Speaking of which, it might be a good time to point out that the bridge program works fine on NetBSD, Linux and OpenBSD atleast (I think FreeBSD have also reported success).
And I'm now trying this on Snow Leopard. This is the first time I've tried on wireless as well.
So in general, there is nothing wrong with the program, nor the filter. I'm just having these problems explicitly on this platform. I can definitely see tcpdump printing out packets while the bridge program sits quite not receiving anything.
Johnny
Johnny Billquist wrote:
Yeah, possible problems with the filter program have been considered. I
tried skipping the filter program totally, but that didn't seem to solve
my problems. Might be worth examining a bit more anyway.
(I have a software check for "valid" packets as well, so skipping the
filter don't really hurt, except for performance reasons.)
Any suggestion on what libpcap might be good to use?
I seem to remember having problems with the network in simh as well,
when using it over wireless. I think I should test the wired interface
to see if the bridge works fine over that.
(I would sure like to check the tcpdump sources if they do something
funny...)
Johnny
Jason Stevens wrote:
sounds like a broke filter...?
I do recall it is quite touchy, and that when I used to build osx libpcap stuff (simh) in the past, I'd just download the latest pcap myself, and manually link that into the exe so it didn't use the system libpcap.....
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is supposed
to be a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I haven't figured
out yet, and thought that maybe someone here already knows, so I
don't have to go figure it out myself.
Running my bridge program on MAC OS X, I don't get all packets, but
I do get some of them. I can't see a pattern to it.
This is done over wireless ethernet.
The interesting thing is that tcpdump manages to see all of them.
I'm very curious on why tcpdump manages to see packets that I don't
see... Anyone have any ideas?
Feel free to ask questions. I'll happily explain what I have tested,
and done, and whatnot.
Johnny
-- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se> ||
Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Yeah, possible problems with the filter program have been considered. I
tried skipping the filter program totally, but that didn't seem to solve
my problems. Might be worth examining a bit more anyway.
(I have a software check for "valid" packets as well, so skipping the
filter don't really hurt, except for performance reasons.)
Any suggestion on what libpcap might be good to use?
I seem to remember having problems with the network in simh as well,
when using it over wireless. I think I should test the wired interface
to see if the bridge works fine over that.
(I would sure like to check the tcpdump sources if they do something
funny...)
Johnny
Jason Stevens wrote:
sounds like a broke filter...?
I do recall it is quite touchy, and that when I used to build osx libpcap stuff (simh) in the past, I'd just download the latest pcap myself, and manually link that into the exe so it didn't use the system libpcap.....
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is supposed
to be a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I haven't figured
out yet, and thought that maybe someone here already knows, so I
don't have to go figure it out myself.
Running my bridge program on MAC OS X, I don't get all packets, but
I do get some of them. I can't see a pattern to it.
This is done over wireless ethernet.
The interesting thing is that tcpdump manages to see all of them.
I'm very curious on why tcpdump manages to see packets that I don't
see... Anyone have any ideas?
Feel free to ask questions. I'll happily explain what I have tested,
and done, and whatnot.
Johnny
-- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se> ||
Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
sounds like a broke filter...?
I do recall it is quite touchy, and that when I used to build osx libpcap stuff (simh) in the past, I'd just download the latest pcap myself, and manually link that into the exe so it didn't use the system libpcap.....
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is supposed to be a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I haven't figured out yet, and thought that maybe someone here already knows, so I don't have to go figure it out myself.
Running my bridge program on MAC OS X, I don't get all packets, but I do get some of them. I can't see a pattern to it.
This is done over wireless ethernet.
The interesting thing is that tcpdump manages to see all of them. I'm very curious on why tcpdump manages to see packets that I don't see... Anyone have any ideas?
Feel free to ask questions. I'll happily explain what I have tested, and done, and whatnot.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Do anyone have experience with Apples pcap library? It is supposed to be a plain bsd pcap, but I have a problem that I haven't figured out yet, and thought that maybe someone here already knows, so I don't have to go figure it out myself.
Running my bridge program on MAC OS X, I don't get all packets, but I do get some of them. I can't see a pattern to it.
This is done over wireless ethernet.
The interesting thing is that tcpdump manages to see all of them. I'm very curious on why tcpdump manages to see packets that I don't see... Anyone have any ideas?
Feel free to ask questions. I'll happily explain what I have tested, and done, and whatnot.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
On 8.2.2010 12:12, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Gentlemen,
Is there any mileage in possibly moving the mailing list to something
like phpBB with a mailing list interface?
Basically, the current use pattern (i.e. emailing to a list and
receiving new posts via email) would remain unchanged, but there would
be an ability for users to view past posts etc via a web interface?
I'd be happy to look at setting this up if there's any interest.
Sampsa
.
Would VAXnotes be an option?
It's Freeware now and there are images for VAX and Alpha and even I64.
Very little work setting it up.
Kari
Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
This list seems to be quiet today, so here goes.
Basically I've recycled a project. In this case its to construct a
something to talk to DEC designed ports. It turns out that after
making my way last night through Google and the NetBSD Vax port
listings, I have discovered that the MMJ connectors are still active.
Two places are selling the tools to make cables, one firm local to me,
is still selling the connectors, and one firm is still selling the
Ideal Tool designed crimping device. And indeed links for them came
from the list.
Now the irony, the manufacturer behind the gadget I am interested, has
renamed itself, according to Wikipedia, and has a badly designed
website. The manual for it was found from someplace else via Google.
The manual for it also confirms something that both this list, and
that the NetBSD list have long surmised, that the MMJ pinouts are for
RS-423 connections. The adapters we use for RS-232 connectors on our
PCs for acting as hosts obviously do the translation.
And as it happens snow finally came to my area, and shutdown for the
day the schools in NYC.
I'm not sure what you are saying here...
Maybe I'm dense, or something.
I'm not aware that this list (or some people) on it have surmised anything. Can't speak for the NetBSD-list, as there are way too many people there, with different knowledge and experience...
And in my mind (atleast) it has been known since the dawn of time that the DEC MMJ connectors are RS-423.
See for instance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modified_Modular_Jack
The MMJ are RS-232 compatible (as is RS-423), the adapters just do the wiring properly, and that's it.
Friday at last. HECnet seems to be running pretty stable at the moment. A few machines come and go, but we seem to be pretty stable on which areas are online.
As of this moment:
.ncp sho act are
Active areas summary as of 12-FEB-10 17:52:23
Next
Area State Circuit Node
1 Reachable 1.13 (MIM)
2 Reachable UNA-0 60.664 (PDXVAX)
11 Reachable UNA-0 11.2 (MAISA)
19 Reachable UNA-0 1.400 (GORVAX)
59 Reachable UNA-0 60.664 (PDXVAX)
60 Reachable UNA-0 60.664 (PDXVAX)
Johnny
Hello!
This list seems to be quiet today, so here goes.
Basically I've recycled a project. In this case its to construct a
something to talk to DEC designed ports. It turns out that after
making my way last night through Google and the NetBSD Vax port
listings, I have discovered that the MMJ connectors are still active.
Two places are selling the tools to make cables, one firm local to me,
is still selling the connectors, and one firm is still selling the
Ideal Tool designed crimping device. And indeed links for them came
from the list.
Now the irony, the manufacturer behind the gadget I am interested, has
renamed itself, according to Wikipedia, and has a badly designed
website. The manual for it was found from someplace else via Google.
The manual for it also confirms something that both this list, and
that the NetBSD list have long surmised, that the MMJ pinouts are for
RS-423 connections. The adapters we use for RS-232 connectors on our
PCs for acting as hosts obviously do the translation.
And as it happens snow finally came to my area, and shutdown for the
day the schools in NYC.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Gentlemen,
Is there any mileage in possibly moving the mailing list to something like phpBB with a mailing list interface?
Basically, the current use pattern (i.e. emailing to a list and receiving new posts via email) would remain unchanged, but there would be an ability for users to view past posts etc via a web interface?
I'd be happy to look at setting this up if there's any interest.
Sampsa
On 7 Feb 2010, at 03:35, Gregg Levine wrote:
Hello!
Great! I am looking at this directory:
http://rhesus.sampsa.com/medialib/vax/ I've figured out that the zip
file contains a build of Multinet for the VAX. But what about those
two ISO images?
Those SHOULD be the install and layered products CDs for VAX VMS 7.3..
Incidentally if you see a short individual wearing a hair style also
worn by the Beatles and a boring sport jacket and shirt, and check
pants and is followed by a pretty young woman and a chap wearing a
MacCrimmon tartan, duck. That's the Second Doctor, and they're rumored
to be in your area.
West Kensington gets more interesting by the day I guess...
Sampsa
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Typo, thought I'd clarify:
In case you need to get stuff from RHESUS over HTTP, the media library dir
is _NOW_ available at http://rhesus.sampsa.com/medialib/
On 7 Feb 2010, at 03:19, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Guys,
In case you need to get stuff from RHESUS over HTTP, the media library dir
is not available at http://rhesus.sampsa.com/medialib/
Sampsa
Hello!
Great! I am looking at this directory:
http://rhesus.sampsa.com/medialib/vax/ I've figured out that the zip
file contains a build of Multinet for the VAX. But what about those
two ISO images?
Incidentally if you see a short individual wearing a hair style also
worn by the Beatles and a boring sport jacket and shirt, and check
pants and is followed by a pretty young woman and a chap wearing a
MacCrimmon tartan, duck. That's the Second Doctor, and they're rumored
to be in your area.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
