My bridge link isn't working..
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On 25 Sep 2013, at 14:42, Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at Update.UU.SE> wrote:
Hi
As you may or may not have noticed, we had a power outage so MIM and
DECnet bridge went down for a while.
Everything _should_ be back to normal now or soon.
/P
Hi
As you may or may not have noticed, we had a power outage so MIM and
DECnet bridge went down for a while.
Everything _should_ be back to normal now or soon.
/P
Did any of you guys get a lot of logins from CHIMPY yesterday?
Looks like somebody was signed into the LAUNCH account for 7+ hours..
24-SEP-2013 18:53:47.95 LOGIN REMOTE CHIMPY LAUNCH 0003273A Host: host86-138-13-111.range
25-SEP-2013 02:37:41.49 LOGOUT REMOTE CHIMPY LAUNCH 0003273A Host: host86-138-13-111.range
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
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Of course I am more worried about the non-DEC stuff which could be 'pwned' using a VMS or Ultrix system as a beachhead.
That's my concern as well, I really don't want to put my HECnet stuff on a separate VLAN, right now it's on my internal network with all my other stuff.
Is it posible to deny an user access to the IP stack (either UCX or multinet)? If so, I would setup my guest accounts to 'decnet only' access.
I'd like to do this as well - if the user has no access to IP, I'd be happier to let pretty much anyone in.
sampsa
El 25/09/2013, a les 2:29, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> va escriure:
On 25 Sep 2013, at 02:25, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Since it seems the general public are having a hard time keeping such resources available, and it would seem that there are some here who are pretty good at it (or so I'd like to believe), maybe getting more users and usage could be a cool thing. But it might be a negative thing as well, so I'm not going to pursue this anymore right now.
Johnny
I'm always happy to take more users onto CHIMPY and the HILANT clusters - you think I should let people in comp.os.vms know about these?
Does anybody mind 'outsiders' getting access to HECnet?
It depends on the "outsider". If it's the cool dudes that want to learn, more power to 'em. I'll offer up resources. But if it's the malicious ones...bleh.
This is what I'm concerned about, I don't want a full-scale migration of hackers and black hats from Deathrow suddenly on my systems or on HECnet.
We run a pretty open shop since there's a level of trust between the participants...
This.
I have implemented just basic security at my network and to be honest I feel extremely lazy at the thought of hardening it.
Of course I am more worried about the non-DEC stuff which could be 'pwned' using a VMS or Ultrix system as a beachhead.
Is it posible to deny an user access to the IP stack (either UCX or multinet)? If so, I would setup my guest accounts to 'decnet only' access.
sampsa
I'm always happy to take more users onto CHIMPY and the HILANT clusters - you think I should let people in comp.os.vms know about these?
Does anybody mind 'outsiders' getting access to HECnet?
I don't mind. Most will probably not explore the fact that there is a big DECnet behind the machines.
It is not that we are preventing people today either. It's just that there have never been much fuss about HECnet.
However, I can understand if some people feel worried about traffic and issues. If so, let us know, and we'll try to think of what to do.
This is why I manually vet the account requests - if the email address or name seem totally bullshit, I just ignore the request.
I get maybe 2-3 new users per week on each system..I personally don't want to let the Deathrow guys behind my firewall :)
sampsa
On 2013-09-25 02:20, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Since it seems the general public are having a hard time keeping such resources available, and it would seem that there are some here who are pretty good at it (or so I'd like to believe), maybe getting more users and usage could be a cool thing. But it might be a negative thing as well, so I'm not going to pursue this anymore right now.
Johnny
I'm always happy to take more users onto CHIMPY and the HILANT clusters - you think I should let people in comp.os.vms know about these?
Does anybody mind 'outsiders' getting access to HECnet?
I don't mind. Most will probably not explore the fact that there is a big DECnet behind the machines.
It is not that we are preventing people today either. It's just that there have never been much fuss about HECnet.
However, I can understand if some people feel worried about traffic and issues. If so, let us know, and we'll try to think of what to do.
Johnny
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On 25 Sep 2013, at 02:25, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Since it seems the general public are having a hard time keeping such resources available, and it would seem that there are some here who are pretty good at it (or so I'd like to believe), maybe getting more users and usage could be a cool thing. But it might be a negative thing as well, so I'm not going to pursue this anymore right now.
Johnny
I'm always happy to take more users onto CHIMPY and the HILANT clusters - you think I should let people in comp.os.vms know about these?
Does anybody mind 'outsiders' getting access to HECnet?
It depends on the "outsider". If it's the cool dudes that want to learn, more power to 'em. I'll offer up resources. But if it's the malicious ones...bleh.
This is what I'm concerned about, I don't want a full-scale migration of hackers and black hats from Deathrow suddenly on my systems or on HECnet.
We run a pretty open shop since there's a level of trust between the participants...
sampsa
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Since it seems the general public are having a hard time keeping such resources available, and it would seem that there are some here who are pretty good at it (or so I'd like to believe), maybe getting more users and usage could be a cool thing. But it might be a negative thing as well, so I'm not going to pursue this anymore right now.
Johnny
I'm always happy to take more users onto CHIMPY and the HILANT clusters - you think I should let people in comp.os.vms know about these?
Does anybody mind 'outsiders' getting access to HECnet?
It depends on the "outsider". If it's the cool dudes that want to learn, more power to 'em. I'll offer up resources. But if it's the malicious ones...bleh.
sampsa
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Since it seems the general public are having a hard time keeping such resources available, and it would seem that there are some here who are pretty good at it (or so I'd like to believe), maybe getting more users and usage could be a cool thing. But it might be a negative thing as well, so I'm not going to pursue this anymore right now.
Johnny
I'm always happy to take more users onto CHIMPY and the HILANT clusters - you think I should let people in comp.os.vms know about these?
Does anybody mind 'outsiders' getting access to HECnet?
sampsa
