On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:56, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:45, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
-----Original Message----- >> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE >>
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky >> Sent:
Sunday, December 23, 2012 18:36 >> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE >> Subject:
Re: [HECnet] Older VAXVMS Install kits? >> >> >> On 23 Dec 2012, at
18:33, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" >> <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote: >>
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes: >>> >>>> On 12/23/2012
05:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: > As i'm not getting >>>> anywhere with
my TOPS-10 endeavours, I thought i'd > try >> something else: >>>> older
VAXVMS in SIMH's VAX-11/780 simulator. ;) > > 1). >> What would be >>>>
the best/most interesting version to try? 2). Where > would I get >>>>
install media for these older versions? ;) >>>> >>>> I have a bunch of
older VMS distributions. I don't know >> if they're >>>> available
anywhere else or not; I would assume so but am >> not sure. >>>> At
least several 3.x and 4.x distributions, going back to >> 3.0. Let >>>>
me know if they're wanted and I can put them up somewhere. >>>> >>>> I'd
say 4.7 for speed and period-correctness, 5.5 for >> featurefulness.
The last release of VMS to run on an 11/780 was, I believe,
v6.2. >>> >>> V7.3 should run on it. >> >> Really? I seem to recall
reading several places that 6.2/6.3 >> were the last to run on an
-11/780. >> >>> >>> -- >>> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode
Hacker >> VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG >>> >>> Well I speak to machines with
the voice of humanity. >> >> > > What will run and what is supported can
be two entirely different > things!
OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Installation Procedure
Model: VAX-11/780
You are correct. ;)
...and when you've installed it, type:
$ HELP SHOW DEFAULT EXAMPLES :P
$ DEFINE KUDOS WRK:[SCHENKENBERGER.TEMP1],WRK:[SCHENKENBERGER.TEMP2]
I see!
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:45, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
-----Original Message----- >> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE >>
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky >> Sent:
Sunday, December 23, 2012 18:36 >> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE >> Subject:
Re: [HECnet] Older VAXVMS Install kits? >> >> >> On 23 Dec 2012, at
18:33, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" >> <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote: >>
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes: >>> >>>> On 12/23/2012
05:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: > As i'm not getting >>>> anywhere with
my TOPS-10 endeavours, I thought i'd > try >> something else: >>>> older
VAXVMS in SIMH's VAX-11/780 simulator. ;) > > 1). >> What would be >>>>
the best/most interesting version to try? 2). Where > would I get >>>>
install media for these older versions? ;) >>>> >>>> I have a bunch of
older VMS distributions. I don't know >> if they're >>>> available
anywhere else or not; I would assume so but am >> not sure. >>>> At
least several 3.x and 4.x distributions, going back to >> 3.0. Let >>>>
me know if they're wanted and I can put them up somewhere. >>>> >>>> I'd
say 4.7 for speed and period-correctness, 5.5 for >> featurefulness.
The last release of VMS to run on an 11/780 was, I believe,
v6.2. >>> >>> V7.3 should run on it. >> >> Really? I seem to recall
reading several places that 6.2/6.3 >> were the last to run on an
-11/780. >> >>> >>> -- >>> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode
Hacker >> VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG >>> >>> Well I speak to machines with
the voice of humanity. >> >> > > What will run and what is supported can
be two entirely different > things!
OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Installation Procedure
Model: VAX-11/780
You are correct. ;)
...and when you've installed it, type:
$ HELP SHOW DEFAULT EXAMPLES :P
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:45, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
-----Original Message----- >> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE >>
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky >> Sent:
Sunday, December 23, 2012 18:36 >> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE >> Subject:
Re: [HECnet] Older VAXVMS Install kits? >> >> >> On 23 Dec 2012, at
18:33, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" >> <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote: >>
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes: >>> >>>> On 12/23/2012
05:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: > As i'm not getting >>>> anywhere with
my TOPS-10 endeavours, I thought i'd > try >> something else: >>>> older
VAXVMS in SIMH's VAX-11/780 simulator. ;) > > 1). >> What would be >>>>
the best/most interesting version to try? 2). Where > would I get >>>>
install media for these older versions? ;) >>>> >>>> I have a bunch of
older VMS distributions. I don't know >> if they're >>>> available
anywhere else or not; I would assume so but am >> not sure. >>>> At
least several 3.x and 4.x distributions, going back to >> 3.0. Let >>>>
me know if they're wanted and I can put them up somewhere. >>>> >>>> I'd
say 4.7 for speed and period-correctness, 5.5 for >> featurefulness.
The last release of VMS to run on an 11/780 was, I believe,
v6.2. >>> >>> V7.3 should run on it. >> >> Really? I seem to recall
reading several places that 6.2/6.3 >> were the last to run on an
-11/780. >> >>> >>> -- >>> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode
Hacker >> VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG >>> >>> Well I speak to machines with
the voice of humanity. >> >> > > What will run and what is supported can
be two entirely different > things!
OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Installation Procedure
Model: VAX-11/780
You are correct. ;)
Of course I am.>
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 18:47
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] New node - BONZO2 (47.1000)
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:37, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Johnny,
When you get the chance, add this node for me. It's a
WinNT4 Server running Pathworks that I play around with.
I wish you could join systems to domains over DECnet. ;)
Sampsa
PathWorks (at least the later versions) allowed you to manage NT domains
from within a VMS system. They had rather tight integration for many
areas. Accounts, directories, and printers could be shared (and
managed) all from within the PathWorks environment. It was a little
weird when Microsoft's SMS version 1.x was integrated but it worked...
-Steve
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:33, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" =
<system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes:=20 >=20 >> On 12/23/2012
05:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: > As i'm not getting >> anywhere with my
TOPS-10 endeavours, I thought i'd > try something = else: >> older
VAXVMS in SIMH's VAX-11/780 simulator. ;) > > 1). What would be >> the
best/most interesting version to try? 2). Where > would I get >> install
media for these older versions? ;)=20 >>=20 >> I have a bunch of older
VMS distributions. I don't know if they're >> available anywhere else
or not; I would assume so but am not sure. = At >> least several 3.x
and 4.x distributions, going back to 3.0. Let me = know >> if they're
wanted and I can put them up somewhere.=20 >>=20 >> I'd say 4.7 for
speed and period-correctness, 5.5 for featurefulness.=20=
=20 >> The last release of VMS to run on an 11/780 was, I believe,
v6.2.=20 >=20 > V7.3 should run on it.
Really? I seem to recall reading several places that 6.2/6.3 were the =
last to run on an -11/780.
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:45, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 18:36
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Older VAXVMS Install kits?
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:33, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-"
<system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes:
On 12/23/2012 05:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: > As i'm not getting
anywhere with my TOPS-10 endeavours, I thought i'd > try
something else:
older VAXVMS in SIMH's VAX-11/780 simulator. ;) > > 1).
What would be
the best/most interesting version to try? 2). Where > would I get
install media for these older versions? ;)
I have a bunch of older VMS distributions. I don't know
if they're
available anywhere else or not; I would assume so but am
not sure.
At least several 3.x and 4.x distributions, going back to
3.0. Let
me know if they're wanted and I can put them up somewhere.
I'd say 4.7 for speed and period-correctness, 5.5 for
featurefulness.
The last release of VMS to run on an 11/780 was, I believe, v6.2.
V7.3 should run on it.
Really? I seem to recall reading several places that 6.2/6.3
were the last to run on an -11/780.
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker
VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
What will run and what is supported can be two entirely different
things!
OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Installation Procedure
Model: VAX-11/780
You are correct. ;)
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: 23 December 2012 21:03
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] SIMH PDP-10 + Networking?
On 23 Dec 2012, at 16:01, "Rob Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>
wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-
hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: 23 December 2012 20:13
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] SIMH PDP-10 + Networking?
On 23 Dec 2012, at 14:59, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 14:03, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 14:01, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I don't even know what that means..
Give me a bit. If i've finally figured this out it'll be on HECnet
later today.
I figured it out and got a monitor built. It just doesn't seem to
/work.
;)
Okay, i'm getting linker errors (undefined symbols, et cetera) and
it's seeming impossible to generate a TOPS-10 monitor. If anyone
wants to help further, let me know.
Just had a quick look at the manual you pointed me at. Make sure you
are following the instructions for the KS10 and not the KL10, SIMH
emulates the
KS10 only.
Actually, I was building a KL monitor because KLH10 allows me to do
DECnet.
Ah, sorry I thought you were using SIMH.
Sampsa
On 23 Dec 2012, at 20:58, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 13:49, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I want an account on the TOPS-10 machine if possible :)
I can get you one on mine today if you happen to get me a working
image that allows me to build a monitor without errors. ;)
sampsa
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:37, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Johnny,
When you get the chance, add this node for me. It's a WinNT4 Server running Pathworks that I play around with.
I wish you could join systems to domains over DECnet. ;)
Sampsa
Sampsa,
Which version of PathWorks are you running on WinNT 4.0? I may have it
here. I have V4.1 PathWorks for Windows NT.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of sampsa at mac.com
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 18:37
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] New node - BONZO2 (47.1000)
Johnny,
When you get the chance, add this node for me. It's a WinNT4 Server
running Pathworks that I play around with.
Sampsa
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 6:37 PM, <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Johnny,
When you get the chance, add this node for me. It's a WinNT4 Server running Pathworks that I play around with.
Sampsa
Hello!
Yes indeed do it. Especially since the simian who's running it for
Sampsa needs the work. (Hint: The name comes from a series of movies
that a former US President who was a reasonably good character actor
made.)
As it happens that sounds like fun, what else is it talking to and
what else did you do to bring it up?
-----
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"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."