On 2012-12-20 18:01, Brian Hechinger wrote:
On 12/20/2012 11:46 AM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote:
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
Barcelona - Catalunya - Europa
El 20/12/2012, a les 17:43, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> va
escriure:
Making some really good progress
Also, the output of 'NCP SHOW EXEC CHAR' what are all the possible
values for Type?
CHIMPY shows up as 'nonrouting IV' and GORVAX shows up as 'area'.
What other possible options are there?
"Routing IV" for level-1 (non-area) routers.
Ok, so we're up to:
nonrouting IV
Routing IV
area
anyone know of any others?
In RSX is says "Endnode IV", but I assume that is the same as "nonrouting IV".
Also, I'm trying to understand the difference in what info I can gather
here.
Does 'SHOW ADJ NODES' show all known/active circuits as well? Will
'SHOW KNOWN CIRC' ever return nodes that don't show up on the adj node
list?
Different operating systems seems to handle this differently.
Johnny
Question about area routers. I'm going to spend some time over the holiday
break bringing some of my machines back online (I'm area 42). My current
area router is making some very unsettling hard drive noises, so I'm thinking
of retiring it.
One of mine has been making heart-stopping clunking noises. However, having
backed it up and waited for it to die, it now seems to do it less frequently
and there has been no loss of data, errors logged or anything like that so
far...
I recall reading somewhere that VMS Alpha is unable to be an area router - is
that correct? I have a DS10L that will probably be my always-on machine.
I certainly came across that rumour and rummaging through NETCONFIG.COM on
recent versions of VMS, I see that it has code to avoid offering the choice
of being a router if run on anything other than a VAX.
I can't recall whether I tested this or not but I think that NCP on an Alpha
may be willing to accept DEFINE EXEC TYPE AREA - I suggest giving it a go.
I also have a Cisco 7206VXR router that can do DECnet. If I use a Cisco for
my connectivity, do I need an area router, or does the Cisco fulfill this
purpose?
I believe your Cisco should be able to do it for you, provided your link to
any other area is directly to the Cisco. It should be able to cope with bridge
connections and GRE tunnels for example. If you have a Multinet link, then I
don't think it can cope with that as that has to terminate on a host system.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
On 2012-12-20 17:43, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Making some really good progress here.
Have a couple questions though about all this.
I'm doing 'NCP TELL foo SHOW KNOWN CIRC' and so my question about that
is will all adjacent routers show up on that list?
This behaves differently in different operating systems, I've noticed. Just look at the output from MIM compared to some VMS system, for example.
Also, the output of 'NCP SHOW EXEC CHAR' what are all the possible
values for Type?
CHIMPY shows up as 'nonrouting IV' and GORVAX shows up as 'area'. What
other possible options are there?
Good question. I bet there are more than we might know.
Obviously you have three different types for phase IV, but what about phase III or phase V? And I don't know if there might be some other variants.
The ones I have seen are: "Endnode IV" and "Area". But that is when running NCP on RSX. "I assume there is also Routing IV", based on this. I cannot see what phase V nodes looks like, since NCP gives an error when trying to talk to them.
Johnny
On 12/20/2012 11:46 AM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote:
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
Barcelona - Catalunya - Europa
El 20/12/2012, a les 17:43, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> va escriure:
Making some really good progress
Also, the output of 'NCP SHOW EXEC CHAR' what are all the possible values for Type?
CHIMPY shows up as 'nonrouting IV' and GORVAX shows up as 'area'. What other possible options are there?
"Routing IV" for level-1 (non-area) routers.
Ok, so we're up to:
nonrouting IV
Routing IV
area
anyone know of any others?
Also, I'm trying to understand the difference in what info I can gather here.
Does 'SHOW ADJ NODES' show all known/active circuits as well? Will 'SHOW KNOWN CIRC' ever return nodes that don't show up on the adj node list?
-brian
Hello all,
Question about area routers. I'm going to spend some time over the holiday break bringing some of my machines back online (I'm area 42). My current area router is making some very unsettling hard drive noises, so I'm thinking of retiring it. I recall reading somewhere that VMS Alpha is unable to be an area router - is that correct? I have a DS10L that will probably be my always-on machine.
I also have a Cisco 7206VXR router that can do DECnet. If I use a Cisco for my connectivity, do I need an area router, or does the Cisco fulfill this purpose?
Thanks in advance!
Ian
On 2012-12-20 13:12, Tim Sneddon wrote:
That would be me :-) I just joined!
I have three nodes,
o. DOCMST 12.1 - Ubuntu
o. BENDER 12.2 - VMS, DECnet OSI
o. TRON 12.3 - RSTS 10.1, DECnet/E
Thanks. Added them now.
Johnny
Tim.
Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia arc
sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Just did my usual SHOW KNOW CIRC on gorvax, and saw an area 12?
They don't seem to be listed in the node database or MIM::DECNET.TXT..
sampsa
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
Barcelona - Catalunya - Europa
El 20/12/2012, a les 17:43, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> va escriure:
Making some really good progress
Also, the output of 'NCP SHOW EXEC CHAR' what are all the possible values for Type?
CHIMPY shows up as 'nonrouting IV' and GORVAX shows up as 'area'. What other possible options are there?
"Routing IV" for level-1 (non-area) routers.
Making some really good progress here.
Have a couple questions though about all this.
I'm doing 'NCP TELL foo SHOW KNOWN CIRC' and so my question about that is will all adjacent routers show up on that list?
Also, the output of 'NCP SHOW EXEC CHAR' what are all the possible values for Type?
CHIMPY shows up as 'nonrouting IV' and GORVAX shows up as 'area'. What other possible options are there?
-brian
Ignore this, I figured out the whole DEFINE/SET SERVICE thing too.
Sorry to bother you.
sampsa
On 20 Dec 2012, at 17:33, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Brief summary: I want to connect a bunch of console cables to a DS200, and server them out using LAT.
I've started LAT on KUHAVX (same LAN segment) but can't see the port I've defined (with a name GVXCON and ACCESS=REMOTE) on the DS200.
The DS200 port config looks like this at the moment:
---- SNIP ---
Local> show port 2
Port 2: Server: HILADS
Character Size: 8 Input Speed: 9600
Flow Control: XON Output Speed: 9600
Parity: None Modem Control: Disabled
Access: Remote Local Switch: None
Backwards Switch: None Name: GVXCON
Break: Disabled Session Limit: 4
Forwards Switch: None Type: Soft
Preferred Service: None
Authorized Groups: 0
(Current) Groups: 0
Enabled Characteristics:
Autoprompt, Broadcast, DSRlogout, Inactivity Logout,
Input Flow Control, Loss Notification, Message Codes,
Output Flow Control, Verification
---- SNIP ---
However on KUHAVX LATCP SHOW SERVICES shows this:
--- SNIP ---
LATCP> show services
LAT Control Program
Service Name Status Identification
---------------- ----------- -------------------------------------------------
KUHAVX Available @SYS$MANAGER:ANNOUNCE.TXT
--- SNIP ---
What am I doing wrong? What commands do I need to type into the DS200 to make it serve out the ports over LAT?
sampsa
Brief summary: I want to connect a bunch of console cables to a DS200, and server them out using LAT.
I've started LAT on KUHAVX (same LAN segment) but can't see the port I've defined (with a name GVXCON and ACCESS=REMOTE) on the DS200.
The DS200 port config looks like this at the moment:
---- SNIP ---
Local> show port 2
Port 2: Server: HILADS
Character Size: 8 Input Speed: 9600
Flow Control: XON Output Speed: 9600
Parity: None Modem Control: Disabled
Access: Remote Local Switch: None
Backwards Switch: None Name: GVXCON
Break: Disabled Session Limit: 4
Forwards Switch: None Type: Soft
Preferred Service: None
Authorized Groups: 0
(Current) Groups: 0
Enabled Characteristics:
Autoprompt, Broadcast, DSRlogout, Inactivity Logout,
Input Flow Control, Loss Notification, Message Codes,
Output Flow Control, Verification
---- SNIP ---
However on KUHAVX LATCP SHOW SERVICES shows this:
--- SNIP ---
LATCP> show services
LAT Control Program
Service Name Status Identification
---------------- ----------- -------------------------------------------------
KUHAVX Available @SYS$MANAGER:ANNOUNCE.TXT
--- SNIP ---
What am I doing wrong? What commands do I need to type into the DS200 to make it serve out the ports over LAT?
sampsa
