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VPS for VPNs, was Re: [HECnet] Need disk space for some VAX work? KUHAVX/SIIRI might be useful..

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 12/17/2012 10:32 AM, sampsa at mac.com wrote: I'm up for helping out in any way needed. This leads me to one thing I've been thinking about - we should maybe pool in to rent a VPS or even a dedicated server and set up a VPN service on it. That way people who are behind dynamic IPs / weird NAT setups etc can VPN into the virtual LAN running on the VPS and connect via MULTINET / the bridge etc. Just an idea. I have a pretty beefy VMware host machine here, and a pool of static addresses. I can set this up here, for someone else to manage preferably, no rent required. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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by sampsa＠mac.com

RHESUS isn't exactly a high-visibility web site - I can post the Google Analytics data here every month if you guys want it :) Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 19:20, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-17 18:17, sampsa at mac.com wrote: Johnny, How about this - http://rhesus.sampsa.com/cgi-bin/hecnetinfo/hecnetinfo.com?q=labvax It's a tad slower now due to the extra NCPs, but works? Yes. That is some useful information, or atleast I think so. But I don't know if others might disagree, or if they might thing it is giving out too much information? Johnny sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 19:09, sampsa at mac.com wrote: Sure - I just need to work out the UI, the actual execution of this is trivial :) Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 19:03, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-17 17:58, sampsa at mac.com wrote: I try to do it weekly - I _THINK_ Steve Davidson set up a script to do it automatically once a week, but I suppose I could add a batch job to do it daily automatically too. Ah, yes. It was Steve who have something automated. He polls a file on MIM to get a node list, checking when that file was last modified. Maybe Steve can share that, if he hasn't already... What more NCP info would you like to see? NCP SHO NOD <foobar> STATUS could be useful perhaps? However, it is less so when the node is several hops away. You could be clever and traverse until you get next to it... Or something like NCP TELL <foobar> SHO EXEC could be something. Both CHARACTERISTICS and COUNTERS? There are many things that can be done. :-) Johnny Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 18:56, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-17 17:42, sampsa at mac.com wrote: RHESUS serves node info on these by the way, the URL is: http://rhesus.sampsa.com/cgi-bin/hecnetinfo/hecnetinfo.com Rather cute. I could do that on MIM nowadays... Maybe some more information from NCP on what it knows could be cool? How often to you update your node database? Johnny sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 18:40, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: Well, I figured it might be fun for people to know that there are, as of this moment, 405 known node names at MIM. Not bad... I know there are some more coming in, and in general, there is a steady stream of new registrations. Speaking of which, is noone running a phase V area router? (Or could phase V not even be an area router?) Johnny

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by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-12-17 18:17, sampsa at mac.com wrote: Johnny, How about this - http://rhesus.sampsa.com/cgi-bin/hecnetinfo/hecnetinfo.com?q=labvax It's a tad slower now due to the extra NCPs, but works? Yes. That is some useful information, or atleast I think so. But I don't know if others might disagree, or if they might thing it is giving out too much information? Johnny sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 19:09, sampsa at mac.com wrote: Sure - I just need to work out the UI, the actual execution of this is trivial :) Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 19:03, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-17 17:58, sampsa at mac.com wrote: I try to do it weekly - I _THINK_ Steve Davidson set up a script to do it automatically once a week, but I suppose I could add a batch job to do it daily automatically too. Ah, yes. It was Steve who have something automated. He polls a file on MIM to get a node list, checking when that file was last modified. Maybe Steve can share that, if he hasn't already... What more NCP info would you like to see? NCP SHO NOD <foobar> STATUS could be useful perhaps? However, it is less so when the node is several hops away. You could be clever and traverse until you get next to it... Or something like NCP TELL <foobar> SHO EXEC could be something. Both CHARACTERISTICS and COUNTERS? There are many things that can be done. :-) Johnny Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 18:56, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-17 17:42, sampsa at mac.com wrote: RHESUS serves node info on these by the way, the URL is: http://rhesus.sampsa.com/cgi-bin/hecnetinfo/hecnetinfo.com Rather cute. I could do that on MIM nowadays... Maybe some more information from NCP on what it knows could be cool? How often to you update your node database? Johnny sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 18:40, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: Well, I figured it might be fun for people to know that there are, as of this moment, 405 known node names at MIM. Not bad... I know there are some more coming in, and in general, there is a steady stream of new registrations. Speaking of which, is noone running a phase V area router? (Or could phase V not even be an area router?) Johnny

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DECnet over IP question...

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

On Dec 16, 2012, at 4:57 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Semi-related, but can Phase V interact with Phase IV at all? Backward compatibility has always been a requirement in DECnet. All DECnet phase x interoperates with Phase x-1. Sometimes that's straightforward (Phase III to Phase IV), sometimes not (IV to V). paul

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by sampsa＠mac.com

Johnny, How about this - http://rhesus.sampsa.com/cgi-bin/hecnetinfo/hecnetinfo.com?q=labvax It's a tad slower now due to the extra NCPs, but works? sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 19:09, sampsa at mac.com wrote: Sure - I just need to work out the UI, the actual execution of this is trivial :) Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 19:03, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-17 17:58, sampsa at mac.com wrote: I try to do it weekly - I _THINK_ Steve Davidson set up a script to do it automatically once a week, but I suppose I could add a batch job to do it daily automatically too. Ah, yes. It was Steve who have something automated. He polls a file on MIM to get a node list, checking when that file was last modified. Maybe Steve can share that, if he hasn't already... What more NCP info would you like to see? NCP SHO NOD <foobar> STATUS could be useful perhaps? However, it is less so when the node is several hops away. You could be clever and traverse until you get next to it... Or something like NCP TELL <foobar> SHO EXEC could be something. Both CHARACTERISTICS and COUNTERS? There are many things that can be done. :-) Johnny Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 18:56, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-17 17:42, sampsa at mac.com wrote: RHESUS serves node info on these by the way, the URL is: http://rhesus.sampsa.com/cgi-bin/hecnetinfo/hecnetinfo.com Rather cute. I could do that on MIM nowadays... Maybe some more information from NCP on what it knows could be cool? How often to you update your node database? Johnny sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 18:40, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: Well, I figured it might be fun for people to know that there are, as of this moment, 405 known node names at MIM. Not bad... I know there are some more coming in, and in general, there is a steady stream of new registrations. Speaking of which, is noone running a phase V area router? (Or could phase V not even be an area router?) Johnny

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digest mode

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-12-17 18:05, Peter Coghlan wrote: Do people really want digest mode here? Yes (for me, at least - I always have!). And an archive of past messages would be really nice... I've never see the attraction of digest mode. People who are not on digest reply to topics of interest immediately. People on digest reply hours or days later when everyone else has lost interest. Sometimes they end up replying with the subject of the digest instead of the subject of the posting they are replying to. Topics become very disjointed. That is sortof my opinion as well, which is why I asked. Obviously different people have different usage patterns, so I don't object to it being perhaps more useful to others. But I wanted to check. (And don't forget people who forget to trim their digest when replying, resulting in everyone getting the whole digest mail when they get a reply...) And usually you also loose thread id's from message headers, meaning even correctly trimmed replies are not always gathered in the same thread as the rest of the messages. Johnny

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by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-12-17 17:58, Brian Hechinger wrote: On 12/17/2012 11:56 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-12-17 17:42, sampsa at mac.com wrote: RHESUS serves node info on these by the way, the URL is: http://rhesus.sampsa.com/cgi-bin/hecnetinfo/hecnetinfo.com Rather cute. I could do that on MIM nowadays... Maybe some more information from NCP on what it knows could be cool? How often to you update your node database? I really do need to get back to my mapping utility. I've given up on scripting it since the lack of recursion is kinda killing me. Is there a way to access NCP from a library so I can write it in something like C? I've never seen any. I think Peter might have something for TOPS-20, though... ;-) However, the general thing isn't hard in principle. Anyone can open a connection to NCP and talk. However, I don't know if the NICE protocol has enough documentation around, or if people have just reverse engineered parts of it. And then of course, you need to talk DECnet, but the API to DECnet is usually not so hard to play with. Johnny

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by sampsa＠mac.com

Sure - I just need to work out the UI, the actual execution of this is trivial :) Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 19:03, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-17 17:58, sampsa at mac.com wrote: I try to do it weekly - I _THINK_ Steve Davidson set up a script to do it automatically once a week, but I suppose I could add a batch job to do it daily automatically too. Ah, yes. It was Steve who have something automated. He polls a file on MIM to get a node list, checking when that file was last modified. Maybe Steve can share that, if he hasn't already... What more NCP info would you like to see? NCP SHO NOD <foobar> STATUS could be useful perhaps? However, it is less so when the node is several hops away. You could be clever and traverse until you get next to it... Or something like NCP TELL <foobar> SHO EXEC could be something. Both CHARACTERISTICS and COUNTERS? There are many things that can be done. :-) Johnny Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 18:56, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-17 17:42, sampsa at mac.com wrote: RHESUS serves node info on these by the way, the URL is: http://rhesus.sampsa.com/cgi-bin/hecnetinfo/hecnetinfo.com Rather cute. I could do that on MIM nowadays... Maybe some more information from NCP on what it knows could be cool? How often to you update your node database? Johnny sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 18:40, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: Well, I figured it might be fun for people to know that there are, as of this moment, 405 known node names at MIM. Not bad... I know there are some more coming in, and in general, there is a steady stream of new registrations. Speaking of which, is noone running a phase V area router? (Or could phase V not even be an area router?) Johnny

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digest mode

by HECNET＠beyondthepale.ie

Do people really want digest mode here? Yes (for me, at least - I always have!). And an archive of past messages would be really nice... I've never see the attraction of digest mode. People who are not on digest reply to topics of interest immediately. People on digest reply hours or days later when everyone else has lost interest. Sometimes they end up replying with the subject of the digest instead of the subject of the posting they are replying to. Topics become very disjointed. I just shove hecnet mails in a VMS MAIL folder as they arrive and I have an instant message archive. This works ok provided there isn't too much off-topic stuff so I don't have to decide what to keep and what to toss. If we could agree to keep things more on topic and to put more thought into it before banging off a quick message to the list, I wonder would that reduce the need for a digest mode? Regards, Peter Coghlan.

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by b4＠gewt.net

On 17 Dec 2012, at 12:03, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-17 17:58, sampsa at mac.com wrote: I try to do it weekly - I _THINK_ Steve Davidson set up a script to do it automatically once a week, but I suppose I could add a batch job to do it daily automatically too. Ah, yes. It was Steve who have something automated. He polls a file on MIM to get a node list, checking when that file was last modified. Maybe Steve can share that, if he hasn't already... What more NCP info would you like to see? NCP SHO NOD <foobar> STATUS could be useful perhaps? However, it is less so when the node is several hops away. You could be clever and traverse until you get next to it... Or something like NCP TELL <foobar> SHO EXEC could be something. Both CHARACTERISTICS and COUNTERS? There are many things that can be done. :-) Now i almost want to propose Cacti/monitorix/munin graphs for HECnet... Johnny Sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 18:56, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-17 17:42, sampsa at mac.com wrote: RHESUS serves node info on these by the way, the URL is: http://rhesus.sampsa.com/cgi-bin/hecnetinfo/hecnetinfo.com Rather cute. I could do that on MIM nowadays... Maybe some more information from NCP on what it knows could be cool? How often to you update your node database? Johnny sampsa On 17 Dec 2012, at 18:40, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: Well, I figured it might be fun for people to know that there are, as of this moment, 405 known node names at MIM. Not bad... I know there are some more coming in, and in general, there is a steady stream of new registrations. Speaking of which, is noone running a phase V area router? (Or could phase V not even be an area router?) Johnny

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