On 23 Dec 2012, at 21:10, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes:
Not really. If you restore the correct saveset (.B), you'll get the
bootblock and other stuff setup correctly as a part of the procedure.
Find the right saveset. .A is not it.
Johnny
That's what I said from the get-go and I was not familiar at all with the
file he called out several messages back.
There should be 4, IIRC, savesets labeled VMS046.A, .B, .C and .D. Restore
the VMS046.B as an image to the boot drive and boot it.
Hmmm, trying different tapes allows me to restore a .B, however it's still not bootable. I wonder if i'm missing an option somewhere...
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Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes:
Not really. If you restore the correct saveset (.B), you'll get the
bootblock and other stuff setup correctly as a part of the procedure.
Find the right saveset. .A is not it.
Johnny
That's what I said from the get-go and I was not familiar at all with the
file he called out several messages back.
There should be 4, IIRC, savesets labeled VMS046.A, .B, .C and .D. Restore
the VMS046.B as an image to the boot drive and boot it.
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On 23 Dec 2012, at 21:05, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
I might have the wrong tape.
Is there some specific reason for V4.6?
Get a news VMS version -- I can make V6.something or V7.something available
for you -- and then, restore the .B save set to your boot device. Then, you
boot from the system disk to continue the install. Back then, VMS was dis-
tributed on tape. I've no idea how you access that from SimH. During the
boot, VMS will prompt you to enter where the distribution media is mounted
and then, it will just do the rest -- just answer to the questions as they
arise.
V6.something please. I'm looking for something a bit older than 7.x and as such was trying 4.6. ;)
If I can find the time, I'll get to my storage unit and pull the V4 (orange
wall) tomes with the installation notes for 11/780 just in case.
Do you happen to also have the tapes?
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On 2012-12-24 02:56, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 20:48, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 20:44, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" =
<system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:=20 >=20 >> Directory
DUA1:[000000]=20 >>=20 >> 000000.DIR;1 BACKUP.SYS;1
BADBLK.SYS;1 = BADLOG.SYS;1 >> =3D =3D20 BITMAP.SYS;1
CONTIN.SYS;1 CORIMG.SYS;1 = =20 >> INDEXF.SYS;1 =3D
=3D20 SECURITY.SYS;1 SYSMGR.DIR;1 =20 >> VOLSET.SYS;1
=3D20=20 >>=20 >> Total of 11 files. --- snip ---=20 >=20 > What's in
SYSMGR? You need VMB.EXE, it must be contiguous and it must > be
referenced by LBN in the system disk's boot block (see WRITEBOOT).
That would explain it.
Still, there should be more than an .A save set.
I might have the wrong tape.
=20 >=20 >> And then:=20 >>=20 >> sim> b rq1 Loading boot code from
vmb.exe %BOOT-F-Unable to locate = BOOT >> fil HALT instruction, PC:
000004C7 (BLBS 549,4C6)=20 >=20 > Granted, it's been a long long time
since I booted an 11/780 but you = should > be able to use the normal
boot file on the floppy of the LSI-11 = console. I > am puzzled with
your boot command.
It's SIMH. Ooops. Didn't realise I wasn't clear that it was virtual.
OK. Somewhere there was mention of VAX-11/780... I know the real H/W. I
have never bothered with SimH.
Ah. I do think the problem lies with not having a bootblack on dual.
Not really. If you restore the correct saveset (.B), you'll get the bootblock and other stuff setup correctly as a part of the procedure.
Find the right saveset. .A is not it.
Johnny
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
I might have the wrong tape.
Is there some specific reason for V4.6?
Get a news VMS version -- I can make V6.something or V7.something available
for you -- and then, restore the .B save set to your boot device. Then, you
boot from the system disk to continue the install. Back then, VMS was dis-
tributed on tape. I've no idea how you access that from SimH. During the
boot, VMS will prompt you to enter where the distribution media is mounted
and then, it will just do the rest -- just answer to the questions as they
arise.
If I can find the time, I'll get to my storage unit and pull the V4 (orange
wall) tomes with the installation notes for 11/780 just in case.
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On 23 Dec 2012, at 20:48, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 20:44, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" =
<system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:=20 >=20 >> Directory
DUA1:[000000]=20 >>=20 >> 000000.DIR;1 BACKUP.SYS;1
BADBLK.SYS;1 = BADLOG.SYS;1 >> =3D =3D20 BITMAP.SYS;1
CONTIN.SYS;1 CORIMG.SYS;1 = =20 >> INDEXF.SYS;1 =3D
=3D20 SECURITY.SYS;1 SYSMGR.DIR;1 =20 >> VOLSET.SYS;1
=3D20=20 >>=20 >> Total of 11 files. --- snip ---=20 >=20 > What's in
SYSMGR? You need VMB.EXE, it must be contiguous and it must > be
referenced by LBN in the system disk's boot block (see WRITEBOOT).
That would explain it.
Still, there should be more than an .A save set.
I might have the wrong tape.
=20 >=20 >> And then:=20 >>=20 >> sim> b rq1 Loading boot code from
vmb.exe %BOOT-F-Unable to locate = BOOT >> fil HALT instruction, PC:
000004C7 (BLBS 549,4C6)=20 >=20 > Granted, it's been a long long time
since I booted an 11/780 but you = should > be able to use the normal
boot file on the floppy of the LSI-11 = console. I > am puzzled with
your boot command.
It's SIMH. Ooops. Didn't realise I wasn't clear that it was virtual.
OK. Somewhere there was mention of VAX-11/780... I know the real H/W. I
have never bothered with SimH.
Ah. I do think the problem lies with not having a bootblack on dual.
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On 2012-12-23 17:50, Bob Armstrong wrote:
Speaking of Modula-2, I have an incomplete Modula-2 for RSX. Anyone else
have the missing bits and pieces?
Don't know what bits you're looking for, but somewhere I have Modula-2 for
VMS. It's all written in Modula-2, of course.
I suspect the VMS implementation don't help me with the missing bit for the RSX implementation, but thanks anyway.
Check MIM::DU:[MODULA2]README.TXT for the stuff that I've figured out about the compiler, as well as all the other files in that directory.
Johnny
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 20:44, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" =
<system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:=20 >=20 >> Directory
DUA1:[000000]=20 >>=20 >> 000000.DIR;1 BACKUP.SYS;1
BADBLK.SYS;1 = BADLOG.SYS;1 >> =3D =3D20 BITMAP.SYS;1
CONTIN.SYS;1 CORIMG.SYS;1 = =20 >> INDEXF.SYS;1 =3D
=3D20 SECURITY.SYS;1 SYSMGR.DIR;1 =20 >> VOLSET.SYS;1
=3D20=20 >>=20 >> Total of 11 files. --- snip ---=20 >=20 > What's in
SYSMGR? You need VMB.EXE, it must be contiguous and it must > be
referenced by LBN in the system disk's boot block (see WRITEBOOT).
That would explain it.
Still, there should be more than an .A saveset.
=20 >=20 >> And then:=20 >>=20 >> sim> b rq1 Loading boot code from
vmb.exe %BOOT-F-Unable to locate = BOOT >> fil HALT instruction, PC:
000004C7 (BLBS 549,4C6)=20 >=20 > Granted, it's been a long long time
since I booted an 11/780 but you = should > be able to use the normal
boot file on the floppy of the LSI-11 = console. I > am puzzled with
your boot command.
It's SIMH. Ooops. Didn't realise I wasn't clear that it was virtual.
OK. Somewhere there was mention of VAX-11/780... I know the real H/W. I
have never bothered with SimH.
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On 23 Dec 2012, at 20:44, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
Directory DUA1:[000000]
000000.DIR;1 BACKUP.SYS;1 BADBLK.SYS;1 BADLOG.SYS;1
= =20 BITMAP.SYS;1 CONTIN.SYS;1 CORIMG.SYS;1
INDEXF.SYS;1 = =20 SECURITY.SYS;1 SYSMGR.DIR;1
VOLSET.SYS;1 =20
Total of 11 files. --- snip ---
What's in SYSMGR? You need VMB.EXE, it must be contiguous and it must
be referenced by LBN in the system disk's boot block (see WRITEBOOT).
That would explain it.
And then:
sim> b rq1 Loading boot code from vmb.exe %BOOT-F-Unable to locate BOOT
fil HALT instruction, PC: 000004C7 (BLBS 549,4C6)
Granted, it's been a long long time since I booted an 11/780 but you should
be able to use the normal boot file on the floppy of the LSI-11 console. I
am puzzled with your boot command.
It's SIMH. Ooops. Didn't realise I wasn't clear that it was virtual.
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Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
Directory DUA1:[000000]
000000.DIR;1 BACKUP.SYS;1 BADBLK.SYS;1 BADLOG.SYS;1
= =20 BITMAP.SYS;1 CONTIN.SYS;1 CORIMG.SYS;1
INDEXF.SYS;1 = =20 SECURITY.SYS;1 SYSMGR.DIR;1
VOLSET.SYS;1 =20
Total of 11 files. --- snip ---
What's in SYSMGR? You need VMB.EXE, it must be contiguous and it must
be referenced by LBN in the system disk's boot block (see WRITEBOOT).
And then:
sim> b rq1 Loading boot code from vmb.exe %BOOT-F-Unable to locate BOOT
fil HALT instruction, PC: 000004C7 (BLBS 549,4C6)
Granted, it's been a long long time since I booted an 11/780 but you should
be able to use the normal boot file on the floppy of the LSI-11 console. I
am puzzled with your boot command.
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