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Site renumbering (new area 8) + bits and bobs

by bob＠jfcl.com

I see. He didn't mention that to me. Sorry - I tried to answer your phone call, but it fails because CHARON doesn't have the right address for CHIMPY. Actually, yes, I'd like to have the link to GORVAX as a redundant route to the rest of the nodes. There's no problem with redundant routes using Multinet point to point links - DECnet will just pick the path with the least cost to the destination and ignore the others. If the least cost path goes down, then DECnet will pick the new least cost path, whatever that might be. There are, OTOH, issues with creating loops using the bridge program, but that has nothing to do with Multinet. BTW, who is Steve and how come he's setting himself up as the central routing hub for HECnet? In general I'm not comfortable with any architecture that has a single point of failure, no matter how many machines and how much bandwidth he may have. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Sampsa Laine [mailto:sampsa at mac.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:53 AM To: bob at jfcl.com Cc: Steve Davidson Subject: Re: [HECnet] Site renumbering (new area 8) + bits and bobs Steve told me to take it down, something about loops. Does it need to be up? Sampsa On 3 Jun 2010, at 14:52, Bob Armstrong wrote: Sampsa - Do you know why the Multinet link from CHARON to GORVAX is down? Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Sampsa Laine Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:42 AM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] Site renumbering (new area 8) + bits and bobs Guys, We (well mostly Steve D) today did a renumbering exercise on my systems (CHIMPY, RHESUS, GORVAX and FIDOGW) into a new area, 8. Please be sure to pull a new node database off MIM to continue to be able to reach my site. Also, because of the renumbering, MIM is no longer getting annoying error messages so I am running the phone directory poller again, it's at http://rhesus.sampsa.com/hecnetdir.html Sampsa

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Site renumbering (new area 8) + bits and bobs

by bqt＠softjar.se

Hi. Bob Armstrong wrote: Please be sure to pull a new node database off MIM to continue to be able to reach my site. Hmmm - I can't talk to MIM this morning. I can reach PONDUS, 1.15, which is the adjacent routing node in area 1, but not MIM. Is MIM still 1.13?? Yes. However... Ooops. MIM just crashed... Rebooting now... Johnny

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Site renumbering (new area 8) + bits and bobs

by sampsa＠mac.com

Yeah I can't see MIM either - but I can see you. Maybe MIM is down or something? Sampsa On 3 Jun 2010, at 14:55, Bob Armstrong wrote: Please be sure to pull a new node database off MIM to continue to be able to reach my site. Hmmm - I can't talk to MIM this morning. I can reach PONDUS, 1.15, which is the adjacent routing node in area 1, but not MIM. Is MIM still 1.13?? Bob

14 years, 5 months

Site renumbering (new area 8) + bits and bobs

by bob＠jfcl.com

Please be sure to pull a new node database off MIM to continue to be able to reach my site. Hmmm - I can't talk to MIM this morning. I can reach PONDUS, 1.15, which is the adjacent routing node in area 1, but not MIM. Is MIM still 1.13?? Bob

14 years, 5 months

Site renumbering (new area 8) + bits and bobs

by sampsa＠mac.com

Steve told me to take it down, something about loops. Does it need to be up? Sampsa On 3 Jun 2010, at 14:52, Bob Armstrong wrote: Sampsa - Do you know why the Multinet link from CHARON to GORVAX is down? Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Sampsa Laine Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:42 AM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] Site renumbering (new area 8) + bits and bobs Guys, We (well mostly Steve D) today did a renumbering exercise on my systems (CHIMPY, RHESUS, GORVAX and FIDOGW) into a new area, 8. Please be sure to pull a new node database off MIM to continue to be able to reach my site. Also, because of the renumbering, MIM is no longer getting annoying error messages so I am running the phone directory poller again, it's at http://rhesus.sampsa.com/hecnetdir.html Sampsa

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Site renumbering (new area 8) + bits and bobs

by bob＠jfcl.com

Sampsa - Do you know why the Multinet link from CHARON to GORVAX is down? Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Sampsa Laine Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:42 AM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] Site renumbering (new area 8) + bits and bobs Guys, We (well mostly Steve D) today did a renumbering exercise on my systems (CHIMPY, RHESUS, GORVAX and FIDOGW) into a new area, 8. Please be sure to pull a new node database off MIM to continue to be able to reach my site. Also, because of the renumbering, MIM is no longer getting annoying error messages so I am running the phone directory poller again, it's at http://rhesus.sampsa.com/hecnetdir.html Sampsa

14 years, 5 months

Site renumbering (new area 8) + bits and bobs

by sampsa＠mac.com

Guys, We (well mostly Steve D) today did a renumbering exercise on my systems (CHIMPY, RHESUS, GORVAX and FIDOGW) into a new area, 8. Please be sure to pull a new node database off MIM to continue to be able to reach my site. Also, because of the renumbering, MIM is no longer getting annoying error messages so I am running the phone directory poller again, it's at http://rhesus.sampsa.com/hecnetdir.html Sampsa

14 years, 5 months

UK based people - we must go to this (Vintage Computer Festival UK)

by jeep＠scshome.net

One machine will run Multinet, one will run the bridge. More info when I have it. -Steve From: Sampsa Laine [mailto:sampsa at mac.com] Sent: Mon 5/31/2010 19:33 To: Steve Davidson Subject: Re: [HECnet] UK based people - we must go to this (Vintage Computer Festival UK) Steve, I can see 19.40 (SGC) from GORVAX on the ethernet interface, as you going to run the bridge or MULTINET or both? Sampsa On 31 May 2010, at 23:26, Sampsa Laine wrote: Steve, I just bounced GORVAX, the 19 circuit seems not to be up yet... Sampsa On 31 May 2010, at 14:37, Steve Davidson wrote: Sampsa, It doesn't mention HECnet by name on the website. If you can arrange it, maybe put in a HECnet gateway there. Just the gateway, nothing else. I will commit to bringing all of my systems (and clusters) up for that weekend. None of the machines here are newer than 1993 and that includes the Alpha's. The earliest hardware that can be on the net is circa 1985. Everything here is DEC and only DEC not Compaq and certainly not HP. This means that the only thing that will be available will be actual hardware (from this end). I could (maybe) have up to 15 machines running by then. I can see that electric meter move now - probably faster than it ever has! I can bring up PDP-11's, VAXen, and Alpha's. I did not publish this to the list intentionally. Let me know if I need to be able to bring everything up. Also, all of the various gateways should be stable by then so we can really show something. Maybe show how vintage systems can still communicate in the current world with current hardware. -Steve From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Sampsa Laine Sent: Mon 5/31/2010 08:52 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] UK based people - we must go to this (Vintage Computer Festival UK) Guys, Check this out: http://www.tnmoc.org/vcf-gb.aspx Maybe we could get HECnet involved somehow? Or are we already doing this and I've totally missed the boat on it all? Sampsa

14 years, 5 months

UK based people - we must go to this (Vintage Computer Festival UK)

by jeep＠scshome.net

That's because the new system disk build went into mount-verify-timeout. Never a good thing... I'm still looking for a replace disk. Also, the TOY clock and battery are having some issues. When it rains... it pours! -Steve From: Sampsa Laine [mailto:sampsa at mac.com] Sent: Mon 5/31/2010 18:26 To: Steve Davidson Subject: Re: [HECnet] UK based people - we must go to this (Vintage Computer Festival UK) Steve, I just bounced GORVAX, the 19 circuit seems not to be up yet... Sampsa On 31 May 2010, at 14:37, Steve Davidson wrote: Sampsa, It doesn't mention HECnet by name on the website. If you can arrange it, maybe put in a HECnet gateway there. Just the gateway, nothing else. I will commit to bringing all of my systems (and clusters) up for that weekend. None of the machines here are newer than 1993 and that includes the Alpha's. The earliest hardware that can be on the net is circa 1985. Everything here is DEC and only DEC not Compaq and certainly not HP. This means that the only thing that will be available will be actual hardware (from this end). I could (maybe) have up to 15 machines running by then. I can see that electric meter move now - probably faster than it ever has! I can bring up PDP-11's, VAXen, and Alpha's. I did not publish this to the list intentionally. Let me know if I need to be able to bring everything up. Also, all of the various gateways should be stable by then so we can really show something. Maybe show how vintage systems can still communicate in the current world with current hardware. -Steve From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Sampsa Laine Sent: Mon 5/31/2010 08:52 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] UK based people - we must go to this (Vintage Computer Festival UK) Guys, Check this out: http://www.tnmoc.org/vcf-gb.aspx Maybe we could get HECnet involved somehow? Or are we already doing this and I've totally missed the boat on it all? Sampsa

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hecnet.eu

by bqt＠softjar.se

Mark, I should make a longer comment when I have some time, but just as a short reply, the information on my page is on the internet, thus it is free. So feel free to duplicate it. More later... Johnny Mark Wickens wrote: Hi Guys, http://hecnet.eu is up and running - not much up there, but there is more to come! Johnny - can I duplicate your information on this site? It's running on an OpenVMS box connected to hecnet, the site is generated using the utility asctohtm to encourage you guys to make a contribution. Asctohtm runs on the VAX and can process very simply formatted ASCII into a nice looking webpage - perfect for adding content by using a VAX/PDP box and then copying it via hecnet onto the target. I'd also like to get a script running to determine the active state of the network, and in the long run a bit of client site charting to produce a network diagram. In the first instance I'd like email suggestions of content please (or you can email me actual content). The idea in the long run is to create a batch job that will scan the decnet default directory and pickup contributions to put on the wall by automatically converting the ascii files into HTML. I'd also like to create an online tutorial/faq to walk people through the basic decnet/bridge setup as well as point out any common issues. Lots of ideas in the pipeline - we did talk about issuing @hecnet.eu email address which would automatically get piped through a SMTP gateway - which would also be very nice. It'd also be nice to get some bios & backgrounds on people using hecnet - sometimes even though it's a big network it can feel a bit lonely! Regards, Mark -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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