On 10/02/2013 05:10 PM, Gregg Levine wrote:
It is available on Slackware. I sometimes use it when circumstances
demand I use an editor with strangeness written into it. It is
available for the Debian Port on the Pi.
It's available packaged pretty much everywhere, but building it from
source borders on the trivial. It builds on most every reasonable
platform out there, and some that aren't so reasonable. This has been
the case for decades.
As for a mode which enables the same editing functions as the editors
for the PDP-11 and probably the PDP-10 systems.... Interesting.
Enabling it sounds interesting. I shall try that one next.
Well...emacs *originated* on the PDP-10 systems..
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
On 2 Oct 2013, at 22:51, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/02/2013 03:18 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Emacs has too high of a learning curve for me...with vi I prefer
vim.
Emacs has an OBSCENE learning curve. But if you give it the time
that it takes, it will reward you for the rest of your life.
I full agree with that sentiment, I can use Emacs to a basic degree
(I don't progam in elisp or anything) and it is a very effective
editor.
Shame it doesn't come as standard on all *nix boxes, I have to revert
to vi (UNIX) or nano/pico (most Linux distros)
Emacs builds on most everything, and is packaged for most (all?) Linux
distributions.
Quite often I'm on a client server which won't let me install anything
outside the formal spec, never mind compile it. Usually the servers
don't even HAVE a C compiler installed.
So then it's traumatizing trip back to vi-land..
Hello!
It is available on Slackware. I sometimes use it when circumstances
demand I use an editor with strangeness written into it. It is
available for the Debian Port on the Pi.
As for a mode which enables the same editing functions as the editors
for the PDP-11 and probably the PDP-10 systems.... Interesting.
Enabling it sounds interesting. I shall try that one next.
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"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/02/2013 03:18 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Emacs has too high of a learning curve for me...with vi I prefer
vim.
Emacs has an OBSCENE learning curve. But if you give it the time
that it takes, it will reward you for the rest of your life.
I full agree with that sentiment, I can use Emacs to a basic degree
(I don't progam in elisp or anything) and it is a very effective
editor.
Shame it doesn't come as standard on all *nix boxes, I have to revert
to vi (UNIX) or nano/pico (most Linux distros)
Emacs builds on most everything, and is packaged for most (all?) Linux
distributions.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Depends...
Issue a "SHOW DEVICE" at the dead sargent and post the output.
Well...this could explain a bit: I was burning at 24x and throwing those discs at a 12x drive.
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http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On 10/02/2013 04:52 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I will, as the cool kids say, "hook you up". Any progress on
arranging for a van to show up here mid-month?
No, sorry. Not yet.
Ok. Just keep me posted.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/02/2013 03:23 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I ran it very briefly between a MicroVAX-II and a VAXstation-2000 a
long time ago, just to play with it. It was neat when I got it
working,
but then it dawned on me that it really wasn't any different from
running it over TCP/IP. ;)
Meaning it works for a few minutes and then breaks completely? ;)
Not at all. I've run X since X10R4 (yes, X *TEN* release four), and
have never seen it actually break. What are you up to? ;)
Trying to use it on a PeeCee. ;)
Oh good heavens. Life's too short, man.
I need to GET workstations first! ;)
I will, as the cool kids say, "hook you up". Any progress on
arranging for a van to show up here mid-month?
-Dave
No, sorry. Not yet.
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Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On 10/02/2013 03:18 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Emacs has too high of a learning curve for me...with vi I prefer
vim.
Emacs has an OBSCENE learning curve. But if you give it the time
that it takes, it will reward you for the rest of your life.
I full agree with that sentiment, I can use Emacs to a basic degree
(I don't progam in elisp or anything) and it is a very effective
editor.
Shame it doesn't come as standard on all *nix boxes, I have to revert
to vi (UNIX) or nano/pico (most Linux distros)
Emacs builds on most everything, and is packaged for most (all?) Linux
distributions.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 10/02/2013 03:23 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
I ran it very briefly between a MicroVAX-II and a VAXstation-2000 a
long time ago, just to play with it. It was neat when I got it
working,
but then it dawned on me that it really wasn't any different from
running it over TCP/IP. ;)
Meaning it works for a few minutes and then breaks completely? ;)
Not at all. I've run X since X10R4 (yes, X *TEN* release four), and
have never seen it actually break. What are you up to? ;)
Trying to use it on a PeeCee. ;)
Oh good heavens. Life's too short, man.
I need to GET workstations first! ;)
I will, as the cool kids say, "hook you up". Any progress on
arranging for a van to show up here mid-month?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
On 2.10.2013 23:27, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
On 2.10.2013 23:11, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Hello,
I finally managed yo get a console working on this...so I want to get it
on to HECnet again
However when booting from CD-ROM: %SYSBOOT-E-System version mismatch
found EXEC_INIT.EXE
What am I forgetting to do?
It would be much easier to diagnose if you would describe how you are
doing
the boot, with which parameters and in which phase you get the error
message.
Even better to post the whole booting session output from your console.
Simply: boot dka300 (DKA300 is the CD-ROM)
It does this shortly after loading the boot images. 7.2 gets
further...but it BUGCHKs before entering BACKUP.
Are you sure you have the SCSI bus intact and terminated accordingly?
And your installation media (CD-ROM) is known to be working?
It may not be terminated correctly. I can try setting the TERM jumper on the CD-ROM drive itself.
Kari
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Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Kari Uusim=E4ki wrote:=0D
=0D
On 2.10.2013 23:11, Cory Smelosky wrote:=0D
Hello,=0D
=0D
I finally managed yo get a console working on this...so I want to get it=
=0D
on to HECnet again=0D
=0D
However when booting from CD-ROM: %SYSBOOT-E-System version mismatch=0D
found EXEC_INIT.EXE=0D
=0D
What am I forgetting to do?=0D
=0D
=0D
It would be much easier to diagnose if you would describe how you are doi=
ng =0D
the boot, with which parameters and in which phase you get the error mess=
age.=0D
Even better to post the whole booting session output from your console.=
=0D
=0D
=0D
Simply: boot dka300 (DKA300 is the CD-ROM)=0D
=0D
It does this shortly after loading the boot images. 7.2 gets =0D
further...but it BUGCHKs before entering BACKUP.=0D
Are these OPenVMS installation disks you burned yourself? Are you trying
to read these with an RD45 or earlier?
I burned them myself, yes. The drive shows up as "RDDISK"...it's not an official RRD40/RRD45.
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http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
