On 25 Dec 2012, at 19:00, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 26 Dec 2012, at 01:59, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
sampsa at mac.com writes:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 23:19, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
How cheaply could I get one though?
If you have a Windows VM, PersonalAlpha and FreeAXP are free...
Gack! WEENDOZE... Run Emu/VM AlphaVM-free on Linux!
I usually do, I however have access to a friend's windows server that has VMS installed on disk images. ;)
I'm a lazy man and it works just fine :)
Machine's been up for months without problems.
Sampsa
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Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
On 26 Dec 2012, at 01:59, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
sampsa at mac.com writes:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 23:19, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
How cheaply could I get one though?
If you have a Windows VM, PersonalAlpha and FreeAXP are free...
Gack! WEENDOZE... Run Emu/VM AlphaVM-free on Linux!
I'm a lazy man and it works just fine :)
Machine's been up for months without problems.
Sampsa
sampsa at mac.com writes:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 23:19, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
How cheaply could I get one though?
If you have a Windows VM, PersonalAlpha and FreeAXP are free...
Gack! WEENDOZE... Run Emu/VM AlphaVM-free on Linux!
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On 25 Dec 2012, at 15:21, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 12/25/2012 03:07 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: >>>> Ah. Is any sort of
encryption done for cluster-over-IP? >>>=20 >>> Oh heck no. That sort
of overhead's resultant latency would destroy >>> the performance of a
cluster on all but the very fastest of = machines. >>=20 >> Ah, right,
I'm forgetting that clustering sends a lot of data. >=20 > Yes, and
it's all pretty latency-sensitive.
Now I want to set up a cluster and intentionally crash it just to see =
how exactly it all falls over.
Falls or fails? Neither.
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VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
On 25 Dec 2012, at 18:50, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
Connect to SG1:: on the East Coast as the primary, LEGATO:: on the West
Coast as the secondary.
What are the IPs for those? I'll connect a random node on another friend's server while i'm at it (extranet.wilcox-tech.com is the host for it. It's static)
That doesn't need it's own area though, can I piggyback off someone else's? ;)
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 2:06 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] Getting a virtual cluster connected
Hello everyone!
I've decided to bring up the random virtual cluster I was running on a
friend's server, and I want to get it connected to HECnet. ;)
The IP is static so connecting it should be easier, the server is in
North Carolina. It's looking like i'll need to go install multinet on
one of the cluster members as that'll be easier than bringing up a linux
VM to run Johnny''s bridge. ;)
What areas are available? I'll go renumber to one of the free
areas...once I either remember or reset the SYSTEM password.
Thanks.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
Connect to SG1:: on the East Coast as the primary, LEGATO:: on the West
Coast as the secondary.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 2:06 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] Getting a virtual cluster connected
Hello everyone!
I've decided to bring up the random virtual cluster I was running on a
friend's server, and I want to get it connected to HECnet. ;)
The IP is static so connecting it should be easier, the server is in
North Carolina. It's looking like i'll need to go install multinet on
one of the cluster members as that'll be easier than bringing up a linux
VM to run Johnny''s bridge. ;)
What areas are available? I'll go renumber to one of the free
areas...once I either remember or reset the SYSTEM password.
Thanks.
How is this:
http://rhesus.sampsa.com/cgi-bin/hecnetinfo/hecnetinfo.com?q=vax780
Will that work?
Regards
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of sampsa at mac.com
Sent: 25 December 2012 22:53
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] HECnet mapping project
Well, I think we should leave the format alone and just add LAT= and LONG=
to the location field.
It's not hard to parse :)
Sampsa
On 26 Dec 2012, at 00:50, Rob Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote:
I think LAT/LONG is unambiguous and also gives you the opportunity to
be more precise if you want to. We can keep "location" as a more
informal description though.
Regards
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Bob Armstrong
Sent: 25 December 2012 22:25
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: RE: [HECnet] HECnet mapping project
I'd just add a LAT/LONG field before the notes one
FWIW, the existing INFO.TXT format already has a "location" field -
it's
City
and Country, but you can just geolocate the city center.
Bob
On 26 Dec 2012, at 01:33, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I did said quick hack from STUPI to GW, here's the new router graph:
http://www.sampsa.com/just-routers.svg
So my suggestion to those with "weird" links that we can't crawl is that they provide us with two things:
- A list of their connections to the rest of HECnet (i.e. the area routers)
- A list of the end nodes that are connected to their area routers
Formats for these will follow, they're basically CSV.
Is this OK, Dave etc with CISCO gear?
I did said quick hack from STUPI to GW, here's the new router graph:
http://www.sampsa.com/just-routers.svg
On 26 Dec 2012, at 01:21, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Quick hack would be to have them self declare their router links, we then just add them to the output CSV :)
On 26 Dec 2012, at 01:20, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
So how do we find them when crawling?
Short answer - don't know. I believe the Ciscos have DECnet node numbers
and run an NML equivalent (i.e. they respond to NCP commands) but I don't
know much about them. Sorry; I don't have one.
Bob
Quick hack would be to have them self declare their router links, we then just add them to the output CSV :)
On 26 Dec 2012, at 01:20, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
So how do we find them when crawling?
Short answer - don't know. I believe the Ciscos have DECnet node numbers
and run an NML equivalent (i.e. they respond to NCP commands) but I don't
know much about them. Sorry; I don't have one.
Bob