El 01/07/2012, a les 18:46, Johnny Billquist va escriure:
On 2012-07-01 18:16, Steve Davidson wrote:
Johnny,
Please send out the latest copy of the AREA list to the reflector. It
would be nice to know what is real about areas, locations, and "owner".
I have currently area 7 and 8 disabled on my bridge, just FYI. Seems to have at least stabilized things on my side.
At this moment my host computer seems to be back into the normal status. I've rebooted it and restarted all the VMS, CPU usage and routing information seems to be fine. You could try to reenable me as soon as you want.
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
On 2012-07-01 18:16, Steve Davidson wrote:
Johnny,
Please send out the latest copy of the AREA list to the reflector. It
would be nice to know what is real about areas, locations, and "owner".
I have currently area 7 and 8 disabled on my bridge, just FYI. Seems to have at least stabilized things on my side.
Routing loops are bad. However, DECnet should normally be able to resolve this, and get things right, as from a topology point of view, DECnet can have multiple paths between nodes. Something is wrong, indeed...
The current list of the areas are on MIM::, which is shut down at the moment, because of the issues with the computer hall. I hope to have the machine back up and running soon...
Since GORVAX have an alternative connection, I'll keep it off at my end for now, for trouble shooting. As things looks stable right now, it will be interesting to turn area 7 back on and see what happens. Hold on to your hats...
Johnny
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Johnny,
Please send out the latest copy of the AREA list to the reflector. It
would be nice to know what is real about areas, locations, and "owner".
Thanks!
-Steve
My Multinet link to area 59 is down, but LEGATO thinks area 59 is
accessible thru CEIRE, which thinks that it's accessible thru A54RTR. The
latter box apparently doesn't speak NML (or won't talk to me) so I can't ask
it what's going on. Peter??? Are you out there?? Is area 59 up or
down??? And what's A54RTR?
Hi Bob,
At least one of the Peters involved is here :-)
A54RTR is a Cisco IGS which has GRE tunnels to area 59 on test. It appears
the more standard connection from area 59 to the rest of Hecnet (via SG1
perhaps?) is down.
A similar thing is going on with area 52 (CEIRE -> A54RTR -> ???) although
I don't have a Multinet link in this instance. Are there any machines in
area 52 actually up?
Area 52 appears to be reachable via area 59. It looks likely that area 52
should also be reachable via SG1 but isn't.
The router(s) in area 52 and 59 don't appear to speak (much) NML either.
At this moment I can't see anything from area 7. I guess John has just turned off his side.
El 01/07/2012, a les 17:29, Bob Armstrong va escriure:
don t know if any of it means anything, but there are many odd things as observed from LEGATO.
LEGATO thinks area 7 is routable via the Multinet link to GORVAX, and GORVAX thinks area 7 is routed via the Multinet link to SG1, which thinks area 7 is adjacent via the Multinet link to GORVAX. There s a routing loop, which is always bad.
My Multinet link to area 59 is down, but LEGATO thinks area 59 is accessible thru CEIRE, which thinks that it s accessible thru A54RTR. The latter box apparently doesn t speak NML (or won t talk to me) so I can t ask it what s going on. Peter??? Are you out there?? Is area 59 up or down??? And what s A54RTR?
A similar thing is going on with area 52 (CEIRE -> A54RTR -> ???) although I don t have a Multinet link in this instance. Are there any machines in area 52 actually up?
SG1 does appear to bounce up and down fairly often. This is an old problem that was discussed but never really resolved. Since SG1 is an area routing node, having it bounce undoubtedly confuses things.
Bob
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
don t know if any of it means anything, but there are many odd things as observed from LEGATO.
LEGATO thinks area 7 is routable via the Multinet link to GORVAX, and GORVAX thinks area 7 is routed via the Multinet link to SG1, which thinks area 7 is adjacent via the Multinet link to GORVAX. There s a routing loop, which is always bad.
My Multinet link to area 59 is down, but LEGATO thinks area 59 is accessible thru CEIRE, which thinks that it s accessible thru A54RTR. The latter box apparently doesn t speak NML (or won t talk to me) so I can t ask it what s going on. Peter??? Are you out there?? Is area 59 up or down??? And what s A54RTR?
A similar thing is going on with area 52 (CEIRE -> A54RTR -> ???) although I don t have a Multinet link in this instance. Are there any machines in area 52 actually up?
SG1 does appear to bounce up and down fairly often. This is an old problem that was discussed but never really resolved. Since SG1 is an area routing node, having it bounce undoubtedly confuses things.
Bob
El 01/07/2012, a les 17:06, Bob Armstrong va escriure:
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote:
7.78 BITXT2 0 93 30 UNA-0 -> 7.6 MBSERV
30 hops??? That is impressive....
Yes. More if you know that BITXT2 is a KLH-10 machine running inside a VBox machine running in the same host as BITXOO (the node from which I executed the command).
To be honest, I have absolutely no clue about what's going on. At the same time the CPU usage of the host machine skyrocketed to 200% (100% of both cores). To add to the weidnesness, I run a java applications server (glassfish) there, and it was over 90% of CPU... when it should be idle.
I guess I need to do a preventive IPL of that machine.
Bob
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
El 01/07/2012, a les 16:55, Sampsa Laine va escriure:
Johnny,
I'm area 8 (have a bridge to you and multinet from gorvax to areas 19 and 2) - want me to bounce my side of the bridge?
Sampsa
On 1 Jul 2012, at 17:45, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2012-07-01 16:41, Johnny Billquist wrote:
No communication seems to work to area 7 from me, and looking at the
path, it would appear that from me to area 7 it is:
me -> SG1(19.41) -> GORVAX(8.400) -> area 7.
problem is...
FYI: Doing some more experimentation right now, and these entries might be off in my bridge config if someone tries to contact these areas.
This is really weird:
$ sh net
VAX/VMS Network status for local node 7.61 BITXOO on 1-JUL-2012 00:40:14.67
Area Cost Hops Next Hop to Area
1 10 3 UNA-0 -> 8.400 GORVAX
2 6 2 UNA-0 -> 8.400 GORVAX
3 6 2 UNA-0 -> 8.400 GORVAX
7 0 0 (Local) -> 7.61 BITXOO
8 3 1 UNA-0 -> 8.400 GORVAX
11 7 2 UNA-0 -> 8.400 GORVAX
19 6 2 UNA-0 -> 8.400 GORVAX
33 6 2 UNA-0 -> 8.400 GORVAX
52 32 6 UNA-0 -> 8.400 GORVAX
54 8 3 UNA-0 -> 8.400 GORVAX
59 22 5 UNA-0 -> 8.400 GORVAX
62 10 3 UNA-0 -> 8.400 GORVAX
Node Links Cost Hops Next Hop to Node
7.61 BITXOO 0 0 0 (Local) -> 7.61 BITXOO
7.6 MBSERV 0 3 1 UNA-0 -> 7.6 MBSERV
7.60 BITXOV 0 3 1 UNA-0 -> 7.60 BITXOV
7.71 BITXOR 0 3 1 UNA-0 -> 7.71 BITXOR
7.78 BITXT2 0 93 30 UNA-0 -> 7.6 MBSERV
7.80 BITXT1 0 3 1 UNA-0 -> 7.80 BITXT1
I'll recycle the bridge and tell you what happens then...
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
Johnny,
I'm area 8 (have a bridge to you and multinet from gorvax to areas 19 and 2) - want me to bounce my side of the bridge?
Sampsa
On 1 Jul 2012, at 17:45, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2012-07-01 16:41, Johnny Billquist wrote:
There seems to be some problem with the bridge to area 7 and 8, as
observed from my view.
I have the adjacency constantly going down and up. Looking at the status
of the areas, my next hop is constantly showing as SG1 (19.41).
Now, SG1 has a separate connection to area 8, and communication to area
8 works. I assume that is because this separate path.
No communication seems to work to area 7 from me, and looking at the
path, it would appear that from me to area 7 it is:
me -> SG1(19.41) -> GORVAX(8.400) -> area 7.
Which is weird, since area 7 is (as far as I know) only connected to
HECnet through the bridge. I know that area 7 used to work fine. Is it
working for anyone else? Also, is connections out from 7 working?
As for area 8, anyone have any ideas? I'm wondering if I should just
shut down those two links for now, until we've figured out what the
problem is...
FYI: Doing some more experimentation right now, and these entries might be off in my bridge config if someone tries to contact these areas.
Johnny
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Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
