than other in older CD-rom drives.
Hey, I haven't touched CD-ROM stuff in awhile! ;)
BTW, the drive you have installed, is it jumpered for 512 byte blocks???
I'm not even seeing a jumper for it on the drive. Drive is a crippled Apple CR-507-C (Hey! It's the only working SCSI CD-ROM drive I have!)
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On 10/02/2013 05:25 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Ick.
I mean, not vi, I use it from time to time...no sense in starting up
all of emacs when I need to edit /etc/resolv.conf, for example...but
still. If I don't get ACCESS to a system, I won't work on it, period.
I know just enough vi to accomplish basic tasks and move around.
Sorta like my Arabic actually.
Well that's the important part.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Ick.
I mean, not vi, I use it from time to time...no sense in starting up
all of emacs when I need to edit /etc/resolv.conf, for example...but
still. If I don't get ACCESS to a system, I won't work on it, period.
I know just enough vi to accomplish basic tasks and move around.
Sorta like my Arabic actually.
sampsa
On 2 Oct 2013, at 23:17, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
It's available packaged pretty much everywhere, but building it from
source borders on the trivial. It builds on most every reasonable
platform out there, and some that aren't so reasonable. This has been
the case for decades.
On that note, for any fellow OS X users here, I highly recommend Aquamacs -
it's the COCOAized (== OS X UI) version of Emacs, comes with pretty much
everything a normal emacs build comes with (including EDT emulation as
I discovered 10 minutes ago).
It's free of course: http://aquamacs.org
(I'm not involved in the project or anything, just REALLY like editor)
On 10/02/2013 05:17 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Emacs builds on most everything, and is packaged for most (all?) Linux
distributions.
Quite often I'm on a client server which won't let me install anything
outside the formal spec, never mind compile it. Usually the servers
don't even HAVE a C compiler installed.
So then it's traumatizing trip back to vi-land..
Ick.
I mean, not vi, I use it from time to time...no sense in starting up
all of emacs when I need to edit /etc/resolv.conf, for example...but
still. If I don't get ACCESS to a system, I won't work on it, period.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
