I understand BQT's point about keeping the signal/noise ratio good on the main technical HECnet list, but sometimes random conversations start etc. For these cases I created hecnetrandom at googlegroups.com, open to anyone (if spam becomes an issue I'll tighten the security a tad)
This is NOT a replacement for this awesome mailing list that I have enjoyed and learnt many thing from over nearly a decade. I just feel that there is a community spirit in HECnet that would probably be best expressed on another mailing list.
The address for the group is hecnetrandom at googlegroups.com , just send any mail and you will be subscribed to it.
I think this will lower the random noise in the main HECnet list yet could be amusing for the people who enjoy the social aspect of retrocomputing / networking..
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 10/02/2013 07:14 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Good to hear that! Something I've been considering for a while is that
if they were to join, should we invite their whole userbase to the
HECnet mailing list or possibly just the EISNER adminds?
Uh? God no! I think anyone who are interested should subscribe themself
anyway, and let the rest be.
Johnny does NOT like email traffic. ;)
I like to keep HECnet somewhat low volume, on topic, technical, yadda
yadda. I don't want it to be a general forum for people to vent their
hot air.
If the list grows larger, I will have to start policing more.
Can't blame you there. It's just human nature, though, for a group
with such "vertical" common interests and yet varied backgrounds to
become very social and friendly. It would've been great if those types
of threads had migrated to the dectec list, but that didn't happen...not
sure why.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 2013-10-02 23:58, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 2 Oct 2013, at 23:50, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
Good to hear that! Something I've been considering for a while is that if they were to join, should we invite their whole userbase to the HECnet mailing list or possibly just the EISNER adminds?
Uh? God no! I think anyone who are interested should subscribe themself anyway, and let the rest be.
I wasn't suggesting that at all, in fact the next paragraph states the opposite quite clearly.
Yes, but even the suggestion... :-)
I personally think the admins would make a better choice, there are lists like DECTEK for general DEChead stuff.
I think that should be entirely up to them.
You could perhaps create a notes group for HECnet on EISNER?
As for admins being on the mailing list, this could be useful but of course mandatory.
Same as for being on HECnet in general. I'm not sure all people who have nodes on HECnet are even on the list. And lots of people are on the list without having any nodes.
Brian, if we get this going, how do I create a new NOTES group?
(I'm a total NOTES n00b)
Should be easy. I've not properly used NOTES in about 25 years, but running it on a TTY, there should be help enough. And I would expect the web interface to have some easy click and shoot thingys. Just look around.
Johnny
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Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 2013-10-02 23:57, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/02/2013 05:50 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Good to hear that! Something I've been considering for a while is that
if they were to join, should we invite their whole userbase to the
HECnet mailing list or possibly just the EISNER adminds?
Uh? God no! I think anyone who are interested should subscribe themself
anyway, and let the rest be.
Johnny does NOT like email traffic. ;)
I like to keep HECnet somewhat low volume, on topic, technical, yadda yadda. I don't want it to be a general forum for people to vent their hot air.
If the list grows larger, I will have to start policing more.
I personally think the admins would make a better choice, there are
lists like DECTEK for general DEChead stuff.
I think that should be entirely up to them.
You could perhaps create a notes group for HECnet on EISNER?
That's a good idea.
Yes, I think it is... :-)
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/02/2013 06:54 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yet I have a drive that shows up as /7/ different 1.05G disks. With a
different device number assigned to each. Along with my 2G drive
showing up as 600M
That can happen if the drive is set to the same SCSI ID as the
initiator (controller).
Changed the initiator ID to 7. Booting now. From here I will get
TCP/IP running if I can, and then ftp the VMS .IMG over and write it to
the Quantum disk (hopefully). From there I will boot from the quantum
disk and do an isntall on to the 4G disk turning the Quantum drive in to
user directories.
Sounds good. Good luck.
Thanks!
Will I want to write the image directly to the Quantum disk, or mount
the image and copy the files off?
Write it directly.
-Dave
Backup can do that right? I don't have to right disk images to disk in VMS too often. ;)
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On 10/02/2013 06:55 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
There is MicroEMACS, which is really easy to port around (I have it
running on RSX).
I used MicroEMACS when I did a lot of DOS development in the 1980s. I
also ran it for awhile (until I got GNU Emacs built) on a 3B1.
I remember running MicroEMACS on my Amiga 500! Awesome editor :)
It really is. Now THAT will build on most anything. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 10/02/2013 06:54 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yet I have a drive that shows up as /7/ different 1.05G disks. With a
different device number assigned to each. Along with my 2G drive
showing up as 600M
That can happen if the drive is set to the same SCSI ID as the
initiator (controller).
Changed the initiator ID to 7. Booting now. From here I will get
TCP/IP running if I can, and then ftp the VMS .IMG over and write it to
the Quantum disk (hopefully). From there I will boot from the quantum
disk and do an isntall on to the 4G disk turning the Quantum drive in to
user directories.
Sounds good. Good luck.
Thanks!
Will I want to write the image directly to the Quantum disk, or mount
the image and copy the files off?
Write it directly.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 3 Oct 2013, at 00:44, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/02/2013 06:09 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
There is MicroEMACS, which is really easy to port around (I have it
running on RSX).
I used MicroEMACS when I did a lot of DOS development in the 1980s. I
also ran it for awhile (until I got GNU Emacs built) on a 3B1.
I remember running MicroEMACS on my Amiga 500! Awesome editor :)
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/02/2013 06:50 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yet I have a drive that shows up as /7/ different 1.05G disks. With a
different device number assigned to each. Along with my 2G drive
showing up as 600M
That can happen if the drive is set to the same SCSI ID as the
initiator (controller).
Changed the initiator ID to 7. Booting now. From here I will get
TCP/IP running if I can, and then ftp the VMS .IMG over and write it to
the Quantum disk (hopefully). From there I will boot from the quantum
disk and do an isntall on to the 4G disk turning the Quantum drive in to
user directories.
Sounds good. Good luck.
-Dave
Thanks!
Will I want to write the image directly to the Quantum disk, or mount the image and copy the files off?
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On 10/02/2013 06:50 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Yet I have a drive that shows up as /7/ different 1.05G disks. With a
different device number assigned to each. Along with my 2G drive
showing up as 600M
That can happen if the drive is set to the same SCSI ID as the
initiator (controller).
Changed the initiator ID to 7. Booting now. From here I will get
TCP/IP running if I can, and then ftp the VMS .IMG over and write it to
the Quantum disk (hopefully). From there I will boot from the quantum
disk and do an isntall on to the 4G disk turning the Quantum drive in to
user directories.
Sounds good. Good luck.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
