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by ahling＠eadc.se

Just to "point on the nitty gritty details" To my knowledge; M+ will run on 11/23+ but not upon 11/23 ! (22 bit adressing required). Please also give a thought which serial adapter that is required for terminal access. Old , traditional without buffers etc, or modern 8-port? One nice thing to include during sysgen would might be a TU58! - It connects to just about every system through one "regular" RS-232 port (properly adressed, though) There are fine PC-programs available emulating the old, true 1/4" tape hardware running over COM-port. This gives a path of transfering data "easilly" from SIMH to real HW until the network is up and running. I've heard that the "max block number" is never checed in the TU58 driver, so if the "tape" happens to be longer than an original tape doesn't matter! Happy experimenting! /G ran On 8 jul 2012 15:39 "Bob Armstrong" <bob at jfcl.com> wrote: Thanks, guys - I didn't know that M+ would run on a 11/23. I have kits for M+ v4.3 and DECnet11-M+ v4.3 so that's what I'll try. As I remember the 11/23+ is pretty slow (like half or 1/3rd the speed of a 11/73) and an RD32 is not a huge amount of space (40Mb, although that's probably plenty for RSX). Any hints for what I should or should not include in the SYSGEN? Johnny wrote: SYSGEN, NETGEN and everything in between is rather more cryptic in 11M, just to warn you... :-) I guess I'm making the right choice :-) FWIW, I've done M+ SYSGENs before (years and years ago) and I don't remember those being exceptionally user friendly! Never did DECnet on a 11, however. Actually I'd be tempted to use M because of the smaller footprint, but I don't have kits for that. I'll probably just build the system on simh and, if it works, I can transfer the RD32 image over to the real hardware. Bob

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Silly RSX questions....

by bob＠jfcl.com

Thanks, guys - I didn't know that M+ would run on a 11/23. I have kits for M+ v4.3 and DECnet11-M+ v4.3 so that's what I'll try. As I remember the 11/23+ is pretty slow (like half or 1/3rd the speed of a 11/73) and an RD32 is not a huge amount of space (40Mb, although that's probably plenty for RSX). Any hints for what I should or should not include in the SYSGEN? Johnny wrote: SYSGEN, NETGEN and everything in between is rather more cryptic in 11M, just to warn you... :-) I guess I'm making the right choice :-) FWIW, I've done M+ SYSGENs before (years and years ago) and I don't remember those being exceptionally user friendly! Never did DECnet on a 11, however. Actually I'd be tempted to use M because of the smaller footprint, but I don't have kits for that. I'll probably just build the system on simh and, if it works, I can transfer the RD32 image over to the real hardware. Bob

13 years

Silly RSX questions....

by jg＠jordi.guillaumes.name

As for the rest of the question, yes, 11M supports DECnet with DEQNA. SYSGEN, NETGEN and everything in between is rather more cryptic in 11M, just to warn you... :-) I've been able to generate successfully a 11M system, but I've not found any DECNET-11 kit for it... Johnny

13 years

Silly RSX questions....

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-07-08 05:28, Bob Armstrong wrote: I have a 11/23+ system with 2xRD32 disks and a DEQNA (as well as various peripherals RX50, RL02, RX02, Kennedy 9 track). RSX-11M+ needs I&D space so it can t run on a 11/23+, right? Does RSX-11M support DECnet and a DEQNA? FWIW, the system as 2048K of RAM quite a bit by 11/23 standards. I could look it up if I had the SPDs for DECnet-11, but I haven t seen those online and I figure there are lots of HECnet people who would know. Actually I have a KDJ11 (11/73) card and I could just swap the CPUs easily enough, but I kind of like the system the way it is. If it is possible to run DECnet on the 11/23+, my next trick will be to locate kits and figure out how to install it. Hi, Bob. Actually, RSX-11M-PLUS does not require I/D-space. It does, however, require 22-bit addressing. The 11/23+, as well as the 11/24 are supported by M+. But some things get rather tight without I/D-space. But it should work. As for the rest of the question, yes, 11M supports DECnet with DEQNA. SYSGEN, NETGEN and everything in between is rather more cryptic in 11M, just to warn you... :-) Johnny

13 years

Silly RSX questions....

by form＠pdp-11.org.ru

Bob Armstrong wrote: I have a 11/23+ system with 2xRD32 disks and a DEQNA (as well as various peripherals RX50, RL02, RX02, Kennedy 9 track). RSX-11M+ needs I&D space so it can t run on a 11/23+, right? Does RSX-11M support DECnet and a DEQNA? FWIW, the system as 2048K of RAM quite a M+ SYSGEN: >; RSX-11M-PLUS may be run on the following PDP-11 processors: >; >; 11/23-PLUS (also called MicroPDP-11/23 and 11/23-B) >; 11/24 >; 11/44 >; 11/53 >; 11/70 >; 11/73 (also called MicroPDP-11/73) >; 11/83 (also called MicroPDP-11/83) >; 11/93 (also called MicroPDP-11/93) >; 11/84 >; 11/94 >; >; M70,80,90,100 MENTEC modules (treated as an 11/83) >; M11 processor (MENTEC) >; >; LSI-11/73 RSX-11M supports DECnet and DEQNA.

13 years

Silly RSX questions....

by bob＠jfcl.com

I have a 11/23+ system with 2xRD32 disks and a DEQNA (as well as various peripherals RX50, RL02, RX02, Kennedy 9 track). RSX-11M+ needs I&D space so it can t run on a 11/23+, right? Does RSX-11M support DECnet and a DEQNA? FWIW, the system as 2048K of RAM quite a bit by 11/23 standards. I could look it up if I had the SPDs for DECnet-11, but I haven t seen those online and I figure there are lots of HECnet people who would know. Actually I have a KDJ11 (11/73) card and I could just swap the CPUs easily enough, but I kind of like the system the way it is. If it is possible to run DECnet on the 11/23+, my next trick will be to locate kits and figure out how to install it. Bob

13 years

Problem: I can't recall the website for the US based users group for VMS

by marc＠bluevine.net

http://www.openvmshobbyist.com/licenses.php The place to get licenses has moved to HP and is now at http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist --Marc

13 years

DECnet MAIL

by marc＠bluevine.net

Sorry for stupid question, but i can't understand why i get the "error activating transport SMTP" message when i try to send a mail to some host in HECnet, using DECnet MAIL utility and address in HOST::USER format? You're probably getting that message from the remote system. The USER on that system may have their mail forwarded to SMTP%"x at y" and it's not working properly there. --Marc

13 years

Problem: I can't recall the website for the US based users group for VMS

by dibi58＠gmail.com

here, this is the manual, the ip or phones are probably obsolete, but this is the address: telnet decuserve.org and http://www.openvmshobbyist.com/licenses.php cheers ;-) On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: Hello! Problem, this computer suffered an attack of typical Microsoft issues regarding its OS and required an installation of itself back about a month earlier. I ended up loosing my bookmarks. One of them was for the US based offices for the users group for VMS. As I recall and en examination of the form used to create the licensing string for VMS it requires that name. It also needs the member number from the group. I recall creating one for a kit that Sampsa has someplace last year, but I never managed to launch the Alpha emulator on any of the approved operating systems for it. Now I'm ready to try again with the VMS kit I have here someplace (it presupposes that I can find it, but I do know that the image can be downloaded...) and running on the SIMH Vax setup using the instructions on the site that the SIMH one is linked to. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

13 years

Problem: I can't recall the website for the US based users group for VMS

by uusimaki＠exdecfinland.org

On 6.7.2012 5:56, Gregg Levine wrote: Hello! Problem, this computer suffered an attack of typical Microsoft issues regarding its OS and required an installation of itself back about a month earlier. I ended up loosing my bookmarks. One of them was for the US based offices for the users group for VMS. As I recall and en examination of the form used to create the licensing string for VMS it requires that name. It also needs the member number from the group. I recall creating one for a kit that Sampsa has someplace last year, but I never managed to launch the Alpha emulator on any of the approved operating systems for it. Now I'm ready to try again with the VMS kit I have here someplace (it presupposes that I can find it, but I do know that the image can be downloaded...) and running on the SIMH Vax setup using the instructions on the site that the SIMH one is linked to. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." . Do you mean Encompass? Kari

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