On 10/02/2013 05:25 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Ick.
I mean, not vi, I use it from time to time...no sense in starting up
all of emacs when I need to edit /etc/resolv.conf, for example...but
still. If I don't get ACCESS to a system, I won't work on it, period.
I know just enough vi to accomplish basic tasks and move around.
Sorta like my Arabic actually.
Well that's the important part.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Ick.
I mean, not vi, I use it from time to time...no sense in starting up
all of emacs when I need to edit /etc/resolv.conf, for example...but
still. If I don't get ACCESS to a system, I won't work on it, period.
I know just enough vi to accomplish basic tasks and move around.
Sorta like my Arabic actually.
sampsa
On 2 Oct 2013, at 23:17, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
It's available packaged pretty much everywhere, but building it from
source borders on the trivial. It builds on most every reasonable
platform out there, and some that aren't so reasonable. This has been
the case for decades.
On that note, for any fellow OS X users here, I highly recommend Aquamacs -
it's the COCOAized (== OS X UI) version of Emacs, comes with pretty much
everything a normal emacs build comes with (including EDT emulation as
I discovered 10 minutes ago).
It's free of course: http://aquamacs.org
(I'm not involved in the project or anything, just REALLY like editor)
On 10/02/2013 05:17 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Emacs builds on most everything, and is packaged for most (all?) Linux
distributions.
Quite often I'm on a client server which won't let me install anything
outside the formal spec, never mind compile it. Usually the servers
don't even HAVE a C compiler installed.
So then it's traumatizing trip back to vi-land..
Ick.
I mean, not vi, I use it from time to time...no sense in starting up
all of emacs when I need to edit /etc/resolv.conf, for example...but
still. If I don't get ACCESS to a system, I won't work on it, period.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Depends...
Issue a "SHOW DEVICE" at the dead sargent and post the output.
Well...this could explain a bit: I was burning at 24x and throwing those
discs at a 12x drive.
:rolleyes:
That generally has no correlation whatsoever. What's important is whether
or not the CD-rom can read the recordable media you're using. Some record-
able media works better than other in older CD-rom drives.
BTW, the drive you have installed, is it jumpered for 512 byte blocks???
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Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
On 10/02/2013 05:10 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
It is available on Slackware. I sometimes use it when circumstances
demand I use an editor with strangeness written into it. It is
available for the Debian Port on the Pi.
It's available packaged pretty much everywhere, but building it from
source borders on the trivial. It builds on most every reasonable
platform out there, and some that aren't so reasonable. This has been
the case for decades.
As for a mode which enables the same editing functions as the editors
for the PDP-11 and probably the PDP-10 systems.... Interesting.
Enabling it sounds interesting. I shall try that one next.
Well...emacs *originated* on the PDP-10 systems..
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 2 Oct 2013, at 22:51, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/02/2013 03:18 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Emacs has too high of a learning curve for me...with vi I prefer
vim.
Emacs has an OBSCENE learning curve. But if you give it the time
that it takes, it will reward you for the rest of your life.
I full agree with that sentiment, I can use Emacs to a basic degree
(I don't progam in elisp or anything) and it is a very effective
editor.
Shame it doesn't come as standard on all *nix boxes, I have to revert
to vi (UNIX) or nano/pico (most Linux distros)
Emacs builds on most everything, and is packaged for most (all?) Linux
distributions.
Quite often I'm on a client server which won't let me install anything
outside the formal spec, never mind compile it. Usually the servers
don't even HAVE a C compiler installed.
So then it's traumatizing trip back to vi-land..
Hello!
It is available on Slackware. I sometimes use it when circumstances
demand I use an editor with strangeness written into it. It is
available for the Debian Port on the Pi.
As for a mode which enables the same editing functions as the editors
for the PDP-11 and probably the PDP-10 systems.... Interesting.
Enabling it sounds interesting. I shall try that one next.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/02/2013 03:18 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Emacs has too high of a learning curve for me...with vi I prefer
vim.
Emacs has an OBSCENE learning curve. But if you give it the time
that it takes, it will reward you for the rest of your life.
I full agree with that sentiment, I can use Emacs to a basic degree
(I don't progam in elisp or anything) and it is a very effective
editor.
Shame it doesn't come as standard on all *nix boxes, I have to revert
to vi (UNIX) or nano/pico (most Linux distros)
Emacs builds on most everything, and is packaged for most (all?) Linux
distributions.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Depends...
Issue a "SHOW DEVICE" at the dead sargent and post the output.
Well...this could explain a bit: I was burning at 24x and throwing those discs at a 12x drive.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On 10/02/2013 04:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I will, as the cool kids say, "hook you up". Any progress on
arranging for a van to show up here mid-month?
No, sorry. Not yet.
Ok. Just keep me posted.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
