-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 19:52
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] New node in area 19
On 23 Dec 2012, at 19:51, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
Johnny,
Please add node 19.140 name DWARF to DECnet. It is a SimH
instance on
a Raspberry Pi. It will be running VMS (VAX-11/780).
Which version of VMS?
-Steve
V7.3 at the moment. It will be running multiple versions as time
permits. It is a dual boot. It can boot standalone or as a cluster
member (satellite). When I find my VAX-11/780 documentation I will
choose the drives that were available at the time to be as close as
possible to a "real" system.
-Steve
On 23 Dec 2012, at 19:51, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
Johnny,
Please add node 19.140 name DWARF to DECnet. It is a SimH instance on a
Raspberry Pi. It will be running VMS (VAX-11/780).
Which version of VMS?
-Steve
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:38:08 -0500, you wrote:
I have had no problem doing TOPS-10 MONGENs following that.
http://pastebin.com/LDUWrSEA is what happens
I'm not an expert at all in this things, but I can say that all those FTxxxx
symbols are feature switches which get set in F.MAC by MONGEN. Other multiply
defined symbols seem to be mostly from COMMON.MAC and COMMOD.MAC. Instead,
many of the undefined ones are from APRSER.MAC, i.e. the module that contains
most (all?) of the processor dependent code.
Maybe there is something wrong in your source setup or in your MONGEN answers.
I would try to follow the original Software Installation Guide (SIG), at least
chapter 9, which explains step-by-step what you should do, and also what to
answer to every MONGEN question. The most updated SIG can be found here:
http://pdp-10.trailing-edge.com/tops10v704_docc/01/10,7/docupd/sig.mem.html
Anyway, this is my (working) MONGEN.MIC: http://pastebin.com/z3Biz6rV
And this is the output from a build run: http://pastebin.com/qcMdyMXU
HTH, :)
G.
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:56, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:45, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
-----Original Message----- >> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE >>
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky >> Sent:
Sunday, December 23, 2012 18:36 >> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE >> Subject:
Re: [HECnet] Older VAXVMS Install kits? >> >> >> On 23 Dec 2012, at
18:33, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" >> <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote: >>
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes: >>> >>>> On 12/23/2012
05:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: > As i'm not getting >>>> anywhere with
my TOPS-10 endeavours, I thought i'd > try >> something else: >>>> older
VAXVMS in SIMH's VAX-11/780 simulator. ;) > > 1). >> What would be >>>>
the best/most interesting version to try? 2). Where > would I get >>>>
install media for these older versions? ;) >>>> >>>> I have a bunch of
older VMS distributions. I don't know >> if they're >>>> available
anywhere else or not; I would assume so but am >> not sure. >>>> At
least several 3.x and 4.x distributions, going back to >> 3.0. Let >>>>
me know if they're wanted and I can put them up somewhere. >>>> >>>> I'd
say 4.7 for speed and period-correctness, 5.5 for >> featurefulness.
The last release of VMS to run on an 11/780 was, I believe,
v6.2. >>> >>> V7.3 should run on it. >> >> Really? I seem to recall
reading several places that 6.2/6.3 >> were the last to run on an
-11/780. >> >>> >>> -- >>> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode
Hacker >> VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG >>> >>> Well I speak to machines with
the voice of humanity. >> >> > > What will run and what is supported can
be two entirely different > things!
OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Installation Procedure
Model: VAX-11/780
You are correct. ;)
...and when you've installed it, type:
$ HELP SHOW DEFAULT EXAMPLES :P
$ DEFINE KUDOS WRK:[SCHENKENBERGER.TEMP1],WRK:[SCHENKENBERGER.TEMP2]
I see!
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:45, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
-----Original Message----- >> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE >>
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky >> Sent:
Sunday, December 23, 2012 18:36 >> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE >> Subject:
Re: [HECnet] Older VAXVMS Install kits? >> >> >> On 23 Dec 2012, at
18:33, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" >> <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote: >>
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes: >>> >>>> On 12/23/2012
05:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: > As i'm not getting >>>> anywhere with
my TOPS-10 endeavours, I thought i'd > try >> something else: >>>> older
VAXVMS in SIMH's VAX-11/780 simulator. ;) > > 1). >> What would be >>>>
the best/most interesting version to try? 2). Where > would I get >>>>
install media for these older versions? ;) >>>> >>>> I have a bunch of
older VMS distributions. I don't know >> if they're >>>> available
anywhere else or not; I would assume so but am >> not sure. >>>> At
least several 3.x and 4.x distributions, going back to >> 3.0. Let >>>>
me know if they're wanted and I can put them up somewhere. >>>> >>>> I'd
say 4.7 for speed and period-correctness, 5.5 for >> featurefulness.
The last release of VMS to run on an 11/780 was, I believe,
v6.2. >>> >>> V7.3 should run on it. >> >> Really? I seem to recall
reading several places that 6.2/6.3 >> were the last to run on an
-11/780. >> >>> >>> -- >>> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode
Hacker >> VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG >>> >>> Well I speak to machines with
the voice of humanity. >> >> > > What will run and what is supported can
be two entirely different > things!
OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Installation Procedure
Model: VAX-11/780
You are correct. ;)
...and when you've installed it, type:
$ HELP SHOW DEFAULT EXAMPLES :P
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:45, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
-----Original Message----- >> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE >>
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky >> Sent:
Sunday, December 23, 2012 18:36 >> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE >> Subject:
Re: [HECnet] Older VAXVMS Install kits? >> >> >> On 23 Dec 2012, at
18:33, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" >> <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote: >>
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes: >>> >>>> On 12/23/2012
05:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: > As i'm not getting >>>> anywhere with
my TOPS-10 endeavours, I thought i'd > try >> something else: >>>> older
VAXVMS in SIMH's VAX-11/780 simulator. ;) > > 1). >> What would be >>>>
the best/most interesting version to try? 2). Where > would I get >>>>
install media for these older versions? ;) >>>> >>>> I have a bunch of
older VMS distributions. I don't know >> if they're >>>> available
anywhere else or not; I would assume so but am >> not sure. >>>> At
least several 3.x and 4.x distributions, going back to >> 3.0. Let >>>>
me know if they're wanted and I can put them up somewhere. >>>> >>>> I'd
say 4.7 for speed and period-correctness, 5.5 for >> featurefulness.
The last release of VMS to run on an 11/780 was, I believe,
v6.2. >>> >>> V7.3 should run on it. >> >> Really? I seem to recall
reading several places that 6.2/6.3 >> were the last to run on an
-11/780. >> >>> >>> -- >>> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode
Hacker >> VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG >>> >>> Well I speak to machines with
the voice of humanity. >> >> > > What will run and what is supported can
be two entirely different > things!
OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Installation Procedure
Model: VAX-11/780
You are correct. ;)
Of course I am.>
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 18:47
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] New node - BONZO2 (47.1000)
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:37, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Johnny,
When you get the chance, add this node for me. It's a
WinNT4 Server running Pathworks that I play around with.
I wish you could join systems to domains over DECnet. ;)
Sampsa
PathWorks (at least the later versions) allowed you to manage NT domains
from within a VMS system. They had rather tight integration for many
areas. Accounts, directories, and printers could be shared (and
managed) all from within the PathWorks environment. It was a little
weird when Microsoft's SMS version 1.x was integrated but it worked...
-Steve
Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> writes:
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:33, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" =
<system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes:=20 >=20 >> On 12/23/2012
05:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: > As i'm not getting >> anywhere with my
TOPS-10 endeavours, I thought i'd > try something = else: >> older
VAXVMS in SIMH's VAX-11/780 simulator. ;) > > 1). What would be >> the
best/most interesting version to try? 2). Where > would I get >> install
media for these older versions? ;)=20 >>=20 >> I have a bunch of older
VMS distributions. I don't know if they're >> available anywhere else
or not; I would assume so but am not sure. = At >> least several 3.x
and 4.x distributions, going back to 3.0. Let me = know >> if they're
wanted and I can put them up somewhere.=20 >>=20 >> I'd say 4.7 for
speed and period-correctness, 5.5 for featurefulness.=20=
=20 >> The last release of VMS to run on an 11/780 was, I believe,
v6.2.=20 >=20 > V7.3 should run on it.
Really? I seem to recall reading several places that 6.2/6.3 were the =
last to run on an -11/780.
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:45, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
[mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 18:36
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Older VAXVMS Install kits?
On 23 Dec 2012, at 18:33, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-"
<system at TMESIS.COM> wrote:
Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes:
On 12/23/2012 05:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: > As i'm not getting
anywhere with my TOPS-10 endeavours, I thought i'd > try
something else:
older VAXVMS in SIMH's VAX-11/780 simulator. ;) > > 1).
What would be
the best/most interesting version to try? 2). Where > would I get
install media for these older versions? ;)
I have a bunch of older VMS distributions. I don't know
if they're
available anywhere else or not; I would assume so but am
not sure.
At least several 3.x and 4.x distributions, going back to
3.0. Let
me know if they're wanted and I can put them up somewhere.
I'd say 4.7 for speed and period-correctness, 5.5 for
featurefulness.
The last release of VMS to run on an 11/780 was, I believe, v6.2.
V7.3 should run on it.
Really? I seem to recall reading several places that 6.2/6.3
were the last to run on an -11/780.
--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker
VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
What will run and what is supported can be two entirely different
things!
OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Installation Procedure
Model: VAX-11/780
You are correct. ;)
-Steve
