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by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2013-12-24 05:14, Dave McGuire wrote: On 12/23/2013 10:46 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: Ahh, got it. I have a bru64k.tap file that I think came from the same place. If you have a brusys.tap file, would you please send me a copy? I can't seem to find that anywhere. Did you try booting the BRU64K tape? Sounds like that should be a BRUSYS system as well. Not sure what the correct name is. I know it by BRUSYS, but there might be some slight difference between the 11M and M+ standalone BRU, or it might just be different versions of the same. BRU64K also rings some bell, so I think I've seem that name as well. I booted it. It seems BRU64K does not support MU: devices. The "regular" BRUSYS does. I don't know what other differences there may be. Hmm. I'd say that this would more be an issue of age. The TMSCP support only came in 4.something, if I remember right. I wish I still had that tape, but sadly it was lost many years ago. Distribution tape for 4.1? I thought you had 4.3 anyway, so what would you use 4.1 for? I wouldn't...but it was a pristine, original DEC RSX-11M distribution tape, and those don't exactly grow on trees. Oh. Ok. Thank you Johnny. I'm sure I will have other questions as I become reacquainted with RSX. No problems. Feel free to ask anything. Thank you! First question: I'd like to try to get DECnet running on this system, if possible, to get it on HECnet. I've never run DECnet under RSX before. I could put a DEUNA in the machine, but I am running short of slots. I have a DELUA, but I don't recall sysgen asking about DELUAs. Are they compatible at the driver level? Meaning, if I re-do my sysgen to include a DEUNA driver, will that work with a DELUA? DEUNA and DELUA are the same from a program point of view. They have different microcode, but that is detected at runtime, and the right microcode is loaded. The rest work the same. They use the same drivers, both in DECnet and in plain RSX. (Yes, there is an ethernet driver for Unibus, that you can use if you have the controller, but do not want DECnet.) Johnny

12 years, 1 month

Re: [DECtec] SAMPSACOM Wishes Fellow DECHEADS a Merry Xmas! Virtual machine giveaway..

by johnhreinhardt＠yahoo.com

Pretty cool. What is the server based on, if I may ask? Is it a particular commercial system or "home built"? John H. Reinhardt On 12/24/2013 3:41 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote: Guys, I'm about to migrate all my stuff into a data centre with a symmetric 1 Gbps pipe and the server I'm hosting on is pretty chunky, 16 Xeons at 3 GHz and 64 GB of RAM. Anyway, I'm happy to slice of off five or six VMs for people who need them with the following features: - Real static public IP address, with up to 12 port mappings (tcp/udp) from the outside - 100 GB disk - 1 Xeon CPU - 1.5 GB RAM - Full root access to your VM - SSH (pubkey auth only) account on the VM host - VNC access to the console via SSH So if you have a project in mind that could use something like this, feel free to fire me a personal email (to sampsa at mac.com) and I'll probably roll out a VM for you (the migration will only happen mid-late Jan, but I can arrange slower speed access and control for those who want to get started early). sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +20 11 2150 2266

12 years, 1 month

SAMPSACOM Wishes Fellow DECHEADS a Merry Xmas! Virtual machine giveaway..

by sampsa＠mac.com

Guys, I'm about to migrate all my stuff into a data centre with a symmetric 1 Gbps pipe and the server I'm hosting on is pretty chunky, 16 Xeons at 3 GHz and 64 GB of RAM. Anyway, I'm happy to slice of off five or six VMs for people who need them with the following features: - Real static public IP address, with up to 12 port mappings (tcp/udp) from the outside - 100 GB disk - 1 Xeon CPU - 1.5 GB RAM - Full root access to your VM - SSH (pubkey auth only) account on the VM host - VNC access to the console via SSH So if you have a project in mind that could use something like this, feel free to fire me a personal email (to sampsa at mac.com) and I'll probably roll out a VM for you (the migration will only happen mid-late Jan, but I can arrange slower speed access and control for those who want to get started early). sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +20 11 2150 2266

12 years, 1 month

two dumb RSX questions

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 12/23/2013 10:46 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: Ahh, got it. I have a bru64k.tap file that I think came from the same place. If you have a brusys.tap file, would you please send me a copy? I can't seem to find that anywhere. Did you try booting the BRU64K tape? Sounds like that should be a BRUSYS system as well. Not sure what the correct name is. I know it by BRUSYS, but there might be some slight difference between the 11M and M+ standalone BRU, or it might just be different versions of the same. BRU64K also rings some bell, so I think I've seem that name as well. I booted it. It seems BRU64K does not support MU: devices. The "regular" BRUSYS does. I don't know what other differences there may be. Ok. I was mainly concerned about the stuff fitting...I'm assuming 4.2/4.3 are larger than 4.1. 4.1 was the last version I ran. I've found the relevant sections of the documentation and am reading it now. Excellent. Progress! I've restored the DL installation set under simh, moved the RL02 disk images over to a (real) VAX, written them to RL02 packs, and am running a sysgen on a (real) PDP-11/24. It's midway through the assembly of the executive. I took a crappy phone pic: http://www.neurotica.com/misc/pdp1124-rsx-sysgen-20131223.jpg (yes, that bottom RL02 really is dirty...I'll clean it soon) I wish I still had that tape, but sadly it was lost many years ago. Distribution tape for 4.1? I thought you had 4.3 anyway, so what would you use 4.1 for? I wouldn't...but it was a pristine, original DEC RSX-11M distribution tape, and those don't exactly grow on trees. Thank you Johnny. I'm sure I will have other questions as I become reacquainted with RSX. No problems. Feel free to ask anything. Thank you! First question: I'd like to try to get DECnet running on this system, if possible, to get it on HECnet. I've never run DECnet under RSX before. I could put a DEUNA in the machine, but I am running short of slots. I have a DELUA, but I don't recall sysgen asking about DELUAs. Are they compatible at the driver level? Meaning, if I re-do my sysgen to include a DEUNA driver, will that work with a DELUA? -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 1 month

two dumb RSX questions

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2013-12-23 21:13, Dave McGuire wrote: On 12/23/2013 06:35 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: 1) Has anyone been able to install the RSX-11M v4.3 distribution that's floating around? The tape doesn't seem to be bootable. The normal distribution was on two tapes. One small tape was bootable, and contains BRUSYS, while the larger tape is the actual distribution, in the form of a BRU tape, which is not bootable. If you don't have the BRUSYS tape, pretty much any version of BRUSYS should be fine to use. As well as running BRU on an already installed system, to just restore the first saveset from the tape to a fresh disk, and then boot that. Ahh, got it. I have a bru64k.tap file that I think came from the same place. If you have a brusys.tap file, would you please send me a copy? I can't seem to find that anywhere. Did you try booting the BRU64K tape? Sounds like that should be a BRUSYS system as well. Not sure what the correct name is. I know it by BRUSYS, but there might be some slight difference between the 11M and M+ standalone BRU, or it might just be different versions of the same. BRU64K also rings some bell, so I think I've seem that name as well. 2) Is it possible to install RSX-11M v4.2 or v4.3 onto a dual-RL02 system? The initial BRU restoration bombs on running out of disk space, unsurprisingly. I'd like to get this going for a real (non-emulated) system which has two RL02 drives. Yes. I've done this. It might be that you need some special dealings. It should be in the system installation manual. Ok. I was mainly concerned about the stuff fitting...I'm assuming 4.2/4.3 are larger than 4.1. 4.1 was the last version I ran. I've found the relevant sections of the documentation and am reading it now. Excellent. (I know v4.1 will run on two RL02s, because I ran it decades ago...but I no longer have that distribution tape) Nothing have changed on that front, as far as I can remember. Ok. Actually it was late when I typed that, and I misremembered...I actually ran 4.1 on two RL01s, not two RL02s. I had a 4.1 distribution tape, and I took it to a friend's place where he had a system with a magtape drive and an RL01 drive. The distribution was the one that restored onto a set of RL01 packs, five packs I think, and then you run the sysgen from those, and when you're done, one of those packs is your new system disk. Yeah. I've run 11M from two RL02 drives. I think it turned into a five packs setup at system generation, but apart from the swapping of packs from time to time, it worked fine. I wish I still had that tape, but sadly it was lost many years ago. Distribution tape for 4.1? I thought you had 4.3 anyway, so what would you use 4.1 for? Thank you Johnny. I'm sure I will have other questions as I become reacquainted with RSX. No problems. Feel free to ask anything. Oh, and if someone wonder about MIM, I have identified some weird bug in the TCP code that I' investigating, so right now MIM might be a bit unstable, and I've turned off most TCP services. Johnny

12 years, 1 month

two dumb RSX questions

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 12/23/2013 03:16 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013, Dave McGuire wrote: Which sysem are you installing this on? PDP-11/24 and/or PDP-11/34 -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 1 month

two dumb RSX questions

by b4＠gewt.net

On Mon, 23 Dec 2013, Dave McGuire wrote: Which sysem are you installing this on? -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

12 years, 1 month

two dumb RSX questions

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 12/23/2013 06:35 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: 1) Has anyone been able to install the RSX-11M v4.3 distribution that's floating around? The tape doesn't seem to be bootable. The normal distribution was on two tapes. One small tape was bootable, and contains BRUSYS, while the larger tape is the actual distribution, in the form of a BRU tape, which is not bootable. If you don't have the BRUSYS tape, pretty much any version of BRUSYS should be fine to use. As well as running BRU on an already installed system, to just restore the first saveset from the tape to a fresh disk, and then boot that. Ahh, got it. I have a bru64k.tap file that I think came from the same place. If you have a brusys.tap file, would you please send me a copy? I can't seem to find that anywhere. 2) Is it possible to install RSX-11M v4.2 or v4.3 onto a dual-RL02 system? The initial BRU restoration bombs on running out of disk space, unsurprisingly. I'd like to get this going for a real (non-emulated) system which has two RL02 drives. Yes. I've done this. It might be that you need some special dealings. It should be in the system installation manual. Ok. I was mainly concerned about the stuff fitting...I'm assuming 4.2/4.3 are larger than 4.1. 4.1 was the last version I ran. I've found the relevant sections of the documentation and am reading it now. (I know v4.1 will run on two RL02s, because I ran it decades ago...but I no longer have that distribution tape) Nothing have changed on that front, as far as I can remember. Ok. Actually it was late when I typed that, and I misremembered...I actually ran 4.1 on two RL01s, not two RL02s. I had a 4.1 distribution tape, and I took it to a friend's place where he had a system with a magtape drive and an RL01 drive. The distribution was the one that restored onto a set of RL01 packs, five packs I think, and then you run the sysgen from those, and when you're done, one of those packs is your new system disk. I wish I still had that tape, but sadly it was lost many years ago. Thank you Johnny. I'm sure I will have other questions as I become reacquainted with RSX. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

12 years, 1 month

Playing around with ACCOUNT command

by sampsa＠mac.com

Got it after deciphering the helpfile a bit :) ACCOUNT /SUMMARY/REPORT=(BUFFERED_IO,DIRECT_IO,ELAPSED,EXECUTION,PROCESSOR,QIOS) sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +44 7961 149465 On 22 Dec 2013, at 19:13, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Back years ago I managed to get the ACCOUNT command to produce me a nice list of CPU time used, images executed and disk i/o performed per account, but can not for the life of me remember the syntax. Any of you gurus out there able to help? sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +44 7961 149465

12 years, 1 month

Playing around with ACCOUNT command

by sampsa＠mac.com

Back years ago I managed to get the ACCOUNT command to produce me a nice list of CPU time used, images executed and disk i/o performed per account, but can not for the life of me remember the syntax. Any of you gurus out there able to help? sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +44 7961 149465

12 years, 1 month

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