On 16 Jan 2012, at 13:43, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
2008 adds PowerShell and exposes a lot more admin features to the cli. I've never used it but I hear you can do anything in the cli you can do in the GUI.
That came in with Vista/Server 2008/Win7 so it's not really greatly applicable to PATHWORKS. I haven't used Powershell yet either but I have heard its very comprehensive.
Mark,
The cmd environment is useful, like turning off a pc, say, to make your daughter go to bed. ..
I will admit it does have uses. I was thinking along the lines of rebooting IIS every time it dies, memory leaks or stops working for other random reasons ;)
When the unix tools kit is installed a lot more functionality is available. May be I'm too fond of ascii user interfaces...
You and me both :)
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Mark Benson
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2008 adds PowerShell and exposes a lot more admin features to the cli. I've never used it but I hear you can do anything in the cli you can do in the GUI.
-brian
On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:12, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote:
Mark,
The cmd environment is useful, like turning off a pc, say, to make your daughter go to bed. ..
When the unix tools kit is installed a lot more functionality is available. May be I'm too fond of ascii user interfaces...
Hans
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On 16 Jan 2012, at 12:05, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
I don't think that a CTERM listener exists for Pathworks32.
I don't think it has one, at least not in 7.4 that I have but I am waiting on getting XP Pro so I can test the server side of PATHWORKS 32 as XP Home doesn't have the user admin tools I need to make it work.
Frankly commandline access to Windows NT wouldn't be that useful anyway ;)
In general remote login on Windows machines are not that common. Not sure I've ever seen a telnet server either (but I'm sure that DO exist).
Windows 2000 has a TELNET server IIRC. Naturally, I turned it off ;)
Windows machines are meant to be used locally, using the graphical interface. Not remotely using a plain terminal.
Yes, Windows is generally a graphical environment and command terminal access is only usually used for running UNIX-like stuff largely or running batch automation/unattended install scripts and the like.
Remote access *is* quite common in Windows environments but it is mostly via Remote Desktop/Terminal Services or something like Citrix handing out remote graphical desktops. Remote command terminal access is very rare.
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Mark,
The cmd environment is useful, like turning off a pc, say, to make your daughter go to bed. ..
When the unix tools kit is installed a lot more functionality is available. May be I'm too fond of ascii user interfaces...
Hans
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On 16 Jan 2012, at 12:05, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
I don't think that a CTERM listener exists for Pathworks32.
I don't think it has one, at least not in 7.4 that I have but I am waiting on getting XP Pro so I can test the server side of PATHWORKS 32 as XP Home doesn't have the user admin tools I need to make it work.
Frankly commandline access to Windows NT wouldn't be that useful anyway ;)
In general remote login on Windows machines are not that common. Not sure I've ever seen a telnet server either (but I'm sure that DO exist).
Windows 2000 has a TELNET server IIRC. Naturally, I turned it off ;)
Windows machines are meant to be used locally, using the graphical interface. Not remotely using a plain terminal.
Yes, Windows is generally a graphical environment and command terminal access is only usually used for running UNIX-like stuff largely or running batch automation/unattended install scripts and the like.
Remote access *is* quite common in Windows environments but it is mostly via Remote Desktop/Terminal Services or something like Citrix handing out remote graphical desktops. Remote command terminal access is very rare.
--
Mark Benson
http://markbenson.org/bloghttp://twitter.com/MDBenson
On 16 Jan 2012, at 12:05, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
I don't think that a CTERM listener exists for Pathworks32.
I don't think it has one, at least not in 7.4 that I have but I am waiting on getting XP Pro so I can test the server side of PATHWORKS 32 as XP Home doesn't have the user admin tools I need to make it work.
Frankly commandline access to Windows NT wouldn't be that useful anyway ;)
In general remote login on Windows machines are not that common. Not sure I've ever seen a telnet server either (but I'm sure that DO exist).
Windows 2000 has a TELNET server IIRC. Naturally, I turned it off ;)
Windows machines are meant to be used locally, using the graphical interface. Not remotely using a plain terminal.
Yes, Windows is generally a graphical environment and command terminal access is only usually used for running UNIX-like stuff largely or running batch automation/unattended install scripts and the like.
Remote access *is* quite common in Windows environments but it is mostly via Remote Desktop/Terminal Services or something like Citrix handing out remote graphical desktops. Remote command terminal access is very rare.
--
Mark Benson
http://markbenson.org/bloghttp://twitter.com/MDBenson
Not every Windows kit contains a telnet server. XP professional does have one. It uses NTLM authentication by default. Access via say VMS requires that you switch it off. Once done it is rather useful. The commandline interface is accessible while you're far away from the Windows system. Which is not a bad thing per se ;-)
Hans
On 2012-01-16 06.16, Pinocchio wrote:
On 2012-01-15 22.15, Pinocchio wrote:
Hi guys!
Do Pathworks32 includes server part of CTerm protocol?
I mean I can setup Pathworks32 to be a file server for sharing files to
other DECnet clients.
Is such capability exists for CTerm protocol? Documentation do not
mention such function,
but I see one interesting message "TNET0005N: Pwtelnt loaded
successfully" in Pathworks32 event log.
So I am wonder, is it sign of server part of CTerm protocol presence?
You are confused. :-)
CTERM is an interactive terminal protocol. It is not used to transfer
files.
What you need is a FAL listener. And yes, I think that Pathworks 32 do
include that.
Johnny
Sorry for confusing manner of asking questions! :-)
My question is exactly about CTERM terminal protocol.
Is server part of CTERM present in pathworks32?
Ah. Now, that was a different question. :-)
(The first one was like "how do I setup telnet to share files".)
I don't think that a CTERM listener exists for Pathworks32. In general remote login on Windows machines are not that common. Not sure I've ever seen a telnet server either (but I'm sure that DO exist).
Windows machines are meant to be used locally, using the graphical interface. Not remotely using a plain terminal.
Johnny
On 2012-01-15 22.15, Pinocchio wrote:
Hi guys!
Do Pathworks32 includes server part of CTerm protocol?
I mean I can setup Pathworks32 to be a file server for sharing files to
other DECnet clients.
Is such capability exists for CTerm protocol? Documentation do not
mention such function,
but I see one interesting message TNET0005N: Pwtelnt loaded
successfully in Pathworks32 event log.
So I am wonder, is it sign of server part of CTerm protocol presence?
You are confused. :-)
CTERM is an interactive terminal protocol. It is not used to transfer files.
What you need is a FAL listener. And yes, I think that Pathworks 32 do include that.
Johnny
The server part is built in the remote host's DECnet kit. If I read your question correctly that is.
Hans
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Subject: [HECnet] Is Pathworks32 server CTerm part exists?
Hi guys!
Do Pathworks32 includes server part of CTerm protocol?
I mean I can setup Pathworks32 to be a file server for sharing files to other DECnet clients.
Is such capability exists for CTerm protocol? Documentation do not mention such function,
but I see one interesting message TNET0005N: Pwtelnt loaded successfully in Pathworks32 event log.
So I am wonder, is it sign of server part of CTerm protocol presence?
Hi guys!
Do Pathworks32 includes server part of CTerm protocol?
I mean I can setup Pathworks32 to be a file server for sharing files to other DECnet clients.
Is such capability exists for CTerm protocol? Documentation do not mention such function,
but I see one interesting message TNET0005N: Pwtelnt loaded successfully in Pathworks32 event log.
So I am wonder, is it sign of server part of CTerm protocol presence?
Hmmm... from section 1.8 in the Decnet-20 system managers guide...
SYSTEM OVERVIEW
Each of the following commands is complete.
Command keyword only:
NCP>EXIT
To get to an NCP prompt, you can do this:
@ENABLE
$OPR
OPR>ENTER NCP
NCP>SHOW EXEC
...
--Marc
