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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: 26 December 2012 01:35
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Cc: sampsa at mac.com
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Happy Holidays HECnet
On 2012-12-26 02:27, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 26 Dec 2012, at 03:16, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
Actually probably time is more of an issue than money. Thinking of it,
I
prefer a nice place to a cheap place.
(But then again, living in Switzerland, almost any place is a cheap
place in comparison...)
Well I did suggest Beirut, that place rocks...
But that didn't go down well.
Maybe the UK/US idea is the way to go.
Actually, in a way, to be honest, the cool place to go would be Uppsala,
Sweden, where HECnet started, and there is way much cool hardware to
fool around with.
There are PDP-11/70 machines, VAX-8650s, VAX-7000/720, DEC-2060, PDP-
8, PDP-12, as well as plenty of small stuff...
Now *that* is tempting!
We could probably host activities using the University locales, and have
other fun stuff going on as well.
Johnny
On 12/26/2012 02:47 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
61.6, BIGV7K
Vax 7720, 2GB RAM, HSJ50-based CI-connected disk arrays. VMS
v7.3. It will be online sporadically, but pretty much full-time for
now, to help heat the building until we get our natural gas feed
turned on. (no joke!)
7720, That'd be dual processor right?
Yes, a VAX-7000 with two 700-series processors, ~50 VUPS/ea.
Accounts given upon request.
I'd be interested in an account. I've never actually had an account
on a real VAX, it'll be interesting to start with a big one. ;)
Send me a requested username and password in private email. (note that
I'm crashing now and will get to it tomorrow)
...and let me just say that 2GB of RAM is an AWFUL FRIGGIN' LOT on
a VAX! 8-)
I can imagine! What will you do with it all? Run emulators and
calculate pi? ;)
Just hack VMS to heal and purify my soul between last-minute design
revisions and firmware updates on my projects for work.
How much total disk?
~4GB mounted, ~16GB connected, all SCSI, controlled by CI-connected
HSJ50s.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 26 Dec 2012, at 02:36, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
61.6, BIGV7K
Vax 7720, 2GB RAM, HSJ50-based CI-connected disk arrays. VMS v7.3.
It will be online sporadically, but pretty much full-time for now, to
help heat the building until we get our natural gas feed turned on. (no
joke!)
7720, That'd be dual processor right?
Accounts given upon request.
I'd be interested in an account. I've never actually had an account on a real VAX, it'll be interesting to start with a big one. ;)
...and let me just say that 2GB of RAM is an AWFUL FRIGGIN' LOT on a
VAX! 8-)
I can imagine! What will you do with it all? Run emulators and calculate pi? ;)
How much total disk?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
61.6, BIGV7K
Vax 7720, 2GB RAM, HSJ50-based CI-connected disk arrays. VMS v7.3.
It will be online sporadically, but pretty much full-time for now, to
help heat the building until we get our natural gas feed turned on. (no
joke!)
Accounts given upon request.
...and let me just say that 2GB of RAM is an AWFUL FRIGGIN' LOT on a
VAX! 8-)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Hey Johnny,
Can you add:
9.14 (GRAIL)
9.16 (CNR1)
9.17 (CNR2)
9.18 (CNR3)
Oh, and change 9.15 from TSTBD6. to TSTBD1. I messed up there.
Thanks.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff!
http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.
On 12/25/2012 08:45 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I'm fine with providing anything that helps the project. I suggest
striving for fully-automatic operation, though, for minimal
administrative requirements. I know Peter in particular is an extremely
busy guy and may not want the additional headache.
That's OK, participation is totally optional - it just means you might get
left out of the map.
I am happy to admin the map (both automatic collection and the manual stuff)
so the "weird" equipment guys only need to send me their details once - after
that they will be added to the map each time.
GRE tunnels and Cisco routers are by no means "weird", my friend. ;)
Let's see what Brian H says about using snmp. That might be the answer.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On 26 Dec 2012, at 04:33, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2012-12-26 02:34, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
That does sound cool actually, but we should do it late June / early July to get the best weather..
I'm only there late July / early August... :-)
But it might be something to consider, if some people would be interested...
Johnny
CRAYFISH PARTY!!!!
Seriously, HECnet crayfish party.
Sampsa
On 2012-12-26 02:34, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
On 26 Dec 2012, at 03:34, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
Actually, in a way, to be honest, the cool place to go would be Uppsala, Sweden, where HECnet started, and there is way much cool hardware to fool around with.
There are PDP-11/70 machines, VAX-8650s, VAX-7000/720, DEC-2060, PDP-8, PDP-12, as well as plenty of small stuff...
We could probably host activities using the University locales, and have other fun stuff going on as well.
Johnny
That does sound cool actually, but we should do it late June / early July to get the best weather..
I'm only there late July / early August... :-)
But it might be something to consider, if some people would be interested...
Johnny
On 26 Dec 2012, at 03:42, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
I'm fine with providing anything that helps the project. I suggest
striving for fully-automatic operation, though, for minimal
administrative requirements. I know Peter in particular is an extremely
busy guy and may not want the additional headache.
That's OK, participation is totally optional - it just means you might get
left out of the map.
I am happy to admin the map (both automatic collection and the manual stuff)
so the "weird" equipment guys only need to send me their details once - after
that they will be added to the map each time.
sampsa
On 12/25/2012 06:45 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
I did said quick hack from STUPI to GW, here's the new router graph:
http://www.sampsa.com/just-routers.svg
So my suggestion to those with "weird" links that we can't crawl is that they provide us with two things:
- A list of their connections to the rest of HECnet (i.e. the area routers)
- A list of the end nodes that are connected to their area routers
Formats for these will follow, they're basically CSV.
Is this OK, Dave etc with CISCO gear?
I'm fine with providing anything that helps the project. I suggest
striving for fully-automatic operation, though, for minimal
administrative requirements. I know Peter in particular is an extremely
busy guy and may not want the additional headache.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
