On 2013-12-23 21:13, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 12/23/2013 06:35 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
1) Has anyone been able to install the RSX-11M v4.3 distribution
that's floating around? The tape doesn't seem to be bootable.
The normal distribution was on two tapes. One small tape was bootable,
and contains BRUSYS, while the larger tape is the actual distribution,
in the form of a BRU tape, which is not bootable.
If you don't have the BRUSYS tape, pretty much any version of BRUSYS
should be fine to use. As well as running BRU on an already installed
system, to just restore the first saveset from the tape to a fresh disk,
and then boot that.
Ahh, got it. I have a bru64k.tap file that I think came from the same
place. If you have a brusys.tap file, would you please send me a copy?
I can't seem to find that anywhere.
Did you try booting the BRU64K tape? Sounds like that should be a BRUSYS system as well.
Not sure what the correct name is. I know it by BRUSYS, but there might be some slight difference between the 11M and M+ standalone BRU, or it might just be different versions of the same.
BRU64K also rings some bell, so I think I've seem that name as well.
2) Is it possible to install RSX-11M v4.2 or v4.3 onto a dual-RL02
system? The initial BRU restoration bombs on running out of disk space,
unsurprisingly. I'd like to get this going for a real (non-emulated)
system which has two RL02 drives.
Yes. I've done this. It might be that you need some special dealings. It
should be in the system installation manual.
Ok. I was mainly concerned about the stuff fitting...I'm assuming
4.2/4.3 are larger than 4.1. 4.1 was the last version I ran.
I've found the relevant sections of the documentation and am reading
it now.
Excellent.
(I know v4.1 will run on two RL02s, because I ran it decades ago...but
I no longer have that distribution tape)
Nothing have changed on that front, as far as I can remember.
Ok. Actually it was late when I typed that, and I misremembered...I
actually ran 4.1 on two RL01s, not two RL02s. I had a 4.1 distribution
tape, and I took it to a friend's place where he had a system with a
magtape drive and an RL01 drive. The distribution was the one that
restored onto a set of RL01 packs, five packs I think, and then you run
the sysgen from those, and when you're done, one of those packs is your
new system disk.
Yeah. I've run 11M from two RL02 drives. I think it turned into a five packs setup at system generation, but apart from the swapping of packs from time to time, it worked fine.
I wish I still had that tape, but sadly it was lost many years ago.
Distribution tape for 4.1? I thought you had 4.3 anyway, so what would you use 4.1 for?
Thank you Johnny. I'm sure I will have other questions as I become
reacquainted with RSX.
No problems. Feel free to ask anything.
Oh, and if someone wonder about MIM, I have identified some weird bug in the TCP code that I' investigating, so right now MIM might be a bit unstable, and I've turned off most TCP services.
Johnny
On 12/23/2013 03:16 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
Which sysem are you installing this on?
PDP-11/24 and/or PDP-11/34
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
Which sysem are you installing this on?
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On 12/23/2013 06:35 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
1) Has anyone been able to install the RSX-11M v4.3 distribution
that's floating around? The tape doesn't seem to be bootable.
The normal distribution was on two tapes. One small tape was bootable,
and contains BRUSYS, while the larger tape is the actual distribution,
in the form of a BRU tape, which is not bootable.
If you don't have the BRUSYS tape, pretty much any version of BRUSYS
should be fine to use. As well as running BRU on an already installed
system, to just restore the first saveset from the tape to a fresh disk,
and then boot that.
Ahh, got it. I have a bru64k.tap file that I think came from the same
place. If you have a brusys.tap file, would you please send me a copy?
I can't seem to find that anywhere.
2) Is it possible to install RSX-11M v4.2 or v4.3 onto a dual-RL02
system? The initial BRU restoration bombs on running out of disk space,
unsurprisingly. I'd like to get this going for a real (non-emulated)
system which has two RL02 drives.
Yes. I've done this. It might be that you need some special dealings. It
should be in the system installation manual.
Ok. I was mainly concerned about the stuff fitting...I'm assuming
4.2/4.3 are larger than 4.1. 4.1 was the last version I ran.
I've found the relevant sections of the documentation and am reading
it now.
(I know v4.1 will run on two RL02s, because I ran it decades ago...but
I no longer have that distribution tape)
Nothing have changed on that front, as far as I can remember.
Ok. Actually it was late when I typed that, and I misremembered...I
actually ran 4.1 on two RL01s, not two RL02s. I had a 4.1 distribution
tape, and I took it to a friend's place where he had a system with a
magtape drive and an RL01 drive. The distribution was the one that
restored onto a set of RL01 packs, five packs I think, and then you run
the sysgen from those, and when you're done, one of those packs is your
new system disk.
I wish I still had that tape, but sadly it was lost many years ago.
Thank you Johnny. I'm sure I will have other questions as I become
reacquainted with RSX.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Got it after deciphering the helpfile a bit :)
ACCOUNT /SUMMARY/REPORT=(BUFFERED_IO,DIRECT_IO,ELAPSED,EXECUTION,PROCESSOR,QIOS)
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +44 7961 149465
On 22 Dec 2013, at 19:13, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Back years ago I managed to get the ACCOUNT command to produce me a nice list of CPU time used, images executed and disk i/o performed per account, but can not for the life of me remember the syntax.
Any of you gurus out there able to help?
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +44 7961 149465
Back years ago I managed to get the ACCOUNT command to produce me a nice list of CPU time used, images executed and disk i/o performed per account, but can not for the life of me remember the syntax.
Any of you gurus out there able to help?
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +44 7961 149465
On 12/21/2013 09:50 PM, Joe Ferraro wrote:
JOSHUA is a TOPS20 box... for which I don't think a port of tetris exists :)
Well, get to work! :)
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hello!
Makes sense. He does play an excellent game of Chess or several other games.
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"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
JOSHUA is a TOPS20 box... for which I don't think a port of tetris exists :)
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello!
Interesting. No machines playing this game of yours Sampsa named JOSHUA?
And I arranged the lag personally. I felt that we needed some
excitement into this activity.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Yeah, because I'd hacked the source code to make they in a more sane
arrangement.
And it didn't compile on VAX after I seem to recall..
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +44 7961 149465
On 21 Dec 2013, at 00:32, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
We were using FALKEN but the hardware died a sudden death a while
back... WOPR is a game machine, but vax... if i recall, you wanted to keep
it on AXP!?!
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
UK, London specifically.
Last year we came across the same issue, I believe WOPR (?) was setup
to run a US version of the software..
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +44 7961 149465
On 20 Dec 2013, at 21:19, Joshua Benedetto <dasbooterror at gmail.com>
wrote:
My buddy who was playing under 'Budster' was going well, but the lag
was simply too much to deal with from the US. Where is CHIMPY at these days?
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
ELEVEN DAYS LEFT UNTIL THE DEADLINE!
The CHIMPY:: 2013 Retro VT100 Challenge closes at 23:59 GMT on
31-DEC-2013.
At the moment, the leaders are (only the top two players are
awarded):
1. Mark Holmes with a score of 9,816
2. Mark Wickens with a score of 7,640
Unfortunately the mystery player vola1 disappeared with his score of
over 11,000 - make sure you screen shot your result when entering you name
into the leaderboard, and send it to me.
Come on guys, let's get over 10K this year as well, SET HOST to
CHIMPY and log in as TETRIS...
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +44 7961 149465
JOSHUA is a TOPS20 box... for which I don't think a port of tetris exists :)
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello!
Interesting. No machines playing this game of yours Sampsa named JOSHUA?
And I arranged the lag personally. I felt that we needed some
excitement into this activity.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
> Yeah, because I'd hacked the source code to make they in a more sane arrangement.
>
> And it didn't compile on VAX after I seem to recall..
>
> sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
> mobile +44 7961 149465
>
> On 21 Dec 2013, at 00:32, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We were using FALKEN but the hardware died a sudden death a while back... WOPR is a game machine, but vax... if i recall, you wanted to keep it on AXP!?!
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
>> UK, London specifically.
>>
>> Last year we came across the same issue, I believe WOPR (?) was setup to run a US version of the software..
>>
>> sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
>> mobile +44 7961 149465
>>
>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 21:19, Joshua Benedetto <dasbooterror at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > My buddy who was playing under 'Budster' was going well, but the lag was simply too much to deal with from the US. Where is CHIMPY at these days?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
>> > ELEVEN DAYS LEFT UNTIL THE DEADLINE!
>> >
>> > The CHIMPY:: 2013 Retro VT100 Challenge closes at 23:59 GMT on 31-DEC-2013.
>> >
>> > At the moment, the leaders are (only the top two players are awarded):
>> >
>> > 1. Mark Holmes with a score of 9,816
>> > 2. Mark Wickens with a score of 7,640
>> >
>> > Unfortunately the mystery player vola1 disappeared with his score of over 11,000 - make sure you screen shot your result when entering you name into the leaderboard, and send it to me.
>> >
>> > Come on guys, let's get over 10K this year as well, SET HOST to CHIMPY and log in as TETRIS...
>> >
>> > sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
>> > mobile +44 7961 149465
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
