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QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet]

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

The item shown is just the interface box. The Pro 300 series Technical Manual describes the whole system it consists of three parts, the one shown in the Ebay entry is one of the three the Voice unit , which is basically a speakerphone box with some extra buttons on it that the software can see. Not clear if the other two parts, which are the important ones, are included in the offer. paul On May 20, 2014, at 1:04 PM, lee.gleason at comcast.net wrote: If anyone out there is hankering to have one, a DEC PRO telephone Voice Unit is on Ebay right now. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NASA-Digital-DEC-DTC11-B-Voice-Unit-Professional-30…

11 years, 1 month

QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet]

by lee.gleason＠comcast.net

If anyone out there is hankering to have one, a DEC PRO telephone Voice Unit is on Ebay right now. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NASA-Digital-DEC-DTC11-B-Voice-Unit-Professional-30… -- Lee K. Gleason N5ZMR Control-G Consultants lee.gleason at comcast.net From: "Billquist, Johnny" <bqt at softjar.se> To: "hecnet" <hecnet at Update.UU.SE> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:52:04 AM Subject: Re: QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet] On 2014-05-20 17:39, Jean-Yves Bernier wrote: > At 8:05 AM +0200 2/5/14, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > >> I've yet to see a PDP-11 with builtin color graphics _and_ sound. > > > This one has both: > http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/grm2082.jpg > > The machine is a SMS 1000 OEM 11/73. > > Here is the mixer screen: > http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR2.GRA.png > > and the edit screen: > http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR5.GRA.png > > > 512x512x8 frame buffer manufactured by Arinfo, France. > > Serial BitPad. > > Custom 4AD/8DA through DRV11. > > > Discontinued. Of course... :-( Anyway, I just realized/remembered that I'm not sure if the PRO was ever mentioned in the context of PDP-11 with graphics and sound. The PRO obviously always have grahpics. But there was also a sound option to it, which could interface with telephone systems. Not sure exactly how capable it was, but I have some blurb in a handbook somewhere. Johnny

11 years, 1 month

QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet]

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2014-05-20 18:04, Gregg Levine wrote: Hello! It's strange. I think I've seen a PRO someplace, but I can't recall where. I do recall seeing a PDP-11 working in special circumstances. (Would anyone curious please ask off list.) Would a board built to be a MIDI controller suffice? One of the composers who specializes in TV music basically constructed a whole system for a TV show about thirty years ago. Eventually he switched to a Mac....... Well, I have a PRO-380. But I don't have any sound on mine... I just know that there was at least the TMS system, which interfaced to the telephones. It could also produce general sounds, if I remember right. There might have been some other sound system as well, but I would have to check. Johnny ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2014-05-20 17:39, Jean-Yves Bernier wrote: At 8:05 AM +0200 2/5/14, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: I've yet to see a PDP-11 with builtin color graphics _and_ sound. This one has both: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/grm2082.jpg The machine is a SMS 1000 OEM 11/73. Here is the mixer screen: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR2.GRA.png and the edit screen: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR5.GRA.png 512x512x8 frame buffer manufactured by Arinfo, France. Serial BitPad. Custom 4AD/8DA through DRV11. Discontinued. Of course... :-( Anyway, I just realized/remembered that I'm not sure if the PRO was ever mentioned in the context of PDP-11 with graphics and sound. The PRO obviously always have grahpics. But there was also a sound option to it, which could interface with telephone systems. Not sure exactly how capable it was, but I have some blurb in a handbook somewhere. Johnny

11 years, 1 month

QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet]

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

Hello! It's strange. I think I've seen a PRO someplace, but I can't recall where. I do recall seeing a PDP-11 working in special circumstances. (Would anyone curious please ask off list.) Would a board built to be a MIDI controller suffice? One of the composers who specializes in TV music basically constructed a whole system for a TV show about thirty years ago. Eventually he switched to a Mac....... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2014-05-20 17:39, Jean-Yves Bernier wrote: At 8:05 AM +0200 2/5/14, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: I've yet to see a PDP-11 with builtin color graphics _and_ sound. This one has both: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/grm2082.jpg The machine is a SMS 1000 OEM 11/73. Here is the mixer screen: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR2.GRA.png and the edit screen: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR5.GRA.png 512x512x8 frame buffer manufactured by Arinfo, France. Serial BitPad. Custom 4AD/8DA through DRV11. Discontinued. Of course... :-( Anyway, I just realized/remembered that I'm not sure if the PRO was ever mentioned in the context of PDP-11 with graphics and sound. The PRO obviously always have grahpics. But there was also a sound option to it, which could interface with telephone systems. Not sure exactly how capable it was, but I have some blurb in a handbook somewhere. Johnny

11 years, 1 month

QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet]

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2014-05-20 17:39, Jean-Yves Bernier wrote: At 8:05 AM +0200 2/5/14, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: I've yet to see a PDP-11 with builtin color graphics _and_ sound. This one has both: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/grm2082.jpg The machine is a SMS 1000 OEM 11/73. Here is the mixer screen: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR2.GRA.png and the edit screen: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR5.GRA.png 512x512x8 frame buffer manufactured by Arinfo, France. Serial BitPad. Custom 4AD/8DA through DRV11. Discontinued. Of course... :-( Anyway, I just realized/remembered that I'm not sure if the PRO was ever mentioned in the context of PDP-11 with graphics and sound. The PRO obviously always have grahpics. But there was also a sound option to it, which could interface with telephone systems. Not sure exactly how capable it was, but I have some blurb in a handbook somewhere. Johnny

11 years, 1 month

RSTS/E is really picky

by b4＠gewt.net

On Tue, 20 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote: It's a dual-height board. I don't think it /can/ be an 11/23+! Doh! So you actually have a KDF11-AA (M8186). That sucks. I'm not sure if those were ever upgraded to 22-bit addressing, or if you need the KDF11-BA (M8189) for that. Not sure. Not going to complaing considering the price. ;) Oh well, so you might actually be stuck with 11M then. Yeah. :( My 11/23+ board is dead++ but I have a replacement (eventually) on the way. Hey, at least I can run mapped unlike my 11/03s. ;) I have a lot of those boards... I'm tired and I've been fiddling with many different things. ;) :-) Johnny -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

11 years, 1 month

RSTS/E is really picky

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2014-05-20 17:11, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Tue, 20 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote: My memory board is third-party. Looks like it's truncating my memory then. ;) Are you sure. Very few 11/23 systems actually exist. Most people really have 11/23+ systems, even if they are not aware of it. It's a dual-height board. I don't think it /can/ be an 11/23+! Doh! So you actually have a KDF11-AA (M8186). That sucks. I'm not sure if those were ever upgraded to 22-bit addressing, or if you need the KDF11-BA (M8189) for that. Oh well, so you might actually be stuck with 11M then. (That said, without split I/D-space, you'll have preciously little pool space, but that might not be a big issue for you right here.) Probably not. I'll only have one disk in use at a time really. Pool space is used for many things, but with just one user, and few things running, not much pool is needed. Ahh. I must be thinking of...buffer space? Not sure what you are thinking of. :-) I'm tired and I've been fiddling with many different things. ;) :-) Johnny

11 years, 1 month

QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet]

by bernier＠pescadoo.net

At 8:05 AM +0200 2/5/14, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: I've yet to see a PDP-11 with builtin color graphics _and_ sound. This one has both: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/grm2082.jpg The machine is a SMS 1000 OEM 11/73. Here is the mixer screen: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR2.GRA.png and the edit screen: http://www2.pescadoo.net/pdp/syter/INSTR5.GRA.png 512x512x8 frame buffer manufactured by Arinfo, France. Serial BitPad. Custom 4AD/8DA through DRV11. Discontinued. -- Jean-Yves Bernier

11 years, 1 month

RSTS/E is really picky

by b4＠gewt.net

On Tue, 20 May 2014, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote: The disk is 1048778 blocks. I created a 512M image and copied it bit-for-bit to the disk. I think i'll just go SYSGEN 4.8 and wait for my cleaning tapes to get RSTS/E working. How about copying the image back off, to see if the disk controller mangled it? I'll do that once RSX is up so I don't have to dismantle the system again. ;) The message you quoted says that the content of block 1 is invalid (the pack label). Judging by the code, what it found is 0143161 rather than a valid PCS. Interesting. I wonder how its getting mangled. The disk size IS changing between copy and creation, though. (Because both are different...apparently unavoidable due to 1000 versus 1024k.) I wonder if your partitioning disk controller is misbehaving. Possible...but RT-11 and RSX-11 are fine with it. They're a bit less picky though. VMS didn't seem too picky, either. BTW, sufficiently recent versions of RSTS (including the one you have, given that message) should handle a 2 GB disk directly (at DCS=64). That way you don t need to mess with partitions. I didn't have a tape drive at the time...so I would've needed to copy a 2G image at 10Mbit to a disk that wouldn't show up as 2G. (That drive then failed) I'll just wait for the cleaning tape. paul -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

11 years, 1 month

RSTS/E is really picky

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

On May 20, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Tue, 20 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote: After a reboot: Pack cluster size is not 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 or 64. PC=120324 PS=030344 OV=000006 M5=004000 M6=004200 SP=041236 R0=000026 R1=143161 R2=143161 R3=000000 R4=000002 R5=041350 The disk is 1048778 blocks. I created a 512M image and copied it bit-for-bit to the disk. I think i'll just go SYSGEN 4.8 and wait for my cleaning tapes to get RSTS/E working. How about copying the image back off, to see if the disk controller mangled it? The message you quoted says that the content of block 1 is invalid (the pack label). Judging by the code, what it found is 0143161 rather than a valid PCS. I wonder if your partitioning disk controller is misbehaving. BTW, sufficiently recent versions of RSTS (including the one you have, given that message) should handle a 2 GB disk directly (at DCS=64). That way you don t need to mess with partitions. paul

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