On 3 Nov 2012, at 16:35, Oleg Safiullin <form at pdp-11.org.ru> wrote:
Now, are the issues related to us trying to run it in a VM, or is it related to us being bad at configuring DECnet?
Could you detail exactly how you configured DECnet please?
I just installed DECnet using `@[0,1]INSTAL LAY' command and answered the qusetions.
After all I renamed DECNET$:NETUNS.TSK to NET.TSK to allow RSTS connect to RSX nodes.
BTW, i tried 3 different decnet tapes, and only one of them works.
Can you image the tape you used?
Now, are the issues related to us trying to run it in a VM, or is it related to us being bad at configuring DECnet?
Could you detail exactly how you configured DECnet please?
I just installed DECnet using `@[0,1]INSTAL LAY' command and answered the qusetions.
After all I renamed DECNET$:NETUNS.TSK to NET.TSK to allow RSTS connect to RSX nodes.
BTW, i tried 3 different decnet tapes, and only one of them works.
On 3 Nov 2012, at 16:22, Oleg Safiullin <form at pdp-11.org.ru> wrote:
sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Has anyone actually managed to get this to work (i.e. RSTS/E + DECNET 4.1)? :)
Sampsa
Just installed RSTS/E V10.1-L w/ DECnet/E V4.1 on my 11/83 :)
--
$ NCP SHO EXE CHA
Node Volatile Characteristics as of 4-NOV-12 03:13:28
Executor Node = 62.3 (BIGSYS)
State = On
Identification = DECnet/E V4.1
Management Version = 4.3.0
Loop Count = 1
Loop Length = 128
Loop With = Mixed
Counter Timer = 0
Incoming Timer = 120
Outgoing Timer = 120
ECL Version = 4.0.0
Maximum Links = 32
Delay Factor = 48
Delay Weight = 3
Inactivity Timer = 120
Retransmit Factor = 5
Routing Version = 2.0.0
Type = Non-Routing IV
Routing Timer = 120
Broadcast Routing Timer = 40
Maximum Address = 1023
Maximum Circuits = 1
Maximum Cost = 1022
Maximum Hops = 30
Maximum Visits = 32
Maximum Area = 63
Max Broadcast Nonrouters = 64
Max Broadcast Routers = 16
Maximum Buffers = 15
Buffer Size = 576
Segment Buffer Size = 576
Default Account = [254,254]
Data Xmit Queue Max = 4
Int/LS Queue Max = 2
Maximum Nodes = 256
Volatile Param File Name = SY0:[0,1]NSP0.SYS
$ SET HOST MIM
Connection Established to RSX-11M Node MIM
HEL GUEST/GUEST
RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6 BL87mP [1,54] System MIM
3-NOV-12 21:17 Logged on Terminal HT0: as GST17
Good Evening
*****************************************************************
* *
* Welcome to RSX-11M-PLUS *
* *
* Version 4.6 Base level 87 *
* *
* This is Mim.Update.UU.SE *
* (Running on E11) *
*****************************************************************
If you have any problems, or want to ask questions, don't
be afraid to write me a mail.
MIM is a E11 replacement for Magica, which can't be run 24/7 right now
because of costs. Magica is still around, and occasionally online.
The E11 license for MIM was kindly donated by John Wilson of DBIT.
(Check out www.dbit.com for more information).
*** Try HELP FUN for more fun ***
*** Try HELP LOCAL for information about compilers and stuff on MIM ***
*** A small FAQ have been written. Do "MORE FAQ" ***
*** Note that help on compiling and linking are available at HELP LOCAL ***
Johnny (bqt at update.uu.se)
Last interactive login on Saturday, November 3, 2012 19:57:07 (HT0:)
Last batch login on Saturday, August 9, 1997 17:36:13
$ @LB:[1,2]SYSLOGIN.CMD
What is your name?
RSX-11M-PLUS BL87mP (MIM ) 1920K PDP-11/74 at 21:17:30.9, 3-NOV-12
Users=3 Idle=100% Task=.IDLE. Up: 2 days, 05:37. Ticks=2 Errseq=0.
user task uic pri where state size(K) ioc par
Player AT.H0 * [ Self ] 64 HT0 Stopped 4/23 GEN
Player WHOH0 * [ Self ] 50 HT0 Running 1/4 GEN
J Billquist (In CCL) [ Oper ] _TT4
J Billquist (In CCL) [ Oper ] _TT6
SET -- Feature not supported
Welcome to Magica.
This is a guest account. Please behave.
If you'd like an account of you own, write an email to
Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se> saying so.
Please also include the following information about you:
1) Your full name.
2) A working email address to you. (Not an anonymous one)
3) A line or two about who you are.
4) A password for your account.
If you have any other requests or wishes, just include them too, and
we'll see what can be fixed.
/Johnny
$ LO
$ @LB:[1,2]SYSLOGOUT.CMD
$
Connect time: 0 hrs 0 mins 8 secs
CPU time used: 0 hrs 0 mins 3 secs
Task total: 27
Have a Good Evening
03-NOV-12 21:17 HT0: logged off MIM
$ DIS - 2 0 0
Control returned to node BIGSYS
$ SET HOST CTEPBA
Connection Established to VAX/VMS Node CTEPBA
Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V8.4
Username: GUEST
Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V8.4 on node CTEPBA
Last interactive login on Sunday, 4-NOV-2012 01:55:39.60
Last non-interactive login on Wednesday, 12-SEP-2012 22:13:16.95
$ LO
GUEST logged out at 4-NOV-2012 03:18:04.24
Control returned to node BIGSYS
$ DIR CTEPBA::
Node: CTEPBA
User: GUEST
Password:
System Password:
Directory CTEPBA::DISK$ALPHAUSR:[GUEST]
Name .Typ Size Prot Access Date Time UIC
NETSERVER.LOG;2 0/16 < 56> 04-Nov-12 04-Nov-12 03:18 [032767,032767]
NETSERVER.LOG;1 3/16 < 56> 12-Sep-12 12-Sep-12 22:13 [032767,032767]
Total of 3/32 blocks in 2 files.
Event type 33.0, Remote file access
Occurred 22-Oct-25 03:14:15.5 on node 62.3 (BIGSYS)
Access: Remote
Function: DIRECTORY
Remote node = 62.1 (CTEPBA)
Remote process = 17 0 0
Local process = 0 1 2 NFT003
User = GUEST
File accessed = 0
Now, are the issues related to us trying to run it in a VM, or is it related to us being bad at configuring DECnet?
Could you detail exactly how you configured DECnet please?
$
sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Has anyone actually managed to get this to work (i.e. RSTS/E + DECNET 4.1)? :)
Sampsa
Just installed RSTS/E V10.1-L w/ DECnet/E V4.1 on my 11/83 :)
--
$ NCP SHO EXE CHA
Node Volatile Characteristics as of 4-NOV-12 03:13:28
Executor Node = 62.3 (BIGSYS)
State = On
Identification = DECnet/E V4.1
Management Version = 4.3.0
Loop Count = 1
Loop Length = 128
Loop With = Mixed
Counter Timer = 0
Incoming Timer = 120
Outgoing Timer = 120
ECL Version = 4.0.0
Maximum Links = 32
Delay Factor = 48
Delay Weight = 3
Inactivity Timer = 120
Retransmit Factor = 5
Routing Version = 2.0.0
Type = Non-Routing IV
Routing Timer = 120
Broadcast Routing Timer = 40
Maximum Address = 1023
Maximum Circuits = 1
Maximum Cost = 1022
Maximum Hops = 30
Maximum Visits = 32
Maximum Area = 63
Max Broadcast Nonrouters = 64
Max Broadcast Routers = 16
Maximum Buffers = 15
Buffer Size = 576
Segment Buffer Size = 576
Default Account = [254,254]
Data Xmit Queue Max = 4
Int/LS Queue Max = 2
Maximum Nodes = 256
Volatile Param File Name = SY0:[0,1]NSP0.SYS
$ SET HOST MIM
Connection Established to RSX-11M Node MIM
>HEL GUEST/GUEST
RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6 BL87mP [1,54] System MIM
3-NOV-12 21:17 Logged on Terminal HT0: as GST17
Good Evening
*****************************************************************
* *
* Welcome to RSX-11M-PLUS *
* *
* Version 4.6 Base level 87 *
* *
* This is Mim.Update.UU.SE *
* (Running on E11) *
*****************************************************************
If you have any problems, or want to ask questions, don't
be afraid to write me a mail.
MIM is a E11 replacement for Magica, which can't be run 24/7 right now
because of costs. Magica is still around, and occasionally online.
The E11 license for MIM was kindly donated by John Wilson of DBIT.
(Check out www.dbit.com for more information).
*** Try HELP FUN for more fun ***
*** Try HELP LOCAL for information about compilers and stuff on MIM ***
*** A small FAQ have been written. Do "MORE FAQ" ***
*** Note that help on compiling and linking are available at HELP LOCAL ***
Johnny (bqt at update.uu.se)
Last interactive login on Saturday, November 3, 2012 19:57:07 (HT0:)
Last batch login on Saturday, August 9, 1997 17:36:13
$ @LB:[1,2]SYSLOGIN.CMD
What is your name?
RSX-11M-PLUS BL87mP (MIM ) 1920K PDP-11/74 at 21:17:30.9, 3-NOV-12
Users=3 Idle=100% Task=.IDLE. Up: 2 days, 05:37. Ticks=2 Errseq=0.
user task uic pri where state size(K) ioc par
Player AT.H0 * [ Self ] 64 HT0 Stopped 4/23 GEN
Player WHOH0 * [ Self ] 50 HT0 Running 1/4 GEN
J Billquist (In CCL) [ Oper ] _TT4
J Billquist (In CCL) [ Oper ] _TT6
SET -- Feature not supported
Welcome to Magica.
This is a guest account. Please behave.
If you'd like an account of you own, write an email to
Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se> saying so.
Please also include the following information about you:
1) Your full name.
2) A working email address to you. (Not an anonymous one)
3) A line or two about who you are.
4) A password for your account.
If you have any other requests or wishes, just include them too, and
we'll see what can be fixed.
/Johnny
$ LO
$ @LB:[1,2]SYSLOGOUT.CMD
$
Connect time: 0 hrs 0 mins 8 secs
CPU time used: 0 hrs 0 mins 3 secs
Task total: 27
Have a Good Evening
03-NOV-12 21:17 HT0: logged off MIM
$ DIS - 2 0 0
Control returned to node BIGSYS
$ SET HOST CTEPBA
Connection Established to VAX/VMS Node CTEPBA
Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V8.4
Username: GUEST
Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V8.4 on node CTEPBA
Last interactive login on Sunday, 4-NOV-2012 01:55:39.60
Last non-interactive login on Wednesday, 12-SEP-2012 22:13:16.95
$ LO
GUEST logged out at 4-NOV-2012 03:18:04.24
Control returned to node BIGSYS
$ DIR CTEPBA::
Node: CTEPBA
User: GUEST
Password:
System Password:
Directory CTEPBA::DISK$ALPHAUSR:[GUEST]
Name .Typ Size Prot Access Date Time UIC
NETSERVER.LOG;2 0/16 < 56> 04-Nov-12 04-Nov-12 03:18 [032767,032767]
NETSERVER.LOG;1 3/16 < 56> 12-Sep-12 12-Sep-12 22:13 [032767,032767]
Total of 3/32 blocks in 2 files.
Event type 33.0, Remote file access
Occurred 22-Oct-25 03:14:15.5 on node 62.3 (BIGSYS)
Access: Remote
Function: DIRECTORY
Remote node = 62.1 (CTEPBA)
Remote process = 17 0 0
Local process = 0 1 2 NFT003
User = GUEST
File accessed = 0
$
On 11/02/2012 05:43 PM, Bill Pechter wrote:
A coworker put a MicroVaxII in a vt103 with 4 serial lines.
He had fun telling people the VT WAS the Vax, not a terminal.
Very nice! I assume he beefed up the power supply; do you know how he
did it? My VT103 has a PDP-11/23 in it and it's borderline on current.
I'd love to put a VAX in there.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
I could maybe work on it a little bit, but I'm pretty buried too. I think we can leverage (at least somewhat) existing equipment to get a head start on this.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Nov 2, 2012, at 9:03 PM, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Joe Ferraro
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 08:38
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: Re: IP over HF packet, was Re: [HECnet] Area 19
If you guys actually try to do DECnet over radio I'd be interested...
Bob WU6V
As am I.
Joe
Who has the time to work on this? I buried in day-to-day work.
-Steve
I've recently gotten RSX-11M+ 4.6 installed in simh (and I'm feeling more and more comfortable with SYSGEN. ;))
Except, i'm stuck with getting DECnet working.
It seems the tape on the trailing-edge ftp site is either corrupted, or i'm terrible at using tapes in simh. Considering the presence of the .errs file in the archive and google saying a lot of the tapes are corrupted, i'm gonna lean towards that answer. Anyone have the DECnet for RSX-11M+ tape(s) anywhere?
Thanks!
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Joe Ferraro
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 08:38
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: Re: IP over HF packet, was Re: [HECnet] Area 19
If you guys actually try to do DECnet over radio I'd be interested...
Bob WU6V
As am I.
Joe
Who has the time to work on this? I buried in day-to-day work.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Gregg Levine
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 00:07
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: Re: IP over HF packet, was Re: [HECnet] Area 19
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Dave McGuire
<mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 11/01/2012 11:56 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Nov 1, 2012, at 11:44 PM, "Bob Armstrong" <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
There are mountains...that'd be tough.
Bigger tower :-)
We can borrow some of the ideas from AT&T Long Lines and
have our own
hobbyist telecom grid. I mean, it's the next logical step
right? Know
anyone with large fibre or copper spools laying around? ;)
We can do this.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hello!
Currently the longest run for WiFi happens to be around the
distance from the hills somewhere inside Clark County NV to
about the hills somewhere by Salt Lake Utah. But I'm not sure
what was used.
Oh and look into how the return to Mars prior to the group
we've got up there now accomplished its work.
Oh and Dave all of them used the shower.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
My neighbor worked on the satellite relay software that is used to
communicate with the Mars rover.
-Steve
