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Cisco DECnet info, was Re: [HECnet] HECnet mapping project

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 12/25/2012 06:14 PM, Bob Armstrong wrote: Found the problem, STUPI isn't listing you as a known circuit: I think the actual connection is between their Cisco routers. STUPI has nothing to do with it and doesn't know about it. Bob's right; these are GRE tunnels (Peter is a hard-core Cisco guru), both to Peter and to Brian H. (who is quite sharp with Cisco stuff as well!) So how can we do this...I don't think IOS implements NICE, but I'm sure its DECnet routing table can be pulled out via SNMP. Brian (Hechinger), I can set up a read-only SNMP community and your poller (when it discovers an appropriate router) can walk the tree, maybe? And either Sampsa's code can parse that output, or you can reformat it into a consistent format to hand to Sampsa? What do you think? (snmpwalk is your friend!) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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by sampsa＠mac.com

On 26 Dec 2012, at 03:34, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: Actually, in a way, to be honest, the cool place to go would be Uppsala, Sweden, where HECnet started, and there is way much cool hardware to fool around with. There are PDP-11/70 machines, VAX-8650s, VAX-7000/720, DEC-2060, PDP-8, PDP-12, as well as plenty of small stuff... We could probably host activities using the University locales, and have other fun stuff going on as well. Johnny That does sound cool actually, but we should do it late June / early July to get the best weather.. Sampsa

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Getting a virtual cluster connected

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 12/25/2012 05:50 PM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: On 12/25/2012 02:56 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: >>> Will it be a problem that all of these systems are DECnet-OSI? >> >> Clustering does not depend on DECnet or TCP/IP! > > Really? I thought clustering over ethernet used DECnet. Nope...SCS, which is Systems Communications Services if memory serves. (is that right, Brian?) Completely unrelated to DECnet. Dunno which "Brian" you refer but SCS it is. I initially meant you, but now I recall (half drunk at the moment) that Brian Hechinger knows quite a lot about VMS clustering as well. :) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-12-26 02:27, sampsa at mac.com wrote: On 26 Dec 2012, at 03:16, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: Actually probably time is more of an issue than money. Thinking of it, I prefer a nice place to a cheap place. (But then again, living in Switzerland, almost any place is a cheap place in comparison...) Well I did suggest Beirut, that place rocks... But that didn't go down well. Maybe the UK/US idea is the way to go. Actually, in a way, to be honest, the cool place to go would be Uppsala, Sweden, where HECnet started, and there is way much cool hardware to fool around with. There are PDP-11/70 machines, VAX-8650s, VAX-7000/720, DEC-2060, PDP-8, PDP-12, as well as plenty of small stuff... We could probably host activities using the University locales, and have other fun stuff going on as well. Johnny

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by sampsa＠mac.com

On 26 Dec 2012, at 03:31, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: And I did suggest Switzerland. Nice and neutral. :-) As well as being very central so it's not too far for anyone. (Said half in joke, since I do realize the costs of actually staying here for a couple of days isn't cheap.) Not a fan of CH, way too expensive and kinda dull :) Beirut is too hardcore I guess, maybe one meet in CA and another in UK around the DEC Legacy event? Not that I'm that fond of the UK either, hence my impending departure.. sampsa

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by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-12-26 02:27, sampsa at mac.com wrote: On 26 Dec 2012, at 03:16, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: Actually probably time is more of an issue than money. Thinking of it, I prefer a nice place to a cheap place. (But then again, living in Switzerland, almost any place is a cheap place in comparison...) Well I did suggest Beirut, that place rocks... But that didn't go down well. Maybe the UK/US idea is the way to go. And I did suggest Switzerland. Nice and neutral. :-) As well as being very central so it's not too far for anyone. (Said half in joke, since I do realize the costs of actually staying here for a couple of days isn't cheap.) Johnny

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by sampsa＠mac.com

On 26 Dec 2012, at 03:16, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: Actually probably time is more of an issue than money. Thinking of it, I prefer a nice place to a cheap place. (But then again, living in Switzerland, almost any place is a cheap place in comparison...) Well I did suggest Beirut, that place rocks... But that didn't go down well. Maybe the UK/US idea is the way to go. Sampsa

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HECnet mapping project

by sampsa＠mac.com

On 26 Dec 2012, at 03:23, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: You'll have the same problem with Rob's DECnet router... And possibly other equipment, or nodes that don't want to talk NICE. Johnny Yeah, those guys will just have to send in manual updates. Or write a script to give us the details :) Sampsa

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by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-12-26 02:13, sampsa at mac.com wrote: On 26 Dec 2012, at 03:00, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: Yuck. Seriously, if you depend on manual information, it's going to be broken sooner or later. I'm not at all clear what the problem is, though. I can, from MIM, tell which areas are online. And for each area, you can check which nodes are online in that area. After that, it just becomes a question of figuring out how the bits are connected. The problem is the CISCO gear doesnt talk NCP, so we can't do stuff like SHOW KNOW CIRC (to get routers to walk) or SHOW ADJ NODES (to get end nodes). If the CISCO guys want on the map, it'll have to be manual for now.... You'll have the same problem with Rob's DECnet router... And possibly other equipment, or nodes that don't want to talk NICE. Johnny

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Getting a virtual cluster connected

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-12-26 02:12, Ian McLaughlin wrote: Hmmm, I thought area 42 was mine. What happened? I know my gateway has been down for a while, but hopefully it'll be back up this week. Thanks for spotting that. The DECNET.TXT file obviously had incorrect (very old) information for area 42. Fixing now. Johnny Ian Sent from my iPhone On 2012-12-25, at 4:29 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote: I'll do it :) {RHESUS$} type mim::decnet.txt The hobbyist DECnet project arealist. Area 1 Johnny Billquist Area 2 Robert Armstrong Area 3 Patrick Caulfield Area 4 Mark Wickens Area 5 Rob Jarratt Area 6 Mark Benson Area 7 Jordi Guillaumes i Pons Area 8 Sampsa Laine Area 9 Cory Smelosky Area 10 Jean-Yves Bernier Area 11 Saku Setala Area 12 Tim Sneddon Area 13 Reserved for DECserver management Area 15 James Sharp Area 16 Kari Uusim i Area 18 Ryan Blair Area 19 Steve Davidson Area 20 Joe Ferraro Area 21 Brian Schenkenberger Area 26 Thierry Dussuet Area 27 Mark Berryman Area 28 Erik Olofsen Area 32 Reserved for "special" events - available for short term use only Area 33 Fred Coffey Area 42 Sridhar Ayengar Area 44 Hans Vlems Area 47 Sampsa Laine Area 51 Dan Williams Area 52 Brian Hechinger Area 53 Phil Mendelsohn Area 54 Tore Sinding Bekkedal Area 56 Allison Area 57 G an ling Area 59 Peter L hberg Area 60 Zane Healy Area 61 Dave McGuire Area 62 Oleg Safiullin Area 63 Reserved for hidden area testing On 26 Dec 2012, at 02:28, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 25 Dec 2012, at 19:26, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote: MIM::DU4:DECNET.TXT I need to have a link up first to connect that way. ;) I'll go telnet to mim and grab it from there. -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 7:19 PM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Getting a virtual cluster connected On 25 Dec 2012, at 19:17, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote: As long as areas are available go for one! SG1::'s Multinet Tunnel Address is bridge.declab.net:700. I've forgotten which areas are available. ;) -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 6:53 PM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Getting a virtual cluster connected On 25 Dec 2012, at 18:50, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote: Connect to SG1:: on the East Coast as the primary, LEGATO:: on the West Coast as the secondary. What are the IPs for those? I'll connect a random node on another friend's server while i'm at it (extranet.wilcox-tech.com is the host for it. It's static) That doesn't need it's own area though, can I piggyback off someone else's? ;) -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 2:06 PM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] Getting a virtual cluster connected Hello everyone! I've decided to bring up the random virtual cluster I was running on a friend's server, and I want to get it connected to HECnet. ;) The IP is static so connecting it should be easier, the server is in North Carolina. It's looking like i'll need to go install multinet on one of the cluster members as that'll be easier than bringing up a linux VM to run Johnny''s bridge. ;) What areas are available? I'll go renumber to one of the free areas...once I either remember or reset the SYSTEM password. Thanks. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project. --- Filter service subscribers can train this email as spam or not-spam here: http://my.email-as.net/spamham/cgi-bin/learn.pl?messageid=7F0A6F9A4EF311E2B…

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