On 07/02/2012 08:23 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
Who was your "sidekick"? I can't recall his name, but he's the one
across from you on the right of the exhibit space who ran the Straight
8 system and its relatives.
Oh, that was Dave Gesswein. His exhibit area was simply across the
aisle from mine. His Straight-8 was awesome.
It was time to move five years ago, but there are reasons... and more of them.
:-(
As for operating systems, can you, in your spare time present me a
list of them, off list?
Sure.
Some time ago, John Wilson, confirmed for me that his E11 systems can
be configured to accept modules that would look to the PDP-11 OS
running as if it were talking to something specialized, and not
originally part of the regular PDP-11 series of modules. (Of course
that's my phrasing and how I heard or read about.) That's how I would
start, but I'm not sure if his program could be told to work as if it
were a J11 setup or any of the others.
Hmm.
I believe it might be possible to convince (or confuse) E11 that it is
actually one of those, and running something along the lines of the
appropriate R* OS from DEC,
That might be possible. That might also be possible with simh, given
that the source code is available and it compiles on most anything.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 07/02/2012 08:10 AM, Mark Wickens wrote:
Does anyone run SIMH on Solaris? I've recently acquired a Sparcstation
5, and I guess it's the benchmark of a usable server-type platform for
me to be able to run SIMH on it.
I run it under Solaris on UltraSPARC-III+. Works great.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 07/02/2012 07:05 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
Software? Copies of everything that Al has on his bitsavers site.
Manuals certainly, stuff he created using those wonderful tools of
his. Hardware? Got me, I've got the SIMH stuff to emulate it, and
several examples of the E11 kit.
Ahh. I have lots of OS releases that aren't on bitsavers; contact me
if you're looking for something specific. (and, erm, not ancient)
But as for goals, I originally had an idea to have a PDP11, like your
11/53 there, respond to the strange stuff I build, along the lines of
(Adam) LINC-8 and the Straight that I saw at the same time we met and
your sidekick with his collection.
Indeed, that sounds like fun.
Who was my sidekick??
Ran out of space and time, for all of that. (I won't go into the
annoying problems of funding for my daft ideas.) Right now I'm in a
problematic NYC apartment that's short on space.
Time to move!
When the "embedded PDP-11" idea surfaced in the responses earlier
today I realized that some of my ideas seemed to be doable but the
"how and why" aspect surfaced......
Well "why" is easy:
- because I can
- because I want to
The "how" part is rather more difficult, but I suspect you won't have
much trouble.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hello!
Who was your "sidekick"? I can't recall his name, but he's the one
across from you on the right of the exhibit space who ran the Straight
8 system and its relatives.
It was time to move five years ago, but there are reasons... and more of them.
As for operating systems, can you, in your spare time present me a
list of them, off list?
Some time ago, John Wilson, confirmed for me that his E11 systems can
be configured to accept modules that would look to the PDP-11 OS
running as if it were talking to something specialized, and not
originally part of the regular PDP-11 series of modules. (Of course
that's my phrasing and how I heard or read about.) That's how I would
start, but I'm not sure if his program could be told to work as if it
were a J11 setup or any of the others.
I believe it might be possible to convince (or confuse) E11 that it is
actually one of those, and running something along the lines of the
appropriate R* OS from DEC,
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On 07/02/2012 07:05 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
Software? Copies of everything that Al has on his bitsavers site.
Manuals certainly, stuff he created using those wonderful tools of
his. Hardware? Got me, I've got the SIMH stuff to emulate it, and
several examples of the E11 kit.
Ahh. I have lots of OS releases that aren't on bitsavers; contact me
if you're looking for something specific. (and, erm, not ancient)
But as for goals, I originally had an idea to have a PDP11, like your
11/53 there, respond to the strange stuff I build, along the lines of
(Adam) LINC-8 and the Straight that I saw at the same time we met and
your sidekick with his collection.
Indeed, that sounds like fun.
Who was my sidekick??
Ran out of space and time, for all of that. (I won't go into the
annoying problems of funding for my daft ideas.) Right now I'm in a
problematic NYC apartment that's short on space.
Time to move!
When the "embedded PDP-11" idea surfaced in the responses earlier
today I realized that some of my ideas seemed to be doable but the
"how and why" aspect surfaced......
Well "why" is easy:
- because I can
- because I want to
The "how" part is rather more difficult, but I suspect you won't have
much trouble.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 07/02/2012 06:41 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
I'll say. That does sound like something I would want to try out....
Absolutely.
Now as to your equipment collection Dave, your 11/53 running in a
different suit, you are aware it can be flipped back to a 11/53?
Yes. I don't have a DECserver-550 myself, though. I do have a
"regular" 11/53.
I'm still trying to sort out my directions for hardware and software......
What are your goals, and what do you have?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Software? Copies of everything that Al has on his bitsavers site.
Manuals certainly, stuff he created using those wonderful tools of
his. Hardware? Got me, I've got the SIMH stuff to emulate it, and
several examples of the E11 kit.
But as for goals, I originally had an idea to have a PDP11, like your
11/53 there, respond to the strange stuff I build, along the lines of
(Adam) LINC-8 and the Straight that I saw at the same time we met and
your sidekick with his collection.
Ran out of space and time, for all of that. (I won't go into the
annoying problems of funding for my daft ideas.) Right now I'm in a
problematic NYC apartment that's short on space.
And what does _that_ have to do with our list, and even the network it
supports, I can hear Johnny say, the data it produced would be
available for everyone to examine, and the hardware would have
accepted responses from each member.
Soon I hope.
When the "embedded PDP-11" idea surfaced in the responses earlier
today I realized that some of my ideas seemed to be doable but the
"how and why" aspect surfaced......
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On 07/02/2012 06:41 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
I'll say. That does sound like something I would want to try out....
Absolutely.
Now as to your equipment collection Dave, your 11/53 running in a
different suit, you are aware it can be flipped back to a 11/53?
Yes. I don't have a DECserver-550 myself, though. I do have a
"regular" 11/53.
I'm still trying to sort out my directions for hardware and software......
What are your goals, and what do you have?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 07/02/2012 02:41 PM, Steve Davidson wrote:
MRRT-11 (Memory-Resident, RT-11) is what you are trying to think of.
You needed an RT-11 license for the load (and create) host, then
licenses for each MRRT-11 system. I used this when I was a DEC OEM for
a while.
Is this around anywhere? It sounds like lots of fun.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hello!
I'll say. That does sound like something I would want to try out....
Now as to your equipment collection Dave, your 11/53 running in a
different suit, you are aware it can be flipped back to a 11/53?
I'm still trying to sort out my directions for hardware and software......
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On 07/02/2012 02:41 PM, Steve Davidson wrote:
MRRT-11 (Memory-Resident, RT-11) is what you are trying to think of.
You needed an RT-11 license for the load (and create) host, then
licenses for each MRRT-11 system. I used this when I was a DEC OEM for
a while.
Is this around anywhere? It sounds like lots of fun.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 07/02/2012 10:58 AM, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Was that the RTOS used with the T-11 (the first single-chip PDP-11?)
I seem to remember that it was used as the RTOS in the LA-120 printer.
Did the LA120 have a T11 in it? Wow - makes me want to go take mine apart
and look :-)
I just picked up four more LA120s with some 11/84s and a bunch of
RA90s. (very happy!) I will check tonight if you don't look at yours
by then.
For example, the RFxx drives (all of 'em, I think) used a T11 and I'm
pretty sure ran some variant of RSX-11S.
Wow, I didn't know that, that's neat!
The HSC controllers had PDP-11s in them, didn't they? I don't remember
which model but I bet the OS was another RSX derivative.
The HSC50 uses an F11, the HSC70 and HSC9x use J11s.
Some of the bigger DECserver terminal servers were PDP-11 based (not T11,
but an 11/53 for example). Don't know if the little ones (e.g.
DECserver-100, 200, etc) were T11 or 68K based.
The -200 is 68K-based. I don't know about the -100. The -550 is the
one that's basically a PDP-11/53 with different EPROMs.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
