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by b4＠gewt.net

On 29 Dec 2012, at 16:58, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 12/29/2012 04:53 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: I know someone that was trying to make an IRC bot in x86 ASM... I'll probably do one in PDP-11 assembler, just to spite you. :-) Hehe. I ported unix `cal' program from OpenBSD sources to RSX, wrote it in MACRO-11, and got an interesting result: OpenBSD's cal.c - 562 lines My CAL.MAC - 490 lines :) That was... unexpected... :-) To be fair, PDP-11 assembler is...well, nice. I wonder how fat it'd be on an ungainly old x86. Modern or older x86? ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.

13 years, 2 months

"Hacking" attempts

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 12/29/2012 04:53 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: I know someone that was trying to make an IRC bot in x86 ASM... I'll probably do one in PDP-11 assembler, just to spite you. :-) Hehe. I ported unix `cal' program from OpenBSD sources to RSX, wrote it in MACRO-11, and got an interesting result: OpenBSD's cal.c - 562 lines My CAL.MAC - 490 lines :) That was... unexpected... :-) To be fair, PDP-11 assembler is...well, nice. I wonder how fat it'd be on an ungainly old x86. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

13 years, 2 months

"Hacking" attempts

by b4＠gewt.net

On 29 Dec 2012, at 16:51, Oleg Safiullin <form at pdp-11.org.ru> wrote: I know someone that was trying to make an IRC bot in x86 ASM... I'll probably do one in PDP-11 assembler, just to spite you. :-) Hehe. I ported unix `cal' program from OpenBSD sources to RSX, wrote it in MACRO-11, and got an interesting result: Have a copy of it laying around? OpenBSD's cal.c - 562 lines My CAL.MAC - 490 lines :) ;) -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.

13 years, 2 months

"Hacking" attempts

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-12-29 22:51, Oleg Safiullin wrote: I know someone that was trying to make an IRC bot in x86 ASM... I'll probably do one in PDP-11 assembler, just to spite you. :-) Hehe. I ported unix `cal' program from OpenBSD sources to RSX, wrote it in MACRO-11, and got an interesting result: OpenBSD's cal.c - 562 lines My CAL.MAC - 490 lines :) That was... unexpected... :-) Johnny

13 years, 2 months

"Hacking" attempts

by form＠pdp-11.org.ru

I know someone that was trying to make an IRC bot in x86 ASM... I'll probably do one in PDP-11 assembler, just to spite you. :-) Hehe. I ported unix `cal' program from OpenBSD sources to RSX, wrote it in MACRO-11, and got an interesting result: OpenBSD's cal.c - 562 lines My CAL.MAC - 490 lines :)

13 years, 2 months

INFO.TXT, was Re: [HECnet] UPDATE: HECNET.HLP file for VMS systems

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-12-29 21:37, Dave McGuire wrote: On 12/29/2012 01:59 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: type nikkel::info.txt %TYPE-W-SEARCHFAIL, error searching for NIKKEL::INFO.TXT; -RMS-E-FND, ACP file or directory lookup failed -SYSTEM-F-INVLOGIN, login information invalid at remote node Won't work until there's a default FAL user and an INFO.TXT... So what's supposed to be in this INFO.TXT file that everyone's been talking about lately? I think I may be too much of a newcomer here to know about it. Where should it be, and what should it contain? Actually, thanks for reminding me. This is something someone should write up a page about. I'll happily put a link to that on the hecnet webpage... (Or host it, if needed.) That's the sort of thing that should definitely be in the help system. Nah. We need something that everyone can access. Not something that exists in the HELP system of a specific machine, that you need to know about, and log in to. (Although, I could make it available both as HELP and a web page from MIM, and you don't even have to log in to access the HELP on an RSX system... :-) ) Johnny

13 years, 2 months

"Hacking" attempts

by b4＠gewt.net

On 29 Dec 2012, at 16:45, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2012-12-29 21:20, Cory Smelosky wrote: On 29 Dec 2012, at 15:17, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com <mailto:jferraro at gmail.com>> wrote: Johnny... you are still too low in the stack... JAVA may as well be the new assembly (though I think its more like the COBOL of future IT, in that we'll spend the next 50 years trying to get rid of it). I don't think I've seen a developer "code" anything lower than Ruby or Python in years... I don't think Sunacle will let Java die. ;) In all fairness, he did say "we'll spend the next 50 years trying to get rid of it". I know someone that was trying to make an IRC bot in x86 ASM... I'll probably do one in PDP-11 assembler, just to spite you. :-) That would be impressive! Johnny On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote: On 2012-12-29 20:55, Peter Lothberg wrote: But it is fun to see people fail. :-) It is definitely fun to watch people try to break in to VMS. ;) On Sol.Stupi.Se <http://sol.stupi.se/> (59.10) they think it understands X.86 binaries.. I'm sure tehey don't even understand the stackpointer moves UP not down on a DEC20/PDP10. You are giving them way too much credit, Peter. I'm sure most of them would not even know what a stack pointer is... The stack is a magic object that keeps information around in your Java virtual machine... Johnny -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.

13 years, 2 months

"Hacking" attempts

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-12-29 21:20, Cory Smelosky wrote: On 29 Dec 2012, at 15:17, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com <mailto:jferraro at gmail.com>> wrote: Johnny... you are still too low in the stack... JAVA may as well be the new assembly (though I think its more like the COBOL of future IT, in that we'll spend the next 50 years trying to get rid of it). I don't think I've seen a developer "code" anything lower than Ruby or Python in years... I don't think Sunacle will let Java die. ;) In all fairness, he did say "we'll spend the next 50 years trying to get rid of it". I know someone that was trying to make an IRC bot in x86 ASM... I'll probably do one in PDP-11 assembler, just to spite you. :-) Johnny On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote: On 2012-12-29 20:55, Peter Lothberg wrote: But it is fun to see people fail. :-) It is definitely fun to watch people try to break in to VMS. ;) On Sol.Stupi.Se <http://sol.stupi.se/> (59.10) they think it understands X.86 binaries.. I'm sure tehey don't even understand the stackpointer moves UP not down on a DEC20/PDP10. You are giving them way too much credit, Peter. I'm sure most of them would not even know what a stack pointer is... The stack is a magic object that keeps information around in your Java virtual machine... Johnny -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.

13 years, 2 months

IP over HF packet, was Re: [HECnet] Area 19

by b4＠gewt.net

On 29 Dec 2012, at 15:58, Saku Set l <setala at gmail.com> wrote: I have one Icom ID-1 (D-Star) sitting idle, it could do 128kbit/s on 1200MHz.. Perfect! Plenty slow to run a WAN VAXcluster! --Saku/OH6PU On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: I could maybe work on it a little bit, but I'm pretty buried too. I think we can leverage (at least somewhat) existing equipment to get a head start on this. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA On Nov 2, 2012, at 9:03 PM, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote: From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Joe Ferraro Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 08:38 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: Re: IP over HF packet, was Re: [HECnet] Area 19 If you guys actually try to do DECnet over radio I'd be interested... Bob WU6V As am I. Joe Who has the time to work on this? I buried in day-to-day work. -Steve -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff! http://gimme-sympathy.org/ My permanently-a-work-in-progress pet project.

13 years, 2 months

IP over HF packet, was Re: [HECnet] Area 19

by setala＠gmail.com

I have one Icom ID-1 (D-Star) sitting idle, it could do 128kbit/s on 1200MHz.. --Saku/OH6PU On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: I could maybe work on it a little bit, but I'm pretty buried too. I think we can leverage (at least somewhat) existing equipment to get a head start on this. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA On Nov 2, 2012, at 9:03 PM, "Steve Davidson" <jeep at scshome.net> wrote: From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Joe Ferraro Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 08:38 To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: Re: IP over HF packet, was Re: [HECnet] Area 19 If you guys actually try to do DECnet over radio I'd be interested... Bob WU6V As am I. Joe Who has the time to work on this? I buried in day-to-day work. -Steve

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