The rx4640 is interesting as it makes use of so-called "cell"-architecture, unlike the single-
"cell" "entry-level" systems (like the rx1600/rx1620, zx6000/rx2600/rx2620 and so forth), thus
a bit more like the 'big iron' Integrity systems (like the rx7620, rx8620 and the Superdome).
I believe the rx4640 can take two, which can be fitted with four single-core processors each
or two "mx2" dual-processor modules (as seen in the first Integrity Superdome systems).
It certainly matters not; however, I believe myself to be correct in stating that cell architecture begins at the rx76 level and above.The non-cell rx6600, for example, is considered "entry level", is fashioned for the [mostly non-existent] HP/UX app-tier space due to the large number of onboard SAS drives (I have eight... I believe it will hold 16). Otherwise, a large number of onboard drives, as you've alluded, is pointless since HP/UX finds itself mostly within the database tier (rx7640, etc.. hold four onboard u320s). Boot from SAN with HP/UX is, again, rare (said "pointless"), since the complication that ensues has little (if any) return on investment excepting, perhaps, infrastructure based disaster recovery.
The rx4640 should hold four dual-core I2s (1.6GHz / 24MB L3), and should have Madison / Tukwila availability to allow one to run openVMS under HP Integrity Virtual Machines.
On 8 Jul 2011, at 15:29, Gregg Levine wrote:
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
Just to remind you guys that the live feed is running from NASA for the last
space shuttle launch.
http://countdown.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/cdt/http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
Regards, Mark.
Hello!
Of course Mark. But the weather may cause it to be scrubbed, because
right now they are experiencing the worst weather in about seven
years. Which for Florida is a good thing. They need more rain then we
do.
You'll get a much better feed from www.spacevidcast.com in HD and you can chat to other space geeks while you are watching.
I'm an active spaceflight enthusiast, thanks to the power of Twitter. I went to Florida to see the launch of STS-134 (last flight of Endeavour) but missed it due to the scrub :( I know a ton of people on-site at KSC and around the area at the moment who are all waiting with baited breath.
Weather was quoted as 30% go but it's not looking too bad - might be a chance to launch today. If not it's improving over the weekend.
Oh and GO ATLANTIS!! :)
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On 8-7-2011 12:10, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Maybe time to curb this discussion? It has nothing to do with HECnet, and it's becoming quite a few posts... Not everyone on this list even runs VMS, or cares about itaniums... :-)
Feel free to continue it in direct mails, or some other forum perhaps?
Okay, will do.
- MG
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
Just to remind you guys that the live feed is running from NASA for the last
space shuttle launch.
http://countdown.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/cdt/http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
Regards, Mark.
Hello!
Of course Mark. But the weather may cause it to be scrubbed, because
right now they are experiencing the worst weather in about seven
years. Which for Florida is a good thing. They need more rain then we
do.
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On 8.7.2011 13:52, Mark Wickens wrote:
On 08/07/11 11:42, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
On 8.7.2011 12:58, Mark Wickens wrote:
On 08/07/11 10:56, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
On 8.7.2011 12:51, Mark Benson wrote:
On 8 Jul 2011, at 10:38, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
If you have a MP card on a Integrity server (or workstation) and
need _only_ the (local) console function, you can use a regular
25-pin null modem cable to access the console functions and of
course the other MP functions as well. The 25-pin interface is wired
so that the console uses the standard pins (2,3 and 7).
Of course you can use the LAN console functions provided with the MP
card. In some cases only the MP serial interface will be accessible
and usable.
The MP card is otherwise useful also. E.g. if the machine crashes,
you'll be able to check the logs for what has happened or if the
machine is completely jammed, you can reset it remotely.
I've heard a few people say the Remote MP card doesn't work on the
zx6000 - It's gotta be a firmware setting somewhere as the zx6000 and
rx2600 are the same machine with different fas and a firmware switch
changed.
I have a zx6000 with the MP card and it functions exactly like on a
rx2600 or any other Integrity system.
Do you get a graphics display via the VGA port though? That's the bit
that I was under the impression was broken when putting the MP card in
the ZX6000. I've never got anything out of it, anyway...
Oh, yes, and I've put a 25pin to 9pin cable in the serial port and can
confirm it works nicely.
Regards, Mark.
.
I write directly to you now, because Johnny wanted to end the
discussion via the HECnet mailbox.
I found this note in the manual:
The graphics display port functionality on the HP Management
Processor Card is not supported on zx6000 workstations with an
AGP graphics card installed; all other HP Management Processor
Card functionality is supported.
That explains why the VGA port doesn't work if you have a graphics
card installed.
Regards,
Kari
Yes, I can confirm it doesn't work with a PCI ATI 7500 installed either.
I think it must be something to do with the configuration including the
AGP card cage, regardless of whether there is a graphics card installed
or not. I think I tried it without a card in aswell, no joy.
Regards, Mark.
.
I see. I haven't really made so much effort as to try the VGA port, because the graphics card was installed. If it hadn't been, most probably I would have done all possible research to get the VGA working. I remember reading something about the I/O definitions in EFI which affect the VGA port also, but since it is more than two years ago, I've forgot it.
I guess that the VGA port was more or less included for Linux or Windows use rather than for HP-UX or VMS.
I can see what I can find out about the VGA port and if there's any possibilities to use it with VMS. I really do doubt it, because the demand for VMS workstations has been next to nothing for years already and taken the VMS engineering efforts (in India) my doubts don't diminish. I talked to the people from the VMS Engineering last September when they were in Europe and even though they are friendly and nice, the message without words was that they only concentrate on brand new systems and do support on old systems only on demand basis.
In the case of zx6000, I assume it wasn't really meant to be a VMS workstation, but because the rx2600 is the same hardware except for the AGP slot, there wasn't a big effort to port an Ati Radeon 7500 driver (which existed already for Alpha) to make the zx6000 usable as a VMS workstation and then be added to the marketing material.
Regards,
Kari
On 8 Jul 2011, at 11:10, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Maybe time to curb this discussion? It has nothing to do with HECnet, and it's becoming quite a few posts... Not everyone on this list even runs VMS, or cares about itaniums... :-)
Feel free to continue it in direct mails, or some other forum perhaps?
Sorry - my bad :\
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Follow me on Twitter:
http://twitter.com/mdbenson
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On 08/07/11 11:42, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
On 8.7.2011 12:58, Mark Wickens wrote:
On 08/07/11 10:56, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
On 8.7.2011 12:51, Mark Benson wrote:
On 8 Jul 2011, at 10:38, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
If you have a MP card on a Integrity server (or workstation) and
need _only_ the (local) console function, you can use a regular
25-pin null modem cable to access the console functions and of
course the other MP functions as well. The 25-pin interface is wired
so that the console uses the standard pins (2,3 and 7).
Of course you can use the LAN console functions provided with the MP
card. In some cases only the MP serial interface will be accessible
and usable.
The MP card is otherwise useful also. E.g. if the machine crashes,
you'll be able to check the logs for what has happened or if the
machine is completely jammed, you can reset it remotely.
I've heard a few people say the Remote MP card doesn't work on the
zx6000 - It's gotta be a firmware setting somewhere as the zx6000 and
rx2600 are the same machine with different fas and a firmware switch
changed.
I have a zx6000 with the MP card and it functions exactly like on a
rx2600 or any other Integrity system.
Do you get a graphics display via the VGA port though? That's the bit
that I was under the impression was broken when putting the MP card in
the ZX6000. I've never got anything out of it, anyway...
Oh, yes, and I've put a 25pin to 9pin cable in the serial port and can
confirm it works nicely.
Regards, Mark.
.
I write directly to you now, because Johnny wanted to end the discussion via the HECnet mailbox.
I found this note in the manual:
The graphics display port functionality on the HP Management
Processor Card is not supported on zx6000 workstations with an
AGP graphics card installed; all other HP Management Processor
Card functionality is supported.
That explains why the VGA port doesn't work if you have a graphics card installed.
Regards,
Kari
Yes, I can confirm it doesn't work with a PCI ATI 7500 installed either.
I think it must be something to do with the configuration including the AGP card cage, regardless of whether there is a graphics card installed or not. I think I tried it without a card in aswell, no joy.
Regards, Mark.
On 8-7-2011 11:38, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
If you have a MP card on a Integrity server (or workstation) and need _only_ the (local) console function, you can use a regular 25-pin null modem cable to access the console functions and of course the other MP functions as well. The 25-pin interface is wired so that the console uses the standard pins (2,3 and 7).
Of course you can use the LAN console functions provided with the MP card. In some cases only the MP serial interface will be accessible and usable.
The MP card is otherwise useful also. E.g. if the machine crashes, you'll be able to check the logs for what has happened or if the machine is completely jammed, you can reset it remotely.
That's what I said (or tried to say). Also, I know what a MP card is, I use it
almost on a daily basis...
- MG
On 2011-07-08 11:58, Mark Wickens wrote:
On 08/07/11 10:56, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
On 8.7.2011 12:51, Mark Benson wrote:
On 8 Jul 2011, at 10:38, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
If you have a MP card on a Integrity server (or workstation) and
need _only_ the (local) console function, you can use a regular
25-pin null modem cable to access the console functions and of
course the other MP functions as well. The 25-pin interface is wired
so that the console uses the standard pins (2,3 and 7).
Of course you can use the LAN console functions provided with the MP
card. In some cases only the MP serial interface will be accessible
and usable.
The MP card is otherwise useful also. E.g. if the machine crashes,
you'll be able to check the logs for what has happened or if the
machine is completely jammed, you can reset it remotely.
I've heard a few people say the Remote MP card doesn't work on the
zx6000 - It's gotta be a firmware setting somewhere as the zx6000 and
rx2600 are the same machine with different fas and a firmware switch
changed.
I have a zx6000 with the MP card and it functions exactly like on a
rx2600 or any other Integrity system.
Do you get a graphics display via the VGA port though? That's the bit
that I was under the impression was broken when putting the MP card in
the ZX6000. I've never got anything out of it, anyway...
Oh, yes, and I've put a 25pin to 9pin cable in the serial port and can
confirm it works nicely.
Maybe time to curb this discussion? It has nothing to do with HECnet, and it's becoming quite a few posts... Not everyone on this list even runs VMS, or cares about itaniums... :-)
Feel free to continue it in direct mails, or some other forum perhaps?
Johnny
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