HECnet November 2012

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by setala＠gmail.com

2 MicroVAX 3400's on their way to their new home.. no problem to fit into my Smart 4Four https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/395143_4787315808251… --Saku On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:06 PM, <sampsa at mac.com> wrote: Well that sucks. On 28 Nov 2012, at 16:03, Saku Set l <setala at gmail.com> wrote: > After a decade of running, I have to shut down and move the cluster. > > Planning to be back online after a while, but don't hold your breath.. > > Regards, > > Saku >

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3B1s and "old school" UNIX, was Re: [HECnet] US Seller with some interesting stuff

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 11/27/2012 10:25 PM, Boyanich, Alastair wrote: Wasn't there some bitsliced cpu variants ? Of the 7300/3B1? No, not that I'm aware of. They're call 68010-based. I know there was the AT&T UNIX PC which was a 68010 + custom external MMU, but there was also a proprietry cpu version I ran into the trap of in a past life. The "UNIX PC" is the 7300, which is nearly identical to the 3B1. The 3B1 has a slightly larger top cover to accommodate a full-height hard drive, while the 7300 will only hold a half-height drive. They are otherwise identical, using 68010s. I'd sure like to know more about the "proprietary cpu" version you're talking about. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Area 11 going offline for sometime

by sampsa＠mac.com

Well that sucks. On 28 Nov 2012, at 16:03, Saku Set l <setala at gmail.com> wrote: After a decade of running, I have to shut down and move the cluster. Planning to be back online after a while, but don't hold your breath.. Regards, Saku

11 years, 5 months

Area 11 going offline for sometime

by setala＠gmail.com

After a decade of running, I have to shut down and move the cluster. Planning to be back online after a while, but don't hold your breath.. Regards, Saku

11 years, 5 months

3B1s and "old school" UNIX, was Re: [HECnet] US Seller with some interesting stuff

by Alastair.Boyanich＠au.fujitsu.com

Wasn't there some bitsliced cpu variants ? I know there was the AT&T UNIX PC which was a 68010 + custom external MMU, but there was also a proprietry cpu version I ran into the trap of in a past life. Al. -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Brian Hechinger Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012 11:54 AM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: 3B1s and "old school" UNIX, was Re: [HECnet] US Seller with some interesting stuff On 11/27/2012 9:59 AM, Dave McGuire wrote: On 11/27/2012 09:28 AM, Brian Hechinger wrote: I know there was a Datakit adapter for the 3B2 and 3B20, did the 3B1 have such a thing? Not that I'm aware of. There's no connection at all between the 3B1 and the 3B2/5/15/20/etc family. The 3B1 is a 68K machine (68010). Ah, I just did a bit of research and I see what you mean. An unfortunate naming thing by AT&T. Boo! :) -brian

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3B1s and "old school" UNIX, was Re: [HECnet] US Seller with some interesting stuff

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On 11/27/2012 9:59 AM, Dave McGuire wrote: On 11/27/2012 09:28 AM, Brian Hechinger wrote: I know there was a Datakit adapter for the 3B2 and 3B20, did the 3B1 have such a thing? Not that I'm aware of. There's no connection at all between the 3B1 and the 3B2/5/15/20/etc family. The 3B1 is a 68K machine (68010). Ah, I just did a bit of research and I see what you mean. An unfortunate naming thing by AT&T. Boo! :) -brian

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Some musings brought this about AT&T 7300/ 3B1

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

Hello! It seems group that according to a couple of quote reliable but probably not verified sources unquote, that 3B1 is in fact the AT&T 7300 that I mentioned. Here: http://unixpc.taronga.com/ In fact the name at the bottom started sounding a loud Control-G howl. And here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3B1 Being right is an interesting happenstance around here. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

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3B1s and "old school" UNIX, was Re: [HECnet] US Seller with some interesting stuff

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 11/27/2012 10:01 AM, sampsa at mac.com wrote: If memory serves, the UNIX dialect that they run is SysV release 2. It's a fairly complete SysV implementation, with a nice, low-overhead GUI called "UA", for User Agent. There is no networking, but there's a (rare) Ethernet card for the machine, which was shipped with an IP stack written by Wollongong. The IP stack ran in short spurts between crashes, but you could use it to get stuff on or off the machine. Well there's always Kermit and UUCP - and one could always plug a few serial ports into a DECserver or something to get "networking" into the device :) To bring this on-topic for the list, could it run DECnet? As there's no actually properly functional IP stack, I'd say probably not :) But we could still hook it up via a DECserver or a captive account on one of the boxes on HECnet.. I might just do that. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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3B1s and "old school" UNIX, was Re: [HECnet] US Seller with some interesting stuff

by sampsa＠mac.com

On 27 Nov 2012, at 13:48, Peter Coghlan <HECNET at beyondthepale.ie> wrote: If memory serves, the UNIX dialect that they run is SysV release 2. It's a fairly complete SysV implementation, with a nice, low-overhead GUI called "UA", for User Agent. There is no networking, but there's a (rare) Ethernet card for the machine, which was shipped with an IP stack written by Wollongong. The IP stack ran in short spurts between crashes, but you could use it to get stuff on or off the machine. Well there's always Kermit and UUCP - and one could always plug a few serial ports into a DECserver or something to get "networking" into the device :) To bring this on-topic for the list, could it run DECnet? As there's no actually properly functional IP stack, I'd say probably not :) But we could still hook it up via a DECserver or a captive account on one of the boxes on HECnet.. Sampsa

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Re: 3B1s and "old school" UNIX, was Re: [HECnet] US Seller with some interesting stuff

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 11/27/2012 05:07 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote: He says he's selling an AT&T Unix PC 3B1, only found a monitor and a motherboard that's untested. It'd be a pretty nifty addition to a collection, I'd love a really old school Unix machine. If memory serves, the UNIX dialect that they run is SysV release 2. It's a fairly complete SysV implementation, with a nice, low-overhead GUI called "UA", for User Agent. There is no networking, but there's a (rare) Ethernet card for the machine, which was shipped with an IP stack written by Wollongong. The IP stack ran in short spurts between crashes, but you could use it to get stuff on or off the machine. Well there's always Kermit and UUCP - and one could always plug a few serial ports into a DECserver or something to get "networking" into the device :) I ran UUCP on mine, years ago. It worked well. The internal modem is 1200 baud. (which was great at the time!) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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