On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
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On 8 Oct 2013, at 17:17, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
So if I install this thing (it'll cost me about 15 euros a month) how much use do you think I'll get (i.e. how many inbound calls).
Very little as I don't have international dialing enabled...anywhere :(
It would still be pretty cool, 15 euros is not the end of the world really, and some people on the list were like "I'm calling it tonight" - of course the system isn't built yet..
The system could also serve as a convenient launch pad at various vintage computer events.
sampsa
I suppose if I do some hackery with iaxmodem, reconfigure my PBX, and do crazy crap there at low baud rates I could handle it. I hope you can automatically bring a line up at 1200 baud. ;)
I need more raspberry pis to use as iaxmodems.
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On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Mark Wickens wrote:
On 08/10/2013 16:17, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/08/2013 11:10 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Last night I was basking in the glow of an orange VT320 as I used that
and a DECserver to get around HECNET.
AFAIR Johnny's bridge is capable of forwarding LAT so I can see a load
of services on the DECSERVER if I type SHOW SERVICE.
Orange VT320? Mine is green. Neat!
Amber. Green VT320s are fairly uncommon. They were also available
with white phosphor.
-Dave
I have an amber and a green one, but the green one has developed an NVRAM fault which means it must be configured each time on startup. It's also got a little bit of the shakes...
I just need to adjust the height and width on my VT320. Otherwise it seems fine aside from needing to constantly be on max brightness. That's not exactly a surprise though. It's kept in a room that's easily darkened so that's no problem at all.
Tonight I bring the 21" monitor in from the garage, where it has sat for a couple of years, and see if it still works. Of course I'll be leaving it overnight before switching it on.
Regards, Mark.
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On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/08/2013 11:10 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Last night I was basking in the glow of an orange VT320 as I used that
and a DECserver to get around HECNET.
AFAIR Johnny's bridge is capable of forwarding LAT so I can see a load
of services on the DECSERVER if I type SHOW SERVICE.
Orange VT320? Mine is green. Neat!
Amber. Green VT320s are fairly uncommon. They were also available
with white phosphor.
Ahhh. Being colourblind causes some problems sometimes but I generally work around it.
White phospor would be interesting for sure. I wonder what the persistence is like. I love the persistence on my VT320.
-Dave
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On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/08/2013 08:40 AM, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Heh... this is obviously the way we did it in UNIX decades ago... I
always complained about trying to use UNIX for the very thing it
seemingly opposed (strict user controls) ...
... and we still do this; I can't keep users out of the OS an in the
app... argh...
I keep users out of OSs just fine. Need a consultant? ;)
Your solution involved pulling power cords, right? That's te best way to keep those pesky users out. ;)
-Dave
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On 8 Oct 2013, at 17:17, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
So if I install this thing (it'll cost me about 15 euros a month) how much use do you think I'll get (i.e. how many inbound calls).
Very little as I don't have international dialing enabled...anywhere :(
It would still be pretty cool, 15 euros is not the end of the world really, and some people on the list were like "I'm calling it tonight" - of course the system isn't built yet..
The system could also serve as a convenient launch pad at various vintage computer events.
sampsa
On 08/10/2013 16:17, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 10/08/2013 11:10 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Last night I was basking in the glow of an orange VT320 as I used that
and a DECserver to get around HECNET.
AFAIR Johnny's bridge is capable of forwarding LAT so I can see a load
of services on the DECSERVER if I type SHOW SERVICE.
Orange VT320? Mine is green. Neat!
Amber. Green VT320s are fairly uncommon. They were also available
with white phosphor.
-Dave
I have an amber and a green one, but the green one has developed an NVRAM fault which means it must be configured each time on startup. It's also got a little bit of the shakes...
Tonight I bring the 21" monitor in from the garage, where it has sat for a couple of years, and see if it still works. Of course I'll be leaving it overnight before switching it on.
Regards, Mark.
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On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2013-10-08 15:25, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Uh... Why would it? There is no difference between a modem and a terminal here. They both come in to the machine over a serial line, and then VMS expects you to log in.
Yes, the modem should be set up correctly, and then it's just a piece of equipment in the communication path, which is totally transparent.
The wiggling of the DCD is how a modem (or terminal) tell the computer that it is connected.
Would you expect VMS to spew out hayes commands when you connect a terminal?
No, this is why I advice to set the modem up with sane defaults before hooking it up :)
But some UNIX getty's DO speak Hayes AT so it's not that far-fetched an idea..
So, how do the Unix getty know that there is a hayes modem on the serial line, and not a terminal?
Configuration in inittab.
Johnny
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On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote:
So if I install this thing (it'll cost me about 15 euros a month) how much use do you think I'll get (i.e. how many inbound calls).
Very little as I don't have international dialing enabled...anywhere :(
Mark, this would be a great demo at various vintage events, ISDN over GSM talking to a DECserver that connects to a VAXcluster :)
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On 8 Oct 2013, at 14:44, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
Great!
I'll give it a whirl when I get outta work this evening (assuming time permits!).
I'll dial out with my Commodore 64 :)
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
On 08/10/2013 13:35, Joe Ferraro wrote:
Yeah, that's the way to go. I'm tempted to buy an ancient Nokia GSM phone, get a data number for it and a serial adapter, and plug it into my DS300..9600 bps dial up access, woo hoo!
I kinda still enjoy dial up... are there any active modems on 'the net'? Sampsa, you and I tried this once, a long time back... not sure if we ever connected, but I didn't have POTS at the time...
You can try SLAVE which is connected via a dial up. Not tried it in a while but it should still work OK.
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Regards, Mark.
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On 10/08/2013 11:10 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Last night I was basking in the glow of an orange VT320 as I used that
and a DECserver to get around HECNET.
AFAIR Johnny's bridge is capable of forwarding LAT so I can see a load
of services on the DECSERVER if I type SHOW SERVICE.
Orange VT320? Mine is green. Neat!
Amber. Green VT320s are fairly uncommon. They were also available
with white phosphor.
-Dave
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I have the following files:
$ TYPE SYS$STARTUP:MODEM$STARTUP.COM
$! MODEM$STARTUP.COM
$!
$! Setup the Hayes Accura V.92 Bis External Modem
$! for use as a dial-in service.
$! Modem is connected to the second built-in serial
$! port on the AlphaServer 1000A.
$!
$! Edit history:
$! 22-JAN-2011 13:26 M. Wickens 002 Use KERMIT
$! 22-JAN-2011 12:14 M. Wickens 001 Initial version
$!
$ SET TERMINAL /PERMANENT/MODEM/DIALUP/HANGUP/SPEED=(57600,57600) -
/ALTYPEAHD/HOSTSYNC TTA0:
$ SET SECURITY /PROTECTION=W:R /CLASS=DEVICE TTA0:
$!
$! Use KERMIT to configure the modem
$!
$ KERMIT == "$APPS$:[TOOLS.ALPHA_IMAGES]KERMIT.EXE"
$!
$ KERMIT SYS$STARTUP:MODEM$STARTUP.KER
$!
$ EXIT
SLAVE$$ type modem$startup.ker
SET LINE TTA0:
IF FAIL EXIT 1 "TTA0: not available"
SET SPEED 57600
SET CARRIER-WATCH OFF
LINEOUT "AT&F0Q1E1S0=1S37=9&K4&D2&S1\N3%C3&W"
EXIT
SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR]SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM;39
$! 22-JAN-2011 12:22 M. Wickens 001 Include MODEM startup
$ SUBMIT/LOG/NOTIFY/NOPRINT/QUEUE=SYS$INIT_'NODE' SYS$STARTUP:MODEM$STARTUP.COM
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