On 2014-11-15 11:57, Ryan Blair wrote:
On 11/14/14 4:43 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
What IS the current copyright status on TOPS-10/20? Who owns it? I
assume it's still copyrighted I assume...and I doubt the current
copyright owner would bother to enforce their rights to it.
Just curious.
http://www.36bit.org/dec/license.html
Tim Shoppa's site seems to be under active maintenance, but I believe
another text copy of the license is there as well.
Yes. And that covers hobbyist use of TOPS-10/20. However, as to the other part of the question - what is the legal status and who owns it, the answer is that it is still under copyright.
And the owners are XKL, who bought it all from DEC. And they still use it as well.
Johnny
On 11/14/14 4:43 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
What IS the current copyright status on TOPS-10/20? Who owns it? I
assume it's still copyrighted I assume...and I doubt the current
copyright owner would bother to enforce their rights to it.
Just curious.
http://www.36bit.org/dec/license.html
Tim Shoppa's site seems to be under active maintenance, but I believe
another text copy of the license is there as well.
-Ryan
Hello!
Mentec seems to have departed from the scene. As for the -11 stuff,
there's a site who claims to be its owner. Look at the site that our
friend runs for SIMH, there's an reference to it.
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
I don't believe so.
-brian
On Nov 14, 2014, at 20:13, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, Brian Hechinger wrote:
If I remember correctly they did not. They only got VMS. The PDP OSes went elsewhere.
Mentec got the -11 stuff...but I don't think that included the -10 stuff...did it?
-brian
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I don't believe so.
-brian
On Nov 14, 2014, at 20:13, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, Brian Hechinger wrote:
If I remember correctly they did not. They only got VMS. The PDP OSes went elsewhere.
Mentec got the -11 stuff...but I don't think that included the -10 stuff...did it?
-brian
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, Brian Hechinger wrote:
If I remember correctly they did not. They only got VMS. The PDP OSes went elsewhere.
Mentec got the -11 stuff...but I don't think that included the -10 stuff...did it?
-brian
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On Nov 14, 2014, at 7:47 PM, <Paul_Koning at Dell.com> <Paul_Koning at Dell.com> wrote:
On Nov 14, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Evening,
What IS the current copyright status on TOPS-10/20? Who owns it? I assume it's still copyrighted I assume...and I doubt the current copyright owner would bother to enforce their rights to it.
If it was copyrighted originally, that copyright is certainly still valid. Anything that didn t expire prior to the last set of changes will remain valid for decades, thanks to the Mickey Mouse Protection Act.
Interesting question who owns it. Did HP get that piece of DEC?
If I remember correctly they did not. They only got VMS. The PDP OSes went elsewhere.
-brian
On Nov 14, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Evening,
What IS the current copyright status on TOPS-10/20? Who owns it? I assume it's still copyrighted I assume...and I doubt the current copyright owner would bother to enforce their rights to it.
If it was copyrighted originally, that copyright is certainly still valid. Anything that didn t expire prior to the last set of changes will remain valid for decades, thanks to the Mickey Mouse Protection Act.
Interesting question who owns it. Did HP get that piece of DEC?
paul
Evening,
What IS the current copyright status on TOPS-10/20? Who owns it? I assume it's still copyrighted I assume...and I doubt the current copyright owner would bother to enforce their rights to it.
Just curious.
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http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
I wonder if it is even VMS. I had to do work for some fine company with a
ticketing monoploy, which used VAXen, but had a custom OS, which tied them
to not only VAX hardware, but a specific model.
The best part was their networking which involved UDP and a custom terminal
application. To make them secure they used DoD IPs which is great when one
of your other clients is the DoD.
They had never seen PPTP before, and were taken aback when I had their
application running in a new building that day.. And even showed them it
running over a VPN over the internet. Apparently that was something that
they had been struggling with. Oh well, 2002 was a million years ago.
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From: Hans Vlems
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Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [HECnet] Seems Like there might a consulting Job here
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Perhaps I'd better sell them one of my many VAXstation 4000-60's .
If they would have a vaxcluster license I might even sell them two units
:-)
Or would two VAX 4000-105A's ?with a DSSI bus be a better solution....
Hans
Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone.
Origineel bericht
Van: Dave McGuire
Verzonden: maandag 10 november 2014 16:51
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE; SIMH
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Seems Like there might a consulting Job here for
someone on this list
On 11/10/2014 09:38 AM, Clem Cole wrote:
Hawaii seems to still be running a 780 with Cobol application to process
its state payroll:
http://www.civilbeat.com/2014/11/civil-bytes-our-new-governor-should-upgra
de-states-sorry-technology/
A consulting job...or a freight account!
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
DECserver-250 would fix this! :-)
-Steve
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Yup, that's it. Gone are my dreams of setting up a high tech
exporting firm between the Netherlands and Hawaii (and
possibly even visiting the island).
And all that because I couldn't support a lineprinter (very
likely a real
LP11) on a VAXstation 4000 model 60. :-\ Hans
PS
ISTR a serial parallel interface but that might have
connected a serial printer to a parallel port, hmmm....
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Verzonden: maandag 10 november 2014 21:40
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Seems Like there might a consulting
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A line printer?
I said if..
/P