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by sampsa＠mac.com

I think we should have a HECnet CTERM interface to this too :) Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 17:54, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote: I've asked majordomo which doesn't confirm or deny, but it seems that there is no digest mode for the HECnet list. This was asked before, and I'm pretty sure the majordomo we're using for this list does not support digests. I'd be willing to volunteer to host the list using current (more or less) Gnu Mailman software if people want to switch. If someone (Johnny??) can send me a list of the current subscribers, I'll even automatically subscribe them. If somebody adds an appropriate forwarding address for hecnet at update.uu.se, we can even make the change semi-transparent. Not only does Gnu have a digest mode (in several different formats, to boot) but it also has a web accessible UI for subscribing AND a web accessible archive of past messages. Yipee!!! Bob

13 years, 1 month

digest mode

by bob＠jfcl.com

I've asked majordomo which doesn't confirm or deny, but it seems that there is no digest mode for the HECnet list. This was asked before, and I'm pretty sure the majordomo we're using for this list does not support digests. I'd be willing to volunteer to host the list using current (more or less) Gnu Mailman software if people want to switch. If someone (Johnny??) can send me a list of the current subscribers, I'll even automatically subscribe them. If somebody adds an appropriate forwarding address for hecnet at update.uu.se, we can even make the change semi-transparent. Not only does Gnu have a digest mode (in several different formats, to boot) but it also has a web accessible UI for subscribing AND a web accessible archive of past messages. Yipee!!! Bob

13 years, 1 month

Need disk space for some VAX work? KUHAVX/SIIRI might be useful..

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

You know we already had this setup, right? -brian On 12/17/2012 10:43 AM, sampsa at mac.com wrote: That would probably work. One SIMH VAX there to run MULTINET and a bridge connection, everyone who needs VPNs in, gets a static IP and everything works :) Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 17:41, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 17 Dec 2012, at 10:32, sampsa at mac.com wrote: I'm up for helping out in any way needed. This leads me to one thing I've been thinking about - we should maybe pool in to rent a VPS or even a dedicated server and set up a VPN service on it. My mail server runs very little, I could run a VPN on it. It's in Canada, but has reasonable latency to most US locations due to OVH's US network being fairly sane. That way people who are behind dynamic IPs / weird NAT setups etc can VPN into the virtual LAN running on the VPS and connect via MULTINET / the bridge etc. Just an idea. Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 17:29, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Fred <fcoffey at misernet.net> wrote: On Sun, 16 Dec 2012, Peter Coghlan wrote: It could get a lot uglier - I've had Hercules running on a VAX... Now *that* I like. :) Hopefully not to drift too far OT but ... I have a few instances of Hercules running on my main Linux machine, some runinng, most are not - while I am amazed at the great strides folks both on the OS side and Hercules have done, I'd actually like to **do** something with them (similar to the "crazy" stuff I see being done with the various DEC OSes by folks on the list). If I could retire and had limitness time I'm sure I could write something, but still ... Anyone on the HECNet list doing anything interesting with VM/370, MVS 3.8J, MUSIC/SP or any other legal-to-run OS on Hercules? Fred Hello! Well yes I am Fred. Every time I get a few free minutes, I do bring up Hercules running VM/370. But without that all important detail, knowing how systems who ran that spoke to each other it is not much fun. However one fellow over on the other side of the pond is a bit more familiar with the way things work says there is a way to do that, and wants to create a hobbyist network of machines running VM/370 in the same way everything is done in this group. In fact he's based in an area not far from one of the larger hobbyist systems we have. Yes Sampsa I mean your UK place. I have the network bandwidth to make things work for me, here, on both sides of the technology fence, but one big hangup, it is a dynamic assigned DSL service, (ADSL) and as such it would be difficult but not impossible. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

13 years, 1 month

Need disk space for some VAX work? KUHAVX/SIIRI might be useful..

by sampsa＠mac.com

That would probably work. One SIMH VAX there to run MULTINET and a bridge connection, everyone who needs VPNs in, gets a static IP and everything works :) Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 17:41, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 17 Dec 2012, at 10:32, sampsa at mac.com wrote: I'm up for helping out in any way needed. This leads me to one thing I've been thinking about - we should maybe pool in to rent a VPS or even a dedicated server and set up a VPN service on it. My mail server runs very little, I could run a VPN on it. It's in Canada, but has reasonable latency to most US locations due to OVH's US network being fairly sane. That way people who are behind dynamic IPs / weird NAT setups etc can VPN into the virtual LAN running on the VPS and connect via MULTINET / the bridge etc. Just an idea. Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 17:29, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Fred <fcoffey at misernet.net> wrote: On Sun, 16 Dec 2012, Peter Coghlan wrote: It could get a lot uglier - I've had Hercules running on a VAX... Now *that* I like. :) Hopefully not to drift too far OT but ... I have a few instances of Hercules running on my main Linux machine, some runinng, most are not - while I am amazed at the great strides folks both on the OS side and Hercules have done, I'd actually like to **do** something with them (similar to the "crazy" stuff I see being done with the various DEC OSes by folks on the list). If I could retire and had limitness time I'm sure I could write something, but still ... Anyone on the HECNet list doing anything interesting with VM/370, MVS 3.8J, MUSIC/SP or any other legal-to-run OS on Hercules? Fred Hello! Well yes I am Fred. Every time I get a few free minutes, I do bring up Hercules running VM/370. But without that all important detail, knowing how systems who ran that spoke to each other it is not much fun. However one fellow over on the other side of the pond is a bit more familiar with the way things work says there is a way to do that, and wants to create a hobbyist network of machines running VM/370 in the same way everything is done in this group. In fact he's based in an area not far from one of the larger hobbyist systems we have. Yes Sampsa I mean your UK place. I have the network bandwidth to make things work for me, here, on both sides of the technology fence, but one big hangup, it is a dynamic assigned DSL service, (ADSL) and as such it would be difficult but not impossible. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

13 years, 1 month

Need disk space for some VAX work? KUHAVX/SIIRI might be useful..

by b4＠gewt.net

On 17 Dec 2012, at 10:32, sampsa at mac.com wrote: I'm up for helping out in any way needed. This leads me to one thing I've been thinking about - we should maybe pool in to rent a VPS or even a dedicated server and set up a VPN service on it. My mail server runs very little, I could run a VPN on it. It's in Canada, but has reasonable latency to most US locations due to OVH's US network being fairly sane. That way people who are behind dynamic IPs / weird NAT setups etc can VPN into the virtual LAN running on the VPS and connect via MULTINET / the bridge etc. Just an idea. Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 17:29, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Fred <fcoffey at misernet.net> wrote: On Sun, 16 Dec 2012, Peter Coghlan wrote: It could get a lot uglier - I've had Hercules running on a VAX... Now *that* I like. :) Hopefully not to drift too far OT but ... I have a few instances of Hercules running on my main Linux machine, some runinng, most are not - while I am amazed at the great strides folks both on the OS side and Hercules have done, I'd actually like to **do** something with them (similar to the "crazy" stuff I see being done with the various DEC OSes by folks on the list). If I could retire and had limitness time I'm sure I could write something, but still ... Anyone on the HECNet list doing anything interesting with VM/370, MVS 3.8J, MUSIC/SP or any other legal-to-run OS on Hercules? Fred Hello! Well yes I am Fred. Every time I get a few free minutes, I do bring up Hercules running VM/370. But without that all important detail, knowing how systems who ran that spoke to each other it is not much fun. However one fellow over on the other side of the pond is a bit more familiar with the way things work says there is a way to do that, and wants to create a hobbyist network of machines running VM/370 in the same way everything is done in this group. In fact he's based in an area not far from one of the larger hobbyist systems we have. Yes Sampsa I mean your UK place. I have the network bandwidth to make things work for me, here, on both sides of the technology fence, but one big hangup, it is a dynamic assigned DSL service, (ADSL) and as such it would be difficult but not impossible. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

13 years, 1 month

digest mode

by phil＠rephil.org

Hi, guys - I've asked majordomo which doesn't confirm or deny, but it seems that there is no digest mode for the HECnet list. Can someone else confirm or deny? Thx, Phil M -- "There is some truth in your fiction, and some fiction in your truth." -- Animatrix

13 years, 1 month

Need disk space for some VAX work? KUHAVX/SIIRI might be useful..

by b4＠gewt.net

On 17 Dec 2012, at 10:29, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Fred <fcoffey at misernet.net> wrote: On Sun, 16 Dec 2012, Peter Coghlan wrote: It could get a lot uglier - I've had Hercules running on a VAX... Now *that* I like. :) Hopefully not to drift too far OT but ... I have a few instances of Hercules running on my main Linux machine, some runinng, most are not - while I am amazed at the great strides folks both on the OS side and Hercules have done, I'd actually like to **do** something with them (similar to the "crazy" stuff I see being done with the various DEC OSes by folks on the list). If I could retire and had limitness time I'm sure I could write something, but still ... Anyone on the HECNet list doing anything interesting with VM/370, MVS 3.8J, MUSIC/SP or any other legal-to-run OS on Hercules? Fred Hello! Well yes I am Fred. Every time I get a few free minutes, I do bring up Hercules running VM/370. But without that all important detail, knowing how systems who ran that spoke to each other it is not much fun. However one fellow over on the other side of the pond is a bit more familiar with the way things work says there is a way to do that, and wants to create a hobbyist network of machines running VM/370 in the same way everything is done in this group. In fact he's based in an area not far from one of the larger hobbyist systems we have. Yes Sampsa I mean your UK place. I have the network bandwidth to make things work for me, here, on both sides of the technology fence, but one big hangup, it is a dynamic assigned DSL service, (ADSL) and as such it would be difficult but not impossible. Add IPv6, use tunnelbroker.net and do it with a static IPv6 tunnel that supports dynamic IPs. :D ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

13 years, 1 month

Need disk space for some VAX work? KUHAVX/SIIRI might be useful..

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

I would be up for this. Maybe try to get a US based one and a EU based one. I'm mostly interested as my free colo deal is likely going away. If it doesn't, I can get all that stuff running on wiggum. -brian On 12/17/2012 10:32 AM, sampsa at mac.com wrote: I'm up for helping out in any way needed. This leads me to one thing I've been thinking about - we should maybe pool in to rent a VPS or even a dedicated server and set up a VPN service on it. That way people who are behind dynamic IPs / weird NAT setups etc can VPN into the virtual LAN running on the VPS and connect via MULTINET / the bridge etc. Just an idea. Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 17:29, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Fred <fcoffey at misernet.net> wrote: On Sun, 16 Dec 2012, Peter Coghlan wrote: It could get a lot uglier - I've had Hercules running on a VAX... Now *that* I like. :) Hopefully not to drift too far OT but ... I have a few instances of Hercules running on my main Linux machine, some runinng, most are not - while I am amazed at the great strides folks both on the OS side and Hercules have done, I'd actually like to **do** something with them (similar to the "crazy" stuff I see being done with the various DEC OSes by folks on the list). If I could retire and had limitness time I'm sure I could write something, but still ... Anyone on the HECNet list doing anything interesting with VM/370, MVS 3.8J, MUSIC/SP or any other legal-to-run OS on Hercules? Fred Hello! Well yes I am Fred. Every time I get a few free minutes, I do bring up Hercules running VM/370. But without that all important detail, knowing how systems who ran that spoke to each other it is not much fun. However one fellow over on the other side of the pond is a bit more familiar with the way things work says there is a way to do that, and wants to create a hobbyist network of machines running VM/370 in the same way everything is done in this group. In fact he's based in an area not far from one of the larger hobbyist systems we have. Yes Sampsa I mean your UK place. I have the network bandwidth to make things work for me, here, on both sides of the technology fence, but one big hangup, it is a dynamic assigned DSL service, (ADSL) and as such it would be difficult but not impossible. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

13 years, 1 month

Need disk space for some VAX work? KUHAVX/SIIRI might be useful..

by sampsa＠mac.com

I'm up for helping out in any way needed. This leads me to one thing I've been thinking about - we should maybe pool in to rent a VPS or even a dedicated server and set up a VPN service on it. That way people who are behind dynamic IPs / weird NAT setups etc can VPN into the virtual LAN running on the VPS and connect via MULTINET / the bridge etc. Just an idea. Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 17:29, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Fred <fcoffey at misernet.net> wrote: On Sun, 16 Dec 2012, Peter Coghlan wrote: It could get a lot uglier - I've had Hercules running on a VAX... Now *that* I like. :) Hopefully not to drift too far OT but ... I have a few instances of Hercules running on my main Linux machine, some runinng, most are not - while I am amazed at the great strides folks both on the OS side and Hercules have done, I'd actually like to **do** something with them (similar to the "crazy" stuff I see being done with the various DEC OSes by folks on the list). If I could retire and had limitness time I'm sure I could write something, but still ... Anyone on the HECNet list doing anything interesting with VM/370, MVS 3.8J, MUSIC/SP or any other legal-to-run OS on Hercules? Fred Hello! Well yes I am Fred. Every time I get a few free minutes, I do bring up Hercules running VM/370. But without that all important detail, knowing how systems who ran that spoke to each other it is not much fun. However one fellow over on the other side of the pond is a bit more familiar with the way things work says there is a way to do that, and wants to create a hobbyist network of machines running VM/370 in the same way everything is done in this group. In fact he's based in an area not far from one of the larger hobbyist systems we have. Yes Sampsa I mean your UK place. I have the network bandwidth to make things work for me, here, on both sides of the technology fence, but one big hangup, it is a dynamic assigned DSL service, (ADSL) and as such it would be difficult but not impossible. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

13 years, 1 month

Need disk space for some VAX work? KUHAVX/SIIRI might be useful..

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Fred <fcoffey at misernet.net> wrote: On Sun, 16 Dec 2012, Peter Coghlan wrote: It could get a lot uglier - I've had Hercules running on a VAX... Now *that* I like. :) Hopefully not to drift too far OT but ... I have a few instances of Hercules running on my main Linux machine, some runinng, most are not - while I am amazed at the great strides folks both on the OS side and Hercules have done, I'd actually like to **do** something with them (similar to the "crazy" stuff I see being done with the various DEC OSes by folks on the list). If I could retire and had limitness time I'm sure I could write something, but still ... Anyone on the HECNet list doing anything interesting with VM/370, MVS 3.8J, MUSIC/SP or any other legal-to-run OS on Hercules? Fred Hello! Well yes I am Fred. Every time I get a few free minutes, I do bring up Hercules running VM/370. But without that all important detail, knowing how systems who ran that spoke to each other it is not much fun. However one fellow over on the other side of the pond is a bit more familiar with the way things work says there is a way to do that, and wants to create a hobbyist network of machines running VM/370 in the same way everything is done in this group. In fact he's based in an area not far from one of the larger hobbyist systems we have. Yes Sampsa I mean your UK place. I have the network bandwidth to make things work for me, here, on both sides of the technology fence, but one big hangup, it is a dynamic assigned DSL service, (ADSL) and as such it would be difficult but not impossible. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

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