On 2013-10-08 15:12, Tim Sneddon wrote:
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
On 2013-10-08 01:03, Sampsa Laine wrote:
What would be the correct security settings for a directory that:
- Allows anyone to add a file
- Anyone can read any file
- Nobody can delete, edit or replace existing files.
Thinking of setting this up on CHIMPY for people to store nifty
stuff they find.
I read through the discussion, but didn't see any attempt at an
analysis of this, so I'll try to make some comments here.
Huh? I provided commands and all to do what was asked.
*Analysis*
Johnny
Yeah, I'd hook up a terminal first, set ATS0=1 (autoanswer) and then store the defaults in the modem's NVRAM. That way the modem just raises the DCD line when a connection has been made.
As far as I know VMS doesn't really speak Hayes AT.
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On 8 Oct 2013, at 15:10, Daniel Soderstrom <snaggs at mac.com> wrote:
I have a brand new US Robotics HST and Telebit Trailblazer I saved from the day. If I wack one on the serial point of a VAX can it take calls? :)
Sent from my iPhone
On 8 Oct 2013, at 8:35 pm, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, that's the way to go. I'm tempted to buy an ancient Nokia GSM phone, get a data number for it and a serial adapter, and plug it into my DS300..9600 bps dial up access, woo hoo!
I kinda still enjoy dial up... are there any active modems on 'the net'? Sampsa, you and I tried this once, a long time back... not sure if we ever connected, but I didn't have POTS at the time...
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2013-10-08 01:03, Sampsa Laine wrote:
What would be the correct security settings for a directory that:
- Allows anyone to add a file
- Anyone can read any file
- Nobody can delete, edit or replace existing files.
Thinking of setting this up on CHIMPY for people to store nifty stuff they find.
I read through the discussion, but didn't see any attempt at an analysis of this, so I'll try to make some comments here.
Huh? I provided commands and all to do what was asked.
Regards, Tim.
I have a brand new US Robotics HST and Telebit Trailblazer I saved from the day. If I wack one on the serial point of a VAX can it take calls? :)
Sent from my iPhone
On 8 Oct 2013, at 8:35 pm, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, that's the way to go. I'm tempted to buy an ancient Nokia GSM phone, get a data number for it and a serial adapter, and plug it into my DS300..9600 bps dial up access, woo hoo!
I kinda still enjoy dial up... are there any active modems on 'the net'? Sampsa, you and I tried this once, a long time back... not sure if we ever connected, but I didn't have POTS at the time...
On 2013-10-05 10:16, Daniel Soderstrom wrote:
I've having trouble setting up UCX and emailed a screenshot but nothing came through like it usually does.
There is a size limit of mails on hecnet, which probably prevented you. Send a link instead, and put the image somewhere else...
Johnny
On 8 Oct 2013, at 14:52, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
The second part of this is actually making the files visible in the specific library. For this users need write access to the directory (and possibly extend access). In order to find the files, you need read access. For removing files from a directory, you need write access to the directory.
So obviously, you either allow both entering and removing, or neither.
That's what I ended up doing, I trust there aren't too many griefers on HECnet that'll go and delete random files.
But seriously, if you find something cool or want to post an image of yourself, send it to CHIMPY:[.DROPBOX]. I've got a few alpha EXEs up there and a couple of pics of myself in SIXEL and JPEG formats..
sampsa
On 2013-10-08 01:03, Sampsa Laine wrote:
What would be the correct security settings for a directory that:
- Allows anyone to add a file
- Anyone can read any file
- Nobody can delete, edit or replace existing files.
Thinking of setting this up on CHIMPY for people to store nifty stuff they find.
I read through the discussion, but didn't see any attempt at an analysis of this, so I'll try to make some comments here.
In comparison to Unix, protections in VMS (and RSX) work a little different.
Anyone can always create a file on a volume, unless the volume ownership and protection generally prevents you. File in VMS and RSX do not need to exist in any directory.
Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> writes:
On 08/10/2013 12:15, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> writes:
On 08/10/2013 11:33, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote:
Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> writes:
Just wondered if anyone would know why my Alpha when booting hangs at
the point where it attempting to determine whether to join or form a VMS
cluster? It is clustered with a VAX - if I boot the VAX first the VAX
creates a cluster which the Alpha will then happily join when turned on,
but if I power the Alpha without the VAX it just hangs.
Both are running an install straight from an original VMS 6.1
installation disk.
Just 2 nodes?
What's your quorum configuration?
Post:
$ MCR SYSGEN SHOW VOTES
$ MCR SYSGEN SHOW EXPECTED_VOTES
..from each node.
I think you, sir, may have found the issue:
On RIPLEY (the Alpha):
$ mcr sysgen show votes
Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic
-------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ----
-------
VOTES 1 1 0 127 Votes
$ mcr sysgen show expected votes
Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic
-------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ----
-------
EXPECTED_VOTES 2 1 1 127 Votes
On DALLAS (the VAX):
$ mcr sysgen show votes
Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic
-------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ----
-------
VOTES 1 1 0 127 Votes
$ mcr sysgen show expected votes
Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic
-------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ----
-------
EXPECTED_VOTES 1 1 1 127 Votes
OK. First, 2 node clusters can be problematic due to not realy having the
necessary number of node to properly form a cluster. The minimum is three
nodes to form a cluster.
However, let's look at what you said.
You said that the VAX boots and forms a cluster. It has one vote and the
expected votes is one. Therefore, when you boot it, it sees the necessary
number of votes to continue booting and form a cluster.
You also said that Alpha boots and hangs trying to form a cluster. It too
has one vote but its expected votes is two. Therefore, until the VAX has
booted, the number of votes is not present and the Alpha will hang.
If you lower expected votes, the Alpha wil boot just like the VAX does. I
would caution you read the VMS documentation regarding clusters and how to
determine quorum. You risk, in the configuration of two nodes where each
has one vote and expected votes of one, partitioning the cluster resulting
in data corruption.
Thanks for the reminder of these issues. To be honest my experience with
clustering is limited and generally specific to satellite based
configurations. In this case I may make the VAX a satellite of the Alpha
with the local disk acting as page/swap.
Am I right in thinking then that the relationship changes somewhat in
that the Alpha will always need to be up but the VAX can come and go as
it pleases (with the correct shutdown sequence)?
All nodes: EXPECTED_VOTES = 1
Alpha: VOTES = 1
VAX/satellites: VOTES = 0
The VAX and any satellites can come and go. You may see some delay on
the Alpha as these transitions occur.
--
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Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
Oh it's not installed yet, I'm not in Finland at the moment.
Need to get the phone and the circuit switched data number (I HOPE operators still do them)..
Then if you have a similar phone and dont mind the costs, you can bundle upto 4 channels into one 56 kbps V.110 channel...
sampsa <sampsa at mac.com>
mobile +358 40 7208932
On 8 Oct 2013, at 14:44, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
Great!
I'll give it a whirl when I get outta work this evening (assuming time permits!).
I'll dial out with my Commodore 64 :)
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
On 08/10/2013 13:35, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Yeah, that's the way to go. I'm tempted to buy an ancient Nokia GSM phone, get a data number for it and a serial adapter, and plug it into my DS300..9600 bps dial up access, woo hoo!
I kinda still enjoy dial up... are there any active modems on 'the net'? Sampsa, you and I tried this once, a long time back... not sure if we ever connected, but I didn't have POTS at the time...
You can try SLAVE which is connected via a dial up. Not tried it in a while but it should still work OK.
+44 15394 22404
Regards, Mark.
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Great!
I'll give it a whirl when I get outta work this evening (assuming time permits!).
I'll dial out with my Commodore 64 :)
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
On 08/10/2013 13:35, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Yeah, that's the way to go. I'm tempted to buy an ancient Nokia GSM phone, get a data number for it and a serial adapter, and plug it into my DS300..9600 bps dial up access, woo hoo!
I kinda still enjoy dial up... are there any active modems on 'the net'? Sampsa, you and I tried this once, a long time back... not sure if we ever connected, but I didn't have POTS at the time...
You can try SLAVE which is connected via a dial up. Not tried it in a while but it should still work OK.
+44 15394 22404
Regards, Mark.
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